Mediumship — triple blind study

We have a list of the names of the deceased used in the study. I guess the test for this would be to give these names to a number of people and ask them to guess the person's age based on nothing but the name. If there is a strong correlation between the guesses and the ages, this would confirm that the mediums had a clue on the deceased's age before giving the reading.
Yes. Specifically, you would divide them into the same groups of two used in the study, and then ask people from the same cultural background as the "mediums" to guess which one is the older of each pair.

As I concluded above, I find fraud as the most likely cause of what I read in that study. However, it is a little difficult to go into a room of people that are heavily biased for woo and tell them I think the study they reference must be fraudulent. If I say that, then I can hardly tell them they have no evidence. They will tell me I just ignore the evidence.
I would tell them that with what I know about the bias, I personally would not trust the result until it had been independently reproduced by an unbiased research team. That's just how things work in science.
 
If they have this mind-boggling array of information of what is going on, imagine the service they could be us if we had them ring a bell to yes or no questions about what our enemies are doing, or what cards the blackjack dealer is holding.
Yes. That's why the proponents of this have a missionary fervor of "we need to learn more" akin to UFOlogists hoping for "breakthrough technology". It's also why the US military invested in this decades ago, but got duped by a spoon-bender.

The issue is that, although these claims are decades old, we still haven't learned anything about it that comes even close to an understanding how it works; nor have any claims survived independent testing by the James Randi foundation. In decades, nobody has come up with any ideas on how these "preposterous" things work that could be tested. And that is very unusual. It strongly suggests that the phenomenon is not what it is claimed to be.

However, speaking out against wishful thinking is sure to make you unpopular with that crowd, and achieve little.
 
However, speaking out against wishful thinking is sure to make you unpopular with that crowd, and achieve little.
One can hope that "visitors" interested in the subject but not yet committed to it's reality might benefit from hearing the the skeptical arguments and not just the credulous ones. Where there is not a good cure, preventative inoculation with sound thinking and fact-based arguments may be the best strategy to control the spread of infection.
 
Understood, but the study put sitters in pairs. Sitters A and B received the readings for both A and B. The rating system you mention may have tended to give high scores for both A and B, but that should balance out by the methodology. The sitters were told to choose between readings A and B. The rating system may have tended to cause high ratings for both A and B. That doesn't change the result. The problem is, we are told that 65% of the time sitter A chose reading A as better that reading B, supposedly when everyone was blinded.

If the "sitters" are grouped in pairs, are they otherwise isolated from each other? If I'm "sitter Dave", I would provide the name of my late mother, right? Then lets say I'm paired with "sitter John" and John provides the name of his late uncle. Now our "readers" work on the 2 names and come back with what exactly? Specific answers to questions? Or the standard quasi-generic astrology type stuff like "she is with you" and "he is watching over your family"?

Then what? I am presented with a reading based on my mom's name and a reading based on John's uncles name, and visa versa. Did these readers only work with one pairing of sitters? Or did multiple readers provide multiple readings across the group? In fact, did the same reader do my mom's name and John's uncle, or are the readings from different readers? The whole thing is overly convoluted.

And again, there is no control group. All the "sitters" are biased believers that are presented with 6 rankings, 4 of which constitute a positive evidence of communication with the dead. Something they are interested in. They are looking for, and possibly confabulating, any hint that will connect them with the deceased.

It would take only a small bit of something to differentiate between the reading for me, vs the reading for John.
 
If the "sitters" are grouped in pairs, are they otherwise isolated from each other?
Good question. I can envision people in the same room, where person A says "that one sounds like X", and person B then thinks "well then, the other must be person Y".

The entire "pair" thing seems to be an unnecessary complication.
 
Good question. I can envision people in the same room, where person A says "that one sounds like X", and person B then thinks "well then, the other must be person Y".

The entire "pair" thing seems to be an unnecessary complication.

Yes. IF the paired "sitters" are allowed any communication between themselves, the whole thing really becomes useless. It should only take a few hints to glean what the other "sitter" submitted and zero in on one's own reading.
 
