Bunk you are willing to live with?

electrojet

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Prescribed drugs kill 100,000 people a year. Source- JAMA. This statistic is a very conservative estimate that may in fact be much higher. Needless to say; lots of people have died because of the drugs that M.D.'s prescribed them in order to get better and the patients took those medications correctly.

http://www.healthyalterego.com/index.php/2009/01/prescription-drugs-4th-leading-cause-of-death/

As a fourth leading cause of death, perhaps there is some sound reasoning behind being wary of conventional medicine.

Where is the list of people who's bodies and specifically their immune system collapsed due to chemo and radiation treatment and thus they died by traditional medicine?

Where is the list of people who survived stage 4 metastatic cancers utilizing only dietary changes ?

The mind, body and spirit. Integrated system. Disease is also dis - ease. If I get chemo, radiation treatment and that new anti-tumor $2,354 for one tablet and neglect spiritual issues, or have unforgiveness. I might still die... even though I went all out on the conventional treatment.

Peace,

Bryan
 

electrojet

New Member
My comment was in regards to #7 Mick's

Yeah, I can agree with that to some degree. People DO feel better after taking quack cures. Sure it's all mental, but it's still better.

It's double edged sword though, what if they become so convinced that alternative medicine is the answer that they refuse conventional treatment for more serious aliments. Lots of people have died because of this. See:

http://whatstheharm.net/alternativemedicine.html

Alternative or Traditional? Both or Neither or at the same time.

Yes, do take Lipitor to keep that cholesterol in check. We'll need to make sure that your liver is o.k every few months, and oh yeah it does weaken muscles... yes your heart is a muscle but don't worry about that.

A handful of raw almonds or a little red rice yeast. No side effects. Not expensive, additional benefits. Yet considered 'alternative' I suppose.

Odd systems here.

Bryan

I would like to see the list of people who died primarily from the chemo. Cancers sometimes go into remission, they stop growing or tumors shrink and certainly some people who went very aggressively in treatment in fact die as a direct result of conventional medicine.

Bryan
 

electrojet

New Member
Hi happyMonday.

Harboring malice, resentment or unforgiveness is toxic. It's like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.

Happy Friday Monday or Saturday as it may be !

Bryan
 

Cairenn

Senior Member.
And alternative treatment prevented Steve Jobs from getting the treatment that could have saved his life.

If an appeal to a saint or a ritual is all you have to treat a cancer, then you use that, but we have REAL treatments that work more often than they don't.

I lost both of my parents to cancer. I was 12 when my dad had his second go around with it.

Hoping and praying it will go away is not reasonable.
 

JRBids

Senior Member.
Prescribed drugs kill 100,000 people a year. Source- JAMA. This statistic is a very conservative estimate that may in fact be much higher. Needless to say; lots of people have died because of the drugs that M.D.'s prescribed them in order to get better and the patients took those medications correctly.

http://www.healthyalterego.com/index.php/2009/01/prescription-drugs-4th-leading-cause-of-death/

As a fourth leading cause of death, perhaps there is some sound reasoning behind being wary of conventional medicine.

Where is the list of people who's bodies and specifically their immune system collapsed due to chemo and radiation treatment and thus they died by traditional medicine?

Where is the list of people who survived stage 4 metastatic cancers utilizing only dietary changes ?

The mind, body and spirit. Integrated system. Disease is also dis - ease. If I get chemo, radiation treatment and that new anti-tumor $2,354 for one tablet and neglect spiritual issues, or have unforgiveness. I might still die... even though I went all out on the conventional treatment.

Peace,

Bryan

When you have stage 4 cancer you do what you can, and yes you still might die. I'd certainly take a $2,354 pill before I would give myself a natural coffee enema or other woo cure.
 

Soulfly

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I still wish people good luck for things they may be facing in life. Also say bless you even though I don't believe in God or that it actually helps the person I said it to.
 

