deirdre
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From the link above:Bellingcat have just published a report with apparent video footage (linked to Telegram from the Bellingcat site) of a Tomahawk cruise missile strike in Minab.
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/202...-missile-strike-next-to-girls-school-in-iran/External Quote:The US is the only participant in the war that is known to have Tomahawk missiles.
Interesting because the building labeled "clinic" in the NPR report appears only to have a large entry hole in the roof but remains otherwise intact. It is visually similar to the building at upper right just below the school suggesting that both were heavily constructed to withstand blast damage, i.e. bunkers.External Quote:Planet Labs satellite imagery shows that only two structures within this red cone were damaged, including a clinic. The other structure appears to be an earth-covered magazine or bunker.
but didnt "they" say the school used to be a bunker too? not that having "just a hole" would have helped save any lives, i assume tomahawks blow up on impact, yes?in the NPR report appears only to have a large entry hole in the roof
My first reaction to the video was "where's the explosion? is this some kind of bunker bomb?". But I don't know enough about all that to give an educated opinion.Interesting because the building labeled "clinic" in the NPR report appears only to have a large entry hole in the roof but remains otherwise intact. It is visually similar to the building at upper right just below the school suggesting that both were heavily constructed to withstand blast damage, i.e. bunkers.
Most likely explanation is your bias and TDS.So what would be the most likely explanation for Trump sounding like someone who had not spent 1 minute being briefed by our excellent military leaders
We don't know what distance the video was taken from so the sound might not have reached the user's location before the video cuts off.My first reaction to the video was "where's the explosion? is this some kind of bunker bomb?". But I don't know enough about all that to give an educated opinion.
but didnt "they" say the school used to be a bunker too? not that having "just a hole" would have helped save any lives, i assume tomahawks blow up on impact, yes?
huh i didnt even notice that. yea usually tomahawk missiles there's a big fireball. i kinda thought that about the buildigns with the smallish round holes too.. i mean that would have to be a seriously strong building to keep the explosion all inside the building. i guess its possible.My first reaction to the video was "where's the explosion? is this some kind of bunker bomb?". But I don't know enough about all that to give an educated opinion.
the school does look flat from what remains.. the others arent particularly pointy either (compared to roofs that get snow) but i do see an indication of a slight rain grade slope.the school appears to me to have a wider and flatter roof than either of the two buildings
dude we have had other threads analyzing disaster stuff... what you are listing are not "in-depth" investigations. Even Bellingcats article is short as hell when he usually writes pages of analysis.the in-depth investigations by PBS, CBS, New York Times, Al Jezeera, Washington Post, Bellingcat, etc., etc., etc.?
The most likely explanation is that either he doesn't want to hear about it or he doesn't want to be asked about it. The next reason is that none of them want to be the bearer of bad tidings to a man whose response may well be to "shoot the messenger", but although that may be true of some sources (*ahem* Hegseth) it's improbable that it's true of all you name.So what would be the most likely explanation for Trump sounding like someone who had not spent 1 minute
(a week [!] after the tragedy) being briefed by our excellent military leaders, or
reviewing the in-depth investigations by PBS, CBS, New York Times, Al Jezeera, Washington Post, Bellingcat, etc., etc., etc.?
External Quote:The no-strike list (NSL) is not a target list, though it is a critical part of the joint targeting process. The NSL is a list of objects or entities characterized as protected from the effects of military operations under international law and/or rules of engagement.
External Quote:L No-strike entities are protected from the effects of military operations under international law and/or the ROE. Attacking these may violate the laws of war (e.g., cultural and religious sites, embassies belonging to noncombatant countries, hospitals, schools) or interfere with friendly relations with other nations, indigenous populations, or governments. NSLs are not target lists, since the entities on the NSLs are not targets. NSLs are continuously updated with the latest information from the operational environment. For more information on no-strike entities and NSLs, see CJCSI 3160.01, No Strike and the Collateral Damage Estimation Methodology.
My first reaction to the video was "where's the explosion? is this some kind of bunker bomb?". But I don't know enough about all that to give an educated opinion.
Washington Post, "Unexploded missiles, witnesses undercut Trump account of Nigeria strike", 10 January 2026External Quote:Of the 16 U.S. Tomahawk missiles fired at militants in Nigeria, at least four appeared not to explode, according to officials and imagery reviewed by The Post.
Well, I sure can not disagree with that.The most likely explanation is that either he doesn't want to hear about it or he doesn't want to be asked about it. The next reason is that none of them want to be the bearer of bad tidings to a man whose response may well be to "shoot the messenger", but although that may be true of some sources (*ahem* Hegseth) it's improbable that it's true of all you name.
The Aljazerra article linked here gives a nice time line of the changes in this facility. The school originally being part of the military facility and later being walled off and repurposed as a school.huh i didnt even notice that. yea usually tomahawk missiles there's a big fireball. i kinda thought that about the buildigns with the smallish round holes too.. i mean that would have to be a seriously strong building to keep the explosion all inside the building. i guess its possible.
or maybe we used older model tomahawks without so much power, or some quds we confiscated from iraq?
the school does look flat from what remains.. the others arent particularly pointy either (compared to roofs that get snow) but i do see an indication of a slight rain grade slope.
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add: the al jezeera article photo when it was still part of the military base has better graphics and it was a much different roof then the other buildigns back then
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026...s-school-strike-as-israel-us-deny-involvement
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That might also explain why the base was struck in two phases. Buildings thought to house some higher priority targets were possibly struck early.The Aljazerra article linked here gives a nice time line of the changes in this facility. The school originally being part of the military facility and later being walled off and repurposed as a school.
With respect to the weapons being used I would not expect every sign of damage being the result of a Tomahawk hit. They are expensive, and overkill for some targets. The buildings with a nice hole in the roof in the dead center of the building were possibly hit with GPS-guided gravity bombs. Internal damage to the buildings caused by bomb detonating inside the building could render it effectively destroyed. Remember there are a lot of targets being hit, using the smaller and cheaper bombs available instead of a Tomahawk allows you to reserve them for more important and hardened targets. I would not expect every building/target in a facility to be attacked with the same particular weapon.