100 people were divided into pairs and given readings intended for both people, supposedly with everyone blinded. 65% of the time they choose the "correct" reading. Although the effect is weak, it is hard to argue that, if the methodology is good, then this finding is statistically significant.

But the methodology isn't good, because the selection of subjects is so questionable.
In addition, we don't know if the mediums were known to/ friends of the authors; considering the backgrounds of Liberale and Sinesio, and a lack of any statement to the contrary, this can't be ruled out.
A similar question applies to some of J. Beischel's research, using mediums "certified" by the Windbridge Research Center, Director of Research, Julie Beischel:
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The Center works with a team of Windbridge Certified Research Mediums (WCRMs) who volunteer their time by participating in research and providing suggestions for research directions.
As far as I know, Windbridge has never published research where the null hypothesis stands, which considering wider real-world evidence of mediumship is astonishing, if it reflects their actual findings.
Equally, I'm unaware of WRCMs demonstrating their abilities en bloc outside of Windbridge activities, or Windbridge suggesting this: There are some good university psychology departments in the USA.

Undergraduate psychology "experiments" in a classroom setting often allow the use of fellow psy. students or staff as subjects, as (1) they're available and (2) it's a reciprocal arrangement. It avoids the time and effort needed to recruit naïve subjects, including the production of a participant information sheet, a formal consent process and arranging times to actually conduct the trial.
In some universities in the US, students get credits for participating as subjects in their colleague's trials IIRC.
But these experiments are usually run to teach the students (including the "experimenter") some basic, established feature of psychology or scientific methodology. They're not necessarily expected to produce novel results and are a long way from being anything that would be submitted to a peer-reviewed journal. Some psychology bachelor/ equivalent degrees require the student to conduct at least one more formal experiment in which they have to recruit subjects not known to them; this gives the student experience of producing recruitment and participation materials, and some understanding of the difficulties involved in obtaining and retaining subjects. -In reality, if the student is on a large residential campus, this often isn't as difficult as it is "in the real world".

A scientifically rigorous formal experimental trial would not normally include subjects known to the researchers if this can be avoided; subjects may- consciously or unconsciously- have a bias towards producing results seen as "wanted" by the researcher or by the subject themselves.
This might also feature in some famous psychology experiments using supposedly naïve subjects; Piaget's conservation experiments in child psychology- though definitely demonstrating a real effect- might have had more positive results in some populations due to the subject wanting to provide a "correct" answer that they did not in fact believe.
Zimbardo et al.'s 1971 prison experiment, which took place at a time when the US was drafting young men for the Vietnam war, didn't identify a possible confounding variable: the subjects- male students- might have felt motivated to demonstrate that putting young men in uniform and a position of authority might have societally undesirable results. (As well as the draft, many students will have been aware of the deaths of 4 student protestors shot by National Guardsmen at Kent State University, May 1970).
A possible desire to produce results in a particular direction might be even stronger in subjects who are friends of the researchers, and who are familiar with the researcher's views.

An experimental trial of the type conducted by Patrizio Tressoldi, Laura Liberale, Fernando Sinesio (2022) might reasonably be expected to recruit subjects not known to the authors, and preferably, as pointed out by @NorCal Dave, a control group of subjects who are not known to the authors and who are less likely to hold beliefs in mediumship.
(I was going to write, "This would be feasible using the same number of sitters as used in the 2022 study"- until, on checking, I found it very hard to see how many sitters there were. I can't find a number in the 2022 paper.)

To put it bluntly, recruiting friends/ colleagues, all of whom know at least one of the authors and some of whom might know each other outside of the experiment, raises the question of unconscious- or conscious- collaboration.
This suspicion could have been reduced had the researchers done what professional psychologists usually do: Recruit subjects (in this case sitters) who are unconnected with the researchers. Tressoldi et al. chose not to take this basic step.
It seems likely the claimed mediums were known to the authors prior to the experiment,
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Self-claimant mediums were invited by email...
...and considering two of the three authors have senior roles in the Gruppo di Ricerca Italiano sulla Medianita (GRIM, Italian Research Group on Mediumship).

