The Parallels between Conspiracy Theories and Action/Sci-Fi movies

AluminumTheory

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Alex Jones makes alot of movie references during his show always comparing the news that he covers to "Terminator, Blade Runner, Star Wars, and saying that "this is just like a movie". Not to mention that he even uses the imperial death march as his intro music.
And then just take a look at some infowars videos, and how so many of them have that same action/sci fi theme going on with the graphics and music. This might be a stretch but sometimes I get the feeling that he's trying to make people feel like they're in a movie.

Just think about the recurring themes in alot of action/sci-fi movies; like taking place in a dystopian future just as Alex is always predicting an apocalypse. Or how alot of them center around a character who is privy to some sort of knowledge or power while everyone else is in denial, like Sarah Connor knowing about Skynet, or Luke Skywalker and the force.

This also seems to resonate with his audience in a way, if you have ever watched some of the YouTube Channels of his followers, you'll see what I mean.

I wonder if this is just Alex Jones' way of exploiting the his follower's inability to distinguish fantasy from reality, thus making them feel as if they're privy to some sort of arcane knowledge while the rest of the world is in denal of the dystopian future that lies ahead.
 

JRBids

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Alex Jones makes alot of movie references during his show always comparing the news that he covers to "Terminator, Blade Runner, Star Wars, and saying that "this is just like a movie". Not to mention that he even uses the imperial death march as his intro music.
And then just take a look at some infowars videos, and how so many of them have that same action/sci fi theme going on with the graphics and music. This might be a stretch but sometimes I get the feeling that he's trying to make people feel like they're in a movie.

Absolutely. They all think everything is a fake: the news, attacks, wars. . . everything is "staged". All of the "sheep" are still in the "matrix", and they constantly talk about the red pill and the blue pill.
 

Titus Dafoe

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Sometimes i just feel like i want to drive over them all in a steamroller. I join their groups on Facebook and get kicked out shortly after for politely questioning why they believe this crazy stuff. I am called a troll for not believing in what they do. I invite my debunking friends as soon as i'm in. When i get kicked out, they move in then.

Here's the latest one i have joined and still in there. For now.

There they go again

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Pete Tar

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I wonder if this is just Alex Jones' way of exploiting the his follower's inability to distinguish fantasy from reality, thus making them feel as if they're privy to some sort of arcane knowledge while the rest of the world is in denal of the dystopian future that lies ahead.

It could be the equivalent of a vast LARP session, with people willingly colluding to get that feeling of thrill and danger that they may be lacking otherwise. RPG's can be addictive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_action_role-playing_game
 

JonN

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Not sure if this is the correct thread to post this, but since Alex Jones was brought up. Have you heard his latest government Rant about the mothers Day shooting?
 

Titus Dafoe

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Why aren't these people in power. They've sussed it out before it has even finished. Alex should be even be cast as a detective on a tv cop show.
 

Oxymoron

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Not sure if this is the correct thread to post this, but since Alex Jones was brought up. Have you heard his latest government Rant about the mothers Day shooting?

Given the history of Government wrongdoings, I can't see anything wrong in examining whether Government Agencies may be involved.

Action-Psy-Fi movies and other media most certainly have impacted on real life. Even old movies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting

Gaslighting is a form of mental abuse in which false information is presented with the intent of making a victim doubt his or her own memory, perception and sanity.[1] Instances may range simply from the denial by an abuser that previous abusive incidents ever occurred, up to the staging of bizarre events by the abuser with the intention of disorienting the victim.

The term "gaslighting" comes from the play Gas Light and its film adaptations. The term is now also used in clinical and research literature.[2][3]

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There is often a fine line between fiction and real life. In order to engage people a good story needs to be able to relate to real life, even if it is set in a surreal setting. Most Psy- Fi writers are at the cutting edge of science and often their predictions are more accurate than those who 'set out to predict'. I recall a TV programme called 'Tomorrow's World', which made many predictions, hardly any of which came true.

But many Sci-Fi stories have come true in very many regards, like many of H.G Wells and George Orwell's novels. Many people would argue that we are very far down the road of Huxley's 'Brave New World'.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/brave_new_world_is_here_jkFhmP2qt4e5NzEuFiKgSI
In many ways the book, which was published 80 years ago this winter, has become sci-non-fi. It is still developing, taking on additional richness according to the times in which we read it.

