FireOfficer1822
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it would be like setting fire in a battleship and expecting it to self collapse from within .
You mean like the fire in the SS Noronic in 1949 that only took 20 min to turn the steel hull white hot , buckle and sink ?
it would be like setting fire in a battleship and expecting it to self collapse from within .
I believe she had steel decks but was not a battleship or totally connected together in a steel matrix.You mean like the fire in the SS Noronic in 1949 that only took 20 min to turn the steel hull white hot , buckle and sink ?
After about 20 minutes, the metal hull was white hot, and the decks began to buckle and collapse onto each other. After an hour of fighting the blaze, the Noronic was so full of water from fire hoses that it listed severely toward the pier, causing firefighters to retreat. The ship then righted itself, and firefighters returned to their original positions. By the end, more than 1.7 million gallons (6.4 million litres) of water had been poured on the ship from 37 hoses.
The fire was extinguished by 5:00 a.m., and the wreckage was allowed to cool for two hours before the recovery of bodies began. Searchers found a gruesome scene inside the burned-out hull. Firefighters reported finding charred, embracing skeletons in the corridors. Some deceased passengers were found still in their beds. Many skeletons were almost completely incinerated. Glass had melted from every window, and even steel fittings had warped and twisted from the heat.
Every stairwell had been completely destroyed, save for one near the bow.[ex/]
I want to point out these items, the metal hull, Glass had melted from every window, and even steel fittings had warped and twisted from the heat.
Please clarify this. Heat does not weaken steel? The heat just gets passed on with no consequence to itself?..However there is no evidence of fire affecting steel skyscrapers because heat is transferred by steel as its a metal and therefore won't weaken as there was 47 core columns all connected...
What a horrible disaster.
Im not sure if the steel itself failed
The steel deck
It took weeks for workers to remove the decks after the fire. You need to examine the pictures that you posted a little more closely, in fact, a LOT more closely, because what you are looking at are pictures of the ship being wrecked by workers after the fire. They spent a long time removing the decks of the ship before they towed the remainder of it away to Hamilton.You mean like the fire in the SS Noronic in 1949 that only took 20 min to turn the steel hull white hot , buckle and sink ?
Absolutely not. I looked at this and other images earlier today. Do you see wooden life boats?Do you see a collapse now Gerry?
@Mick West WOODEN LIFE BOATS MICKAbsolutely not. I looked at this and other images earlier today. Do you see wooden life boats?
@Mick West WOODEN LIFE BOATS MICK
No I don't I do however see several METAL lifeboats.Absolutely not. I looked at this and other images earlier today. Do you see wooden life boats?
It should be, if you continually ignore the fact that the material is never allowed to get to its critical weakening temperature in such products because it is being continually cooled in air.if I mention surviving woodburner stoves/BBQs/Ovens and saucepans, my post is deleted
Steel cannot be melted in a forge.you will not get hydrocarbon fires in an open atmosphere to melt steel as it does in a forge.
What is risible is that you write this when the evidence is before you.And you will not get office (or ships) furniture to burn hot enough or long enough to overcome a large highrise steel frame structure. Even attempting to compare the two in such a thread is risible.
Yeah, fair point. I agree that these look like steel life boats.I don't think those are wooden lifeboats. Corrugated steel had been used to lifeboats for quite some time before that that looks similar to the lapping used in wooden boats. Here's an example: http://amhistory.si.edu/onthewater/collection/AF_1645(14).html
These are probably the Francis Life Car brand of lifeboat: http://amhistory.si.edu/onthewater/assets/object/full/2009-5587.jpg
I don't think there's much chance they're made of word, since wood does not distort like that under heat.
But however hard you squirm around you will not get hydrocarbon fires in an open atmosphere to melt steel as it does in a forge. And you will not get office (or ships) furniture to burn hot enough or long enough to overcome a large highrise steel frame structure. Even attempting to compare the two in such a thread is risible.