It is not clear if any measures were taken to rule out the mediums knowing- and being in contact with- each other.
It isn't even clear that the sitters did not know the mediums prior to the experiment- they might have known them from their mutual friends (e.g. the authors) and interests; they could have been in communication with them before, and during, but external to, the experiment, perhaps perfectly innocently.

Generally with published research papers, there's an assumption of veracity on the part of the reader: We assume that the authors are presenting the truth as they see it, and have been honest.
We should always be very careful not to state that someone has deliberately compromised experimental results unless we have very good evidence indeed. There are large numbers of experiments across the sciences which been shown to be flawed and to have produced unreliable results; very, very few are the result of deliberate fraud. Sadly, some are.

With extraordinary claims, the convention is to await replication and confirmatory evidence, although the original claimants are sometimes committed -perhaps understandably- to their findings more than a single experiment might warrant, e.g. Fleischmann and Pons re. their 1989 cold fusion experiment (Wikipedia).
The apparent detection of faster-than-light neutrinos at CERN's OPERA experiment, 2011, is pretty much a textbook example of how to deal with an extraordinary finding responsibly: with transparency, management of expectations, attempts to replicate the findings, a thorough checking of the methodology and equipment used, and ultimately confirmation by others; see Wikipedia 2011 OPERA faster-than-light neutrino anomaly.
Claiming to have objectively real communication with a dead person, where the deceased can use language to deliver information in real time, is an extraordinary claim.

With mediums, there are problems that have to be considered:
(1) The paradigms of much of contemporary mediumship are relatively new, originating with the Fox sisters in the USA, late 1840s, Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_sisters. One of the sisters later revealed the methods they used to hoax audiences. However, the Fox sister's model of mediumship continued.
(2) There is no checkable and reliable evidence, anywhere, ever, of specific knowledge being gained from a deceased person via a medium which was not known to a living person.
(3) There are many deceased people who in their lives were very talented. Songwriters, composers, poets, scientists.
Despite several claims, supposed new works or discoveries from these people, conveyed by mediums, are usually, well, of dubious value and uncharacteristic of the supposed original source.
(4) There are many instances of mediums being shown to be hoaxers, fraudsters, or at best people misguidedly trying to comfort the bereaved by claiming to have communication where it is unlikely to exist. This includes mediums accepted and attested as genuine by their fellow mediums.
Some mediums have been shown to be deliberately deceptive and dishonest over many years. None have proven to be authentic.
(5a) Mediums as described in (4) sometimes use cold reading, many people receiving readings find this convincing. This has been convincingly replicated by non-mediums, including the illusionist Derren Brown.
(5b) Some mediums have shown themselves to be highly competent, and ingenious, at covertly gathering information about their sitter and the sitter's family/ friends.

Given the possibility of prior or extra-experimental communication between all categories of participants in the Tressoldi et al. 2022 experiment- the researchers, mediums and sitters- it must be regarded as methodologically weak, and vulnerable to "reading" findings being obtained via communication between living participants or from existing records. Additionally, the selected sitters might have been more biased to favourable interpretations of readings than the general population, through their friendships with the researchers and their wanting to receive a reading being a selection criterion. The questionable rating system doesn't help.
We know that people who claim to be mediums, but who have obtained their information by "normal" means, exist.
We do not have any reliable, repeatable evidence of any person with an ability to contact the dead in rigorous experimental conditions. It seems unlikely this paper will change that position.

I'm trying to make sense of the data sets; early days and I could be totally wrong, but there might be a possibility that (1) some sitters received multiple readings from different mediums, and/or (2) some of the individual deceased people were nominated by more than one sitter.
If either is correct- again, I'm not at all sure it is at present- and if the mediums were in contact with each other, which the researchers do not appear to have ruled out, this might represent multiple bites at the cherry; knowledge of a prior reading might inform a later one. Identification of specific sitters by mediums is an obstacle, but the "incestuous" nature of the recruitment to this experiment might allow it.