Cairenn

Senior Member.
I like the concept of the 'Rainbow Bridge', Where my pets wait for me, where homeless pets find love with children that died before they were able to have a pet.

It comforts me when I have lost a pet. In that is has a purpose and a use. It doesn't take money from me or others.

It seems that my 'car guardian' was tired, since I recently had my mini van stolen--of course he was 'charged' to prevent wrecks, not theft.
 

Josh Heuer

Active Member
I've always enjoyed those 'DNA repair' and 'pineal gland activator' videos/'songs' (whatever you would classify them as) on YouTube. They claim to have healing power and all that jazz but really they're only useful for getting into a meditative mindset.
 

DieKnowSoar

New Member
I had a finger that for months was losing all feeling and turning purple. Been in and out of the doctors to no avail and on one trip to urgent care the doctor happened to be Chinese and asked if I was interested in trying acupuncture. Stuck about 5 needles in my hand and wrist and twisted them around and we talked. About 5 min later all feeling was back to my finger and never had problems since. Never tried it for anything again but it did work for that.
 

Whitebeard

Senior Member.
(old thread I know, but still an interesting one...)

My thing is cryptozoologiy. I was gutted when I faced up to the truth that there was almost certainly no Nessie and feel sad that Bigfoot and the Yeti are most probably myths. However I still find myself on the lookout for' mystery cats' when I visit the wilder places of the UK, and hold onto the faintest of hope that somewhere, somehow creatures like Steller's Sea Cow and the Thylacine still hang on against total extinction.
 

Spectrar Ghost

Senior Member.
(old thread I know, but still an interesting one...)

My thing is cryptozoologiy. I was gutted when I faced up to the truth that there was almost certainly no Nessie and feel sad that Bigfoot and the Yeti are most probably myths. However I still find myself on the lookout for' mystery cats' when I visit the wilder places of the UK, and hold onto the faintest of hope that somewhere, somehow creatures like Steller's Sea Cow and the Thylacine still hang on against total extinction.

That and aliens. Ancient Aliens used to hold some charm for me. I could see a lot of the arguments from ignorance and other obvious stuff, but it never occurred to me to check to see if they were willfully misrepresenting the facts to bolster their case. After I found they were, and consistently, I pretty much stopped watching discovery networks.

I still hold hope aliens exist, but I don't expect to meet any anytime soon.
 

Svartbjørn

Senior Member.
That and aliens. Ancient Aliens used to hold some charm for me. I could see a lot of the arguments from ignorance and other obvious stuff, but it never occurred to me to check to see if they were willfully misrepresenting the facts to bolster their case. After I found they were, and consistently, I pretty much stopped watching discovery networks.

I still hold hope aliens exist, but I don't expect to meet any anytime soon.

I wouldnt exactly consider Aliens bunk though tbh.. From a purely evidenciary standpoint, yes.. its bunk because there's no solid data... When you look at the massive size of the universe, all the planets, suns, moons and other satellites, its impossible to think that there's NOT any.. Mathematically speaking, the law of averages agrees. Ive yet to encounter anything in nature that produces ONE of something.. there's almost always more than one. Im gonna use an argument from incredulity here, but to think that there's only ONE form of life in the universe seems a bit silly.

So from a purely objective perspective, yes its bunk.. now we also know what bunk Ill let slide, mainly because it doesnt hurt anyone else, or have an effect on anyone else aside from me.
 
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Whitebeard

Senior Member.
That and aliens. Ancient Aliens used to hold some charm for me. I could see a lot of the arguments from ignorance and other obvious stuff, but it never occurred to me to check to see if they were willfully misrepresenting the facts to bolster their case. After I found they were, and consistently, I pretty much stopped watching discovery networks.

I still hold hope aliens exist, but I don't expect to meet any anytime soon.
yup I'm with, I often look up at the stars and wonder if something somewhere is looking back. Its why I wrote this, and there's some light hearted nutty CT stuff mentioned as well.
 