The book isn’t nearly as political or as outspokenly dire as “1984,” so much so that it’s easy to picture a young reader saying, “What is supposed to be so bad about all this?”

Huxley also foresaw a disturbing partnership between the state and capitalism but didn’t anticipate how little need for government collusion sophisticated marketers would need to reorder society. In “Brave New World,” the state has suppressed all simple sports because they don’t require lots of expensive equipment to keep the economy humming. Instead, it relentlessly hypes complicated tech-y activities such as “electromagnetic golf.” A couple of generations ago, kids might have bought one baseball glove and one bat that would last for years. Today they instead spend hundreds of dollars on Xbox 360s and games that quickly become boring and demand to be replaced with upgraded versions.
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Cairenn

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While computer games are popular, that doesn't mean that kids are not still playing organized sports.

Thirty-five million kids in the US playing organized sports in the average year. It doesn't seem like the 'bat and ball' is dead yet. I am seeing a larger demand for sports fields, locally. Interest in baseball may be dropping some, but the interest in soccer is increasing. Soccer is the sport that needs the LEAST equipment to play.



http://www.statisticbrain.com/youth-sports-statistics/
 

Grieves

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Film has been a medium through which the masses are informed/manipulated for almost as long as it's been a medium. Much of the earliest films, often very brilliant in their nature, were propaganda pieces. Much of the films out of the Soviet Union, most all propaganda pieces in some form or another, were amazing for their times. Metropolis, one of the first real 'sci-fi' films, had strong religious themes addressing the moral dilemma of the creation of false idols in the entertainment industry. Film has since become the unquestionable mainstay of western culture. I'd hazard to guess most North Americans have more distinct memories of the movies they saw growing up then they do of the games they played or the conversations they had as children, if only because films are memories one can directly revisit, simply by watching the film again. Governments are entirely aware of this, and use it unabashedly. That's why every film you've ever seen that's particularly critical of American military exploits has had absolutely no funding or support from the American Military, but every film you've ever seen that promotes American military exploits and puts a good face on the Military has had high levels of backing and support from American military interests, from Patton to Top Gun to that atrocious piece of garbage Pearl Harbor, and onward... even to Michael Bay's shameful wastes of money/time/talent that are the Transformer movies. A laughable example of this, which clearly makes the boys toys/action movies/military industrial complex link, is 'Battleship', apparently based on the board game, apparently made by Mattel, and yet which is clearly, from start to finish, a vapid promotional ad for the Navy.
As Oxy said, fiction often mirrors reality, and sometimes reality adversely mirrors fiction, such as when a Fox X-files spin-off portrayed events eerily similar to the events of 9/11 in a show about a troop of bumbling but high-powered conspiracy theorists rooting out the plots of an insidious rogue faction within the Government. 'Red pill/blue pill' is just a 'useful' reference of the age for expressing a choice between knowledge and ignorance. It's no more or less substantial than using phrases like 'the sword of Damocles' or 'a rose by any other name'. Sci-fi films are rich source for this sort of material, as they often tackle issues other kinds of film can't begin too. Star Wars isn't a great example of this, 2001 Space Odyssey is an excellent one.... the first Matrix film hovers somewhere in between.
To suggest the evidence of film manipulating the opinions or influencing the statements of CTers as an example of delusional thinking implies you believe yourself immune to the suggestive nature of films. Reexamine this belief, if you hold it. Even if you live your life in avoidance of film, chances are they've had a far greater influence on your life than you'd imagine. That influence isn't necessarily a bad thing.


But many Sci-Fi stories have come true in very many regards, like many of H.G Wells and George Orwell's novels. Many people would argue that we are very far down the road of Huxley's 'Brave New World'.
When I was about 14 or 15 I read 1984 and thought it was silly/dull, thinking the 'Big Brother' was far too overbearing and openly evil an oppressive force to be remotely believable to me. I read Brave New World shortly after, and it totally knocked my socks off. Huxley, so far as I'm concerned, is something of a modern prophet.
 
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