Tressoldi has made a number of startling findings, any one of which might be thought worthy of replication and further investigation:
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Driving with Intuition?
...Tressoldi found statistically significant differences in participants' EEG readings in car crash trials compared to those in no-car crash trials a second before the car crash, providing more potential evidence of an 'anticipation effect'. ...Tressoldi speculates on mechanisms involving quantum mechanics...
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Digital Photography
A paper published in The Journal of Parapsychology in 2022, describes explorations into the possibility of producing images onto photographic sensors by mental intention alone. ...when brightness was removed from the analyses, there was some evidence of a PK effect.
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Remote Viewing
Tressoldi and Debra Lynn Katz carried out a meta-analysis of remote viewing studies conducted between 1974 and 2022.
...they concluded that its experimental protocols appear to be the most efficient in ESP research for experiments and also practical applications ranging from military and intelligence gathering to archaeology and finance.
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Out of Body Experiences
In a study reported in 2020, Tressoldi and coworkers tested the ability of four participants, chosen for their ability to attain an out-of-body state of consciousness via hypnotic induction, to describe five different locations, initially in an ordinary state of consciousness using remote viewing and then in an out-of-body state. According to independent assessment, ordinary state remote viewing gave a hit rate of 55 percent, and performance during an out of body state gave a hit rate of 54 percent
-All quotes, Psi Encyclopaedia, Patrizio Tressoldi https://psi-encyclopedia.spr.ac.uk/articles/patrizio-tressoldi

Despite these utterly astonishing results, Tressoldi doesn't appear to have pursued any of them with further trials.
Abilities to predict car crashes, interfere with digital sensors by thought and reconnoitre distant locations by willpower alone might have some practical use. This is paradigm-shifting stuff, all from the same man.
And apparently not replicated by anyone else, which might be surprising as his (perhaps former) university, Padova (normally rendered "Padua" in English) has a substantial psychology department, list of staff https://dpg.unipd.it/en/department/people
 
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In addition, we don't know if the mediums were known to/ friends of the authors; considering the backgrounds of Liberale and Sinesio, and a lack of any statement to the contrary, this can't be ruled out.
I don't know if they were the 'mediums' used in the study, but there's a list of 'certified mediums' on Tressoldi's website:

http://www.patriziotressoldi.it/cmssimpled/uploads/images/papers/GRIMElencoMediumCertificati.pdf
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"Italian Research group on mediumship (*)

Coordinator: Fernando Sinesio
Laura Liberale, Patrizo Tressoldi (SOC?)

List of mediums who have passed the Evaluation Protocol and subscribed to the Deontological Mediums Code, published at: etc.".

A list with 13 names follows, with E-mail contacts and cell phone numbers too in some cases.

The link to the 'Deontological Code' is broken, but the link to the 'Evaluation Protocol' works and it describes the same contrived procedure used in the 'study', with the same 7-points scale.



(*) 'Medianità' is an unusual Italian word, I never heard it before. It sounds funny.
 
I don't know if they were the 'mediums' used in the study, but there's a list of 'certified mediums' on Tressoldi's website

Ah, good find. The 2022 paper doesn't mention Tressoldi's involvement in the Gruppo di Ricerca Italiano sulla Medianità (GRIM), but his co-authors Liberale and Sinesio are described as an executive member and head of GRIM respectively.

Merle usefully provided a link to a webpage with some of the datasets for the Tressoldi, Sinesio and Liberale 2022 paper here.
The spreadsheet "MediumshipInformationSource" (attached below) has 100 rows, I'm assuming it's one per reading for the 2022 experiment. 28 Mediums are named (and the 2022 paper states 28 mediums participated):

Alfia, Antonella A, Chantal, Cristina B, Cristina P, Debora, Elisabetta, Gloriana, Imma, Letizia, Lila, Liliana, Lucia, Lucia C, Mara, Maria Barbara, Mariella, Maura, Nadia, Nunzia, Rosaria, Selena, Slavy, Sonia, Stefania, Susi, Valentina, Vittoria.