Spectrar Ghost

Senior Member.
I wouldnt exactly consider Aliens bunk though tbh.. From a purely evidenciary standpoint, yes.. its bunk because there's no solid data... When you look at the massive size of the universe, all the planets, suns, moons and other satellites, its impossible to think that there's NOT any.. Mathematically speaking, the law of averages agrees. Ive yet to encounter anything in nature that produces ONE of something.. there's almost always more than one. Im gonna use an argument from incredulity here, but to think that there's only ONE form of life in the universe seems a bit silly.

So from a purely objective perspective, yes its bunk.. so we also know what bunk Ill let slide, mainly because it doesnt hurt anyone else, or have an effect on anyone else aside from me.

You are correct. I implicitly believe in extraterrestrial life; I just don't believe in aliens. Rather, I can no longer tolerate the crap that is passed off as evidence they are/were here.
 

Efftup

Senior Member.
When I was younger, I used to love ALL this stuff: Cryptozoology, UFOs, Nazi flying saucers, ghosts and all sorts. but as you get older, you do realize just how little real evidence there is for any of this and how a lot of stuff is hearsay or just repeated stuff or taken out of context. I still love a bit now and again but just don't take it seriously.

Even as a teenager though, I used to get annoyed by the occasional UFO program that would promise to answer the question of whether or not we are alone. After watching them basically repeat the same stories I had already read about in Library books. they would finish up with a DEFINITIVE answer of " we don't know" which I always felt was a cop out.

I must admit to attempting to spread bunk too though.

After a friend suggested we start our own country and simultaneously make some music we would call "Duckstep" (we had no idea what this would be but settled on it being Nazi Reggae but never made any) We decided that the moon you know as Europa is really the home of a flying aquatic creature called a Mallard which is the genetic ancestor of ducks on Earth and is called Mallardia. We laid claim to Mallardia, and its outer territories of Eris and Dysnomia.
So there is a Mallardia page on Facebook, with a flag, and various other insignia and personnel, and I wrote a National Anthem too. [Broken External Image]:https://www.facebook.com/1050256995....1448060584./1091851780855628/?type=3&theater The stripes on the flag obviously represent the green of the head, the yellow of the beak and the blue of the little flash on the wing. The ducks are self explanatory. There is a picture of Mallardia itself in the corner above the motto. The story of the motto is that we couldn't afford a Latin scholar, so we went down the local deli and asked our mate Kostas for some wise words. we didn't understand what he shouted at us so he wrote it down for us and we just put it on the flag. We don't actually know what it says. It's all Greek to us.

On the Mallardia page, that reply from the European Space Agency reference a Space Station is GENUINE.

On the page at least, we will maintain that we genuinely believe all this, but privately I will freely admit it's all bollocks.
 

Svartbjørn

Senior Member.
When I was younger, I used to love ALL this stuff: Cryptozoology, UFOs, Nazi flying saucers, ghosts and all sorts. but as you get older, you do realize just how little real evidence there is for any of this and how a lot of stuff is hearsay or just repeated stuff or taken out of context. I still love a bit now and again but just don't take it seriously.

Even as a teenager though, I used to get annoyed by the occasional UFO program that would promise to answer the question of whether or not we are alone. After watching them basically repeat the same stories I had already read about in Library books. they would finish up with a DEFINITIVE answer of " we don't know" which I always felt was a cop out.

I must admit to attempting to spread bunk too though.

After a friend suggested we start our own country and simultaneously make some music we would call "Duckstep" (we had no idea what this would be but settled on it being Nazi Reggae but never made any) We decided that the moon you know as Europa is really the home of a flying aquatic creature called a Mallard which is the genetic ancestor of ducks on Earth and is called Mallardia. We laid claim to Mallardia, and its outer territories of Eris and Dysnomia.
So there is a Mallardia page on Facebook, with a flag, and various other insignia and personnel, and I wrote a National Anthem too. [Broken External Image]:https://www.facebook.com/1050256995....1448060584./1091851780855628/?type=3&theater The stripes on the flag obviously represent the green of the head, the yellow of the beak and the blue of the little flash on the wing. The ducks are self explanatory. There is a picture of Mallardia itself in the corner above the motto. The story of the motto is that we couldn't afford a Latin scholar, so we went down the local deli and asked our mate Kostas for some wise words. we didn't understand what he shouted at us so he wrote it down for us and we just put it on the flag. We don't actually know what it says. It's all Greek to us.

