2004 USS Nimitz Tic Tac UFO FLIR footage (FLIR1)

Gaspa

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I took some time to get up to speed on the topic, but forgive me if I bring up something that has been discussed before or make useless repeated comments. I went through the first two pages and the final few, I hope it's fine that I haven't read through every word of this 5-year-old 900+ comment thread.

Not in this case. The SPY-1 radar is phased array, no rotation.

I don't think the 0.78 seconds figure occured three different times. It's just three retellings of the same story.

Some phased array systems also have a sweeping frequency, like in the image below.


This one seems to be able to track a number of objects, as in, it can lock a beam at an object to track it continuously.

Anyway, since the claim is that this 0.78 sec time was figured out from looking at logs on the next day, the data-logging system must have a sampling rate of some sort. Knowing it could be useful.

It would be one thing to have a target detected at around 28k feet for a few seconds and then, the very next log entry, which happens 0.78s after the previous one, have it detected at close to sea level.

Another thing would be to have, say, a 0.01 second period, or 100Hz sample rate of the log, with it showing the target being tracked as it zips down like the graph below.
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Another possibility, which I find to be more likely than the second option, is that the object wasn't actually tracked. The sample period could be some fraction of 0.78 seconds. There was a detection at 28k (or 80k, or 60k, it depends where you're looking or who you're listening to) feet for some time, then nothing for a few samples, and then another detection at close to sea level.

The first and third possibilities are explainable by reflection or weather phenomena, the second one would support the "impossibly fast movement" story. Anything in between is murky.

I don't think these logs are likely to be retrievable by now, or that we should trust anyone's memory about what exactly the data looked like.

Going over the executive report, where it described detection by the AN/SPY-1 scanner, it describes:
According to Senior Chief [redacted], the AAVs [Anomalous Aerial Vehicle, i.e., the UFO] would descend from a very high altitude into the scan volume of the AN/SPY-1 at a high velocity. (...) Senior Chief [redacted] added that based on his experience, (...), the AAV exhibited Ballistic Missile Characteristics in reference to its appearance, velocity, and indications on the radar. Since the radar wass in the mode to handle Air Intercept of conventional aircraft it never obtained an accurate track of the AAVs and was quickly "dropped" by the radar meaning it was eliminated by the computer to reduce the amount of clutter on the radar, as any other false target is handled.
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Highlighted text suggests the nice smooth tracking graph is unlikely, to say the least.
 

Nemon

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Interestingly it has this in it, seems they didnt have much data other than the testimonies
With this, the topic has now probably finally been manoeuvred to a dead end. Even indications that the data were transmitted from the fleet to "the beach" and that data carriers were taken off board, etc., are no longer being pursued. Question mark.
 

markus

Active Member
My understanding is the older F-18C/Ds have green CRT displays and the F-18E/Fs color-capable LCDs (caveats apply; hard to find authoritative stuff on this, plus it may be different for different operators, etc). A little hard to see but here's an example of a Super Hornet:



As far as I know these videos are captured by literal cameras pointed at the instruments and should reflect the actual color seen by the pilots.
 

markus

Active Member
The videos are captured from the video feed to those screens, so not necessarily the same color. It's monochrome video.

Technical details:
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/re...-temp-to-of-the-gimbal-uap.12486/#post-272637
My source was the A1-F18AC-NFM-000 NATOPS document relevant to F/A-18A through D (entirely possible it's different for the Supers);

2.13.8 Cockpit Video Recording System (Aircraft 164945 AND UP and Aircraft 163985 THRU 164912 AFTER AFC 207). The Cockpit Video Recording System (CVRS) consists of three color auto aperture cameras, two electronic units (EUs), and two 8 mm video recorders. One camera records the HUD and the other two record the left and right DDIs in the front cockpit. One video recorder is dedicated to the RDDI while the other is switchable between the HUD and the LDDI. The DDI cameras, Video Sensor Heads (VSHs), are mounted on top of the canopy frame, one on each side, aft of the DDIs. An EU is mounted directly aft of each VSH.

2.13.8.1 DDI Video. Weapon video, provided by television or infrared sensors, and radar video, provided from the radar receiver, is available for display on the DDIs and recording on the CVRS tapes. The weapon and radar video recorded on the tape includes the mission computer system symbology displayed on the DDIs.

With AFC 408, selecting ENABLE on the NUC WPN switch located above the left console next to the canopy manual handle permits raw video from the FLIR to be recorded when the HUD/LDDI switch is in LDDI and the FLIR display is on the LDDI. With the NUC WPN switch in ENABLE, only the LDDI will be recorded even if the mode selector switch is in AUTO.

2.13.8.2 Video Tape Recorders. One video tape recorder accepts video from the HUD color video camera or the LDDI VSH, and the other video tape recorder accepts video from the RDDI VSH. Both recorders accept headset audio and each provides a minimum of 120 minutes recording time on removable video tape cartridges. The headset audio is only available for recording when the KY-58 encryption function is inactive
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A little hard to parse but it looks like both recording modes are supported. The fact that it's monochrome would suggest it's indeed the raw.
 
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