Although we cannot be sure mediums with the same first name are the same person, the Gruppo di Ricerca Italiano sulla Medianità webpage linked to by @Mauro lists 16 mediums, 11 first names are in common with the names above:

Elisabetta (x 2), Letizia, Liliana, Lucia, Mara, Nunzia, Rosaria, Slavy, Stefania, Susi, Vittoria. (There is also a Raffaella Gloriana).
I suspect at least some of these mediums are the same people as the same-named mediums in the 2022 experiment, and so may have had some contact with the authors (as GRIM-approved mediums) prior to that.
It's significant, I think, that the authors chose to use their friends and colleagues as sitters.

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I'm not sure how relevant this next bit is:

There is a similar-ish spreadsheet, "RRDatabase" (attached below) with 64 lines, each listing a medium and a deceased person in columns A and B. If it's a "dress rehearsal" for the 2022 study, it might be problematic: How many times was a similar methodology used before the authors decided to publish their results?

13 Mediums are named,
Elisabetta, Ilaria, Lila, Liliana, Mara, Mariella, Nunzia, Pasqualini, Rosario, Slavy, Stellato, Susy, Tiziana.

Elisabetta, Liliana, Mara, Nunzia, Rosaria, Slavy and Tiziana share names with GRIM mediums; in addition one of the 2 GRIM Elisabettas is Elisabetta Stellato. There is also a Susi on the GRIM list (and in the MediumShipInformation spreadsheet), but no Susy as per this spreadsheet.
 

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I'm trying to make sense of the data sets; early days and I could be totally wrong, but there might be a possibility that (1) some sitters received multiple readings from different mediums, and/or (2) some of the individual deceased people were nominated by more than one sitter.
If either is correct- again, I'm not at all sure it is at present- and if the mediums were in contact with each other, which the researchers do not appear to have ruled out, this might represent multiple bites at the cherry

I thought I should clarify; my above comments were based on looking at the "RRDatabase", file attached in post #89, which has results of 64 readings.
At the time I thought it documented (at least partially) the results of the 2022 Tressoldi, Sinesio and Liberale paper, but I now think that was incorrect; the "MediumshipInformationSource" file (attached, post #89) is the relevant record for the 2022 paper.

My concerns re. the RDDatabase- well, (1) anyway- are not relevant to the 2022 paper we are discussing, apologies for any confusion (including my own!)
 
It isn't even clear that the sitters did not know the mediums prior to the experiment- they might have known them from their mutual friends (e.g. the authors) and interests; they could have been in communication with them before, and during, but external to, the experiment, perhaps perfectly innocently.
That is one possible problem with the study that I didn't think of. If the medium knows his friend will be sitting in the experiment and asking about his Aunt Marie, then that medium might deliberately slip in information pertinent to this Marie when asked to contact a deceased Marie.

We should always be very careful not to state that someone has deliberately compromised experimental results unless we have very good evidence indeed. There are large numbers of experiments across the sciences which been shown to be flawed and to have produced unreliable results; very, very few are the result of deliberate fraud. Sadly, some are.

Very valid point. There are many ways error can slip into an experiment without it being fraud.

With extraordinary claims, the convention is to await replication and confirmatory evidence, although the original claimants are sometimes committed -perhaps understandably- to their findings more than a single experiment might warrant,

I am hearing this more often, and I agree. It is easy for an amateur in a field to "do his own research" and claim evidence on a point based on a single study. Experts in a field consider a wide range of studies, and do not abandon everything they know because of a single unconfirmed study.