On the Mallardia page, that reply from the European Space Agency reference a Space Station is GENUINE.

On the page at least, we will maintain that we genuinely believe all this, but privately I will freely admit it's all bollocks.

Thats seriously Effftup :p
 

Efftup

Senior Member.
lol i was gonna be a wise a** and say it meant "get out of my deli you gits".. and basically it does!! :)

http://gate2home.com/Greek-Keyboard
Yes we were way ahead of you on that one. We used two different online translators to check it meant what we thought it did. :D

You should also try translating the mottos of the Imperial Mallardian Space Force, Navy, and Army. The Navy one is the best though.
 
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deirdre

Senior Member.
Yes we were way ahead of you on that one. We used two different online translators to check it meant what we thought it did. :D

You should also try translating the mottos of the Imperial Mallardian Space Force, Navy, and Army. The Navy one is the best though.
how 'bout you just tell me? :)
 

jaydeehess

Senior Member.
Bunk I live with?

Ok, I am sure my high school best friend slept with my girlfriend while I was at university. I am sure most of my friends knew about it but decided that telling me was not best for everybody since shortly after I got back to town she broke up with me.
Oh, why is it bunk? Because 40 years later I still have no proof and no one has come clean. :) ;)
 

tadaaa

Senior Member
I'll go along with that Steve

My eldest son was a chorister at Jesus Colledge Choir (Cambridge) for 7 odd years, rising to deputy head chorister

It meant that, as a family, we would occaisonally go to evensong at the chapel on a staturday, especially if he had a solo

And special services around Christmas / Easter

The majesty, the noise - the whole choir complete with organ on "full chat" is amazing

And in that respect I enjoyed it - and the people were all lovely

But in my (very) personal view - bunk
 

Whitebeard

Senior Member.
The majesty, the noise - the whole choir complete with organ on "full chat" is amazing
Gotta admit there is something amazing about religious music, here in Bristol I often nip into the cathedral to sit in on the full choir practices or their lunchtime recitals. Love the welsh male voice choirs as well, spine-tingling stuff.
 

NoParty

Senior Member.
After a recent family death I am happy to bow my head in prayer as if I really believed. Religion can provide comfort.
I once knew a respiratory therapist, who watched critical patients die on most days.

One day she came home, quite down...a very young patient, one or two years old, had just died.

I tried to be comforting...then she just stopped me in my tracks with:
"Well, I guess God just needed another little angel."
I was kind of stunned...didn't know what to say.
I decided that she needed that--and other happy thoughts--to cope with what she was seeing
(doing a job, btw, that I know I would never have the heart to do...so I'm hardly going to be judge-y about how to deal)
so I just said something nice about making dinner for her...
 

Marin B

Active Member
You are correct. I implicitly believe in extraterrestrial life; I just don't believe in aliens. Rather, I can no longer tolerate the crap that is passed off as evidence they are/were here.
I agree there is a ton of crap on this. If you ever listen to the radio program Coast to Coast, you get the impression that UFO sightings is a daily occurrence. However, I am open to the possibility that UFOs from intelligent life have visited just because of someone I know who reported a sighting. He was in the military at the time and it was shortly after WWII. It was a daytime sighting with another person who saw the same thing they were working in a remote location with others but they were the only two who saw it, both were interviewed afterwards by a military officer. This person doesn't like to talk about the incident, so I don't ask.
 

Marin B

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The earlier discussions on this thread about homeopathy reminded me of this story that was recently in the news:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-32117815

 
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