With mediums, there are problems that have to be considered:
(1) The paradigms of much of contemporary mediumship are relatively new, originating with the Fox sisters in the USA, late 1840s, Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_sisters. One of the sisters later revealed the methods they used to hoax audiences. However, the Fox sister's model of mediumship continued.
(2) There is no checkable and reliable evidence, anywhere, ever, of specific knowledge being gained from a deceased person via a medium which was not known to a living person.
(3) There are many deceased people who in their lives were very talented. Songwriters, composers, poets, scientists.
Despite several claims, supposed new works or discoveries from these people, conveyed by mediums, are usually, well, of dubious value and uncharacteristic of the supposed original source.
(4) There are many instances of mediums being shown to be hoaxers, fraudsters, or at best people misguidedly trying to comfort the bereaved by claiming to have communication where it is unlikely to exist. This includes mediums accepted and attested as genuine by their fellow mediums.
Some mediums have been shown to be deliberately deceptive and dishonest over many years. None have proven to be authentic.
(5a) Mediums as described in (4) sometimes use cold reading, many people receiving readings find this convincing. This has been convincingly replicated by non-mediums, including the illusionist Derren Brown.
(5b) Some mediums have shown themselves to be highly competent, and ingenious, at covertly gathering information about their sitter and the sitter's family/ friends.

All valid points. If mediums had genuine insight, then why is the evidence so tainted by all of this?

Given the possibility of prior or extra-experimental communication between all categories of participants in the Tressoldi et al. 2022 experiment- the researchers, mediums and sitters- it must be regarded as methodologically weak, and vulnerable to "reading" findings being obtained via communication between living participants or from existing records.

Yes, if sitters and mediums worked together, then they easily could have gotten together and discussed readings and the deceased. Some of this knowledge can bias the results, even if they are not trying to be fraudulent.

Tressoldi has made a number of startling findings, any one of which might be thought worthy of replication and further investigation...Despite these utterly astonishing results, Tressoldi doesn't appear to have pursued any of them with further trials.
Great point. All these studies represent major advances that could have major benefits if they are real. But the researchers seem to realize that these really aren't startling discoveries that are going to transform our world.
 
Can it be repeated by neutral readers? If not then wah wah. Nothing else is relevant. It becomes anecdotal and we all know what the plural is
 
It would take only a small bit of something to differentiate between the reading for me, vs the reading for John.

That is precisely the claim of the study—that there was a small bit of something to differentiate the reading for me vs. the reading for John. But if there was such a "small bit of something" that caused the readings to be distinguishable, how did those little bits get into the readings? That is the central question.

The sitters reportedly did nothing more than request a reading for a deceased person and "provide only his/her first name" to a research assistant, "raB." Then, another research assistant, "raA," acted as a proxy sitter and gave the first name of the deceased—via Skype or WhatsApp—to a medium located remotely. With everyone allegedly blinded, the medium gave a reading based on supposedly no other information.

Based on this, the original sitter—who was given both the reading intended for them and a second reading for a deceased person of the same sex intended for a different sitter—found a "small bit of something," as you describe it, that led them to select the correct reading 65% of the time.

The pairings were designed to make both readings plausible. Each sitter was supposed to find that "bit of something" that resonated personally in their own reading while another reader would find a "bit of something" that resonated with them in the reading intended for them. But again—how did those "small bits of something" get there? That is the question.

One suggestion is that the mediums and sitters may have been drawn from a small community, with many participants knowing each other. Thus, if a medium saw a request for "Teresa," for example, he might already know of one or more Teresas connected to the study and could have included a "small bit of something" about each—hoping to hit the right one.

Readings were requested for three Teresas. We don't know whether these were three different Teresas or three different requests for the same person. If all three were about the same Teresa, and the mediums knew even small tidbits about her, the study would be hopelessly contaminated and worthless.

But if the sitters were asking about three different Teresas, the claim becomes completely implausible. We are told that raA contacted the mediums three different times over the Internet and simply asked for a reading on "Teresa," reportedly with no other information given. And yet, the mediums supposedly provided readings that included "small bits of something" about this Teresa in one case, and "small bits of something" about that Teresa in another. That stretches credulity. It fails the smell test.

If "small bits of something" consistently made their way into the readings, the most likely explanation is that there was something in the procedure that allowed contamination. (Alternatively, the results were fraudulently manipulated.)

As others have pointed out in this thread, the researchers have made no real attempt to further investigate or commercialize this alleged ability, beyond promoting mediums who appear to be using cold readings to mislead vulnerable people. That fact speaks volumes.

If genuine spirit communication were occurring, the potential commercial applications—using reliable methods rather than vague readings—would be enormous. ("Hey spirits, please go check Iran and tell us if they're building nuclear bombs. If yes, ring this bell once. If no, ring it twice.") And yet, no such attempt has been made to refine or apply the process in any meaningful or testable way.
 
One suggestion is that the mediums and sitters may have been drawn from a small community, with many participants knowing each other. Thus, if a medium saw a request for "Teresa," for example, he might already know of one or more Teresas connected to the study and could have included a "small bit of something" about each—hoping to hit the right one.
My theory (based on the older study) was that the design asked for the deceased that were to be paired to be as different as possible, and that included age. Now supposing that a medium was asked to provide readings for Teresa and Shaqira, I'd think that from a general guess of their respective ages, they could slip in age-based differences that would allow the sitters to correctly match "their" reading, even if it was completely made up by the medium. Charitably, we could say that the names evoke different personalities for the medium, that nevertheless reveal enough to be statistically significant.

The identification was still only slightly better than guesswork, even with these lax criteria; if the 65% number is accurate, then only about 30% of the mediums managed to make the contact they claimed they had made. It means that 70% of the (vetted!) mediums had claimed something that the outcome of the experiment did not support.
 
My theory (based on the older study) was that the design asked for the deceased that were to be paired to be as different as possible, and that included age. Now supposing that a medium was asked to provide readings for Teresa and Shaqira, I'd think that from a general guess of their respective ages, they could slip in age-based differences that would allow the sitters to correctly match "their" reading, even if it was completely made up by the medium.

Yes, that is a possibility. The authors claim that the Italian names gave little clue regarding the age. But, as we discussed, the researchers never verified that claim. There could have been subtle clues in the names that helped the mediums. That is a technique that has been used in the past.

By the way, we don't need to guess at the names. The researchers give us the list of names at the link I referenced. Here is the list of the deceased that were called in the study (sorted alphabetically).


Adriana
Albino
Alessandro
Alice
Angelo
Anna Maria
Antonello
Appio
Caterina Rosaria
Clara
Claudia
Consela
Costantino
Davide
Edoardo
Elena
Eleonora
Elsa
Emilia
Emiliana
Emilio
Enrico
Ernesto
Ezio
Fabio
Fabio
Federico
Filomena1
Filomena2
Filomena3
Fiorella
Fiorella2
Fiorella3
Francesca
Francesco
Francesco
Francesco2
Gabriella1
Gabriella2
Gabriella3
Gianluca2
Gianluca3
Gianluca4
Giorgio
Giovanna
Giovanni
Giulia
Giuliana
Giuseppa
Giuseppe
Giuseppina
Greta-Elisa
Guglielma
Guglielma2
Itala
Lara
Lara2
Luca
Luigi
Luigi
Marco
Maria Teresa
Mario
Mario
Martina
Massimo
Michela1
Michela2
Nadia
Olvinia
Paola
Paola2
Paolo
Paolo_b
Paolo_b2
Paolo2
Piera
Piero
Piero
Renato
Renzo
Rolando
Rosa
Santo
Sergio
Silvia
Silvio
Stefania
Stefano
Teresa
Teresa
Teresa2
Teresa3
Valerio
Valerio2
Valerio3
Vinicio
Viola
Virginia
Virginia

The study was done in Italy. I have no idea how much information the mediums were able to gain from these Italian names.
 
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The popularity of names changes over time -- those of us in the US would have little difficulty guessing that Britney might be younger than Mildred, or that Kai might be younger than Theodore. While there is not a strict correlation, with some names remaining popular over decades, there IS some information in at least SOME first names pointing to a general likely age of the person so named.

I don't know anything about trends in Italian names, but it would not be surprising if a similar thing was going on there.
 
I don't know anything about trends in Italian names, but it would not be surprising if a similar thing was going on there.
There are trends in Italy too but not much can be gleaned from just a name. I'd look elsewhere for an explanation of the effect and the experimenters knowing the 'mediums' (and the 'mediums' knowing themselves) looks, at first sight, the more probable to me.
 
There are trends in Italy too but not much can be gleaned from just a name. I'd look elsewhere for an explanation of the effect and the experimenters knowing the 'mediums' (and the 'mediums' knowing themselves) looks, at first sight, the more probable to me.
you may well be right -- still, if a study was being designed to detect psychic powers, leaving potential "hints" in the set up seems sloppy, at best. Using initials or an assigned random number instead of a first name would have been easy, and would have removed on source of potential "non-psychically-derived" information.
 
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...if a study was being designed to detect psychic powers, leaving potenetial "hints" in the set up seems sloppy, at best. Using initials or an assigned random number instead of a first name would have been easy, and would have removed on source of potential "non-psychically-derived" information.

Totally agree (and also with Mauro's point about the mediums and researchers potentially knowing each other, or at least knowing a little about each other. I think it's also possible the mediums, if they knew that the readings were for friends/ relatives of the researchers, might have been able to find some relevant information by non-supernatural means...)

I'm sure there are exceptions for one reason or another, but most psychology experiments use anonymised identifiers.
Sometimes (as in many medical trials) linked anonymised identifiers are used, so that while identities are not revealed in the published research (or, sometimes, to the researchers in terms of what data refers to which subject) a data guardian or suitably authorised person might, in specific pre-agreed circumstances, be able to establish the identity of a subject from their identifier.
This might happen in a double-blind trial of a new medicine if early data, or adverse events in the testing environment, indicate an unforeseen health risk for those taking the medicine under investigation. This might require increased checks, or even treatment, of subjects in the experimental group but not subjects in the control group.
 
you may well be right -- still, if a study was being designed to detect psychic powers, leaving potential "hints" in the set up seems sloppy, at best. Using initials or an assigned random number instead of a first name would have been easy, and would have removed on source of potential "non-psychically-derived" information.
Anonymisation is important but in a "can this medium speak with a specific dead person" study you have no choice but to give the medium a way to identify the targeted dead person, because it's kind of the point of the experiment.

Having only the first name is already a good excuse for the mediums to explain why they where not 100% successful : "This reading doesn't match with your deceased love one? Well I must have spoken with a different Maria, there is a lot them you know. But I definitely spoke with a dead person named Maria"
 
Anonymisation is important but in a "can this medium speak with a specific dead person" study you have no choice but to give the medium a way to identify the targeted dead person, because it's kind of the point of the experiment.

Having only the first name is already a good excuse for the mediums to explain why they where not 100% successful : "This reading doesn't match with your deceased love one? Well I must have spoken with a different Maria, there is a lot them you know. But I definitely spoke with a dead person named Maria"
IF I were really able to speak to the dead, the method I would use would be something like "Is there anyone here who wants to speak to ___?" (full name of sitter, plus relationship if available.) The whole idea of claiming you could "find" a specific dead person with only a first name is ridiculous on the face of it.

Edit to add: I CAN speak to the dead, as we all can ...but I would be delusional if I expected that they could speak to me! ;)
 
Anonymisation is important but in a "can this medium speak with a specific dead person" study you have no choice but to give the medium a way to identify the targeted dead person, because it's kind of the point of the experiment.

OK, but there were 4 calls for a Teresa (but apparently three Teresas, since two requests were apparently for the same Teresa).

Now we are told that a medium got the first name from a proxy sitter--an experimenter--who got the first name from a second experimenter who got the full information from the actual sitter. With nothing more than that, we are told that, in each session, the medium somehow was able to work back through that chain to contact the "correct" Teresa most of the time. How can it be that one time when asked to contact Teresa, he contacts the one that had been requested earlier by sitter A, and the next time he was asked to contact Teresa, he contacted the one that had been requested by sitter B? The entire claim is so preposterous, that I find it more likely that something was very wrong with the experimental procedure, such as the mediums knowing beforehand some of the sitters and the deceased being called. When asked for a reading for "Teresa" the mediums could have thrown in hints to all the Teresas their casual conversations indicated might be called. It wasn't foolproof, but if they had enough of contamination of the process, they might hit a 65% success rate instead of 50-50.
 
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