NorCal Dave
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Saw this today, I'm not sure if it would go here or under its own thread. I know some people still hold that the "GIMBAL" video is unusual, even if Mick and others have shown the object is not exhibiting incredible flight characteristics, based largely on Ryan Grave's description of the event. He has written an OpEd that appeared on the The Hill and references the UAP report. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-the-truth-to-the-american-people/ar-AA1780fA
Interesting, is his claim that, besides GIMBAL, UAPs are common, and he and others have seen lots of them (bold by me):
The Trintiy Incident is a supposed UAP crash that happened in New Mexico in 1945. Vallee's self-published book about it relies almost entirely on the witness testimony of a few 85+ year old guys trying to remember what they saw some 70+ years ago, along with some bits of junk that Vallee believes is from the crashed UAP. He's still awaiting analysis of said junk as far as I know.
Jason Colavito has a good review of the book with this basic summary:
I know a lot of people put a lot of trust in what Graves says and I'm not trying to disparage him in any way, but the Trinty Incident?
Interesting, is his claim that, besides GIMBAL, UAPs are common, and he and others have seen lots of them (bold by me):
External Quote:As a former U.S. Navy F/A-18 fighter pilot who witnessed unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP) on a regular basis, let me be clear.
External Quote:Objects demonstrating extreme capabilities routinely fly over our military facilities and training ranges.
He then offers his assessment of the UAP report (bold by me):External Quote:There were 50 or 60 people who flew with me in 2014-2015 and could tell you they saw UAP every day.
And the congressional briefing from May:External Quote:The Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) last week published its second ever report on UAP activity. While the unclassified version is brief, its findings are sobering. Over the past year, the government has collected hundreds of new reports of enigmatic objects from military pilots and sensor systems that cannot be identified and "represent a hazard to flight safety." The report also preserves last year's review of the 26-year reporting period that some UAP may represent advanced technology, noting "unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities."
Part of the OpEd that had me scratching my head was this line (bold by me):External Quote:Last May, the House Intelligence Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation Subcommittee held the first UAP hearing in over 50 years. Intelligence officials testified that there were more than 400 reports of UAP, often tracked simultaneously by trained observers and multiple sensor systems, demonstrating technology that our military does not understand. Congress was briefed that incidents exist where there is sufficient data from pilots and sensors, but the case defies conventional explanation.
Is Graves really touting The Trinity Incident? As I noted back in post #16, Jaques Vallee claims that DC friends of his were involved in getting the dates changed because of his compelling book on Trinity:External Quote:As a result, the 2023 NDAA requires an audit of all government involvement in UAP since 1945, (which coincides with the Trinity incident).
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...1945-crash-mysterious-avocado-shaped-UFO.htmlExternal Quote:'I was not involved in the drafting of the legislation, but several of my DC friends were, and they got the date of the investigation pushed back to 1945,' Vallée told DailyMail.com.
'Several of the Congressmen involved have the book that Paola Harris and I wrote about our research at (the alleged crash site called) Trinity.'
The Trintiy Incident is a supposed UAP crash that happened in New Mexico in 1945. Vallee's self-published book about it relies almost entirely on the witness testimony of a few 85+ year old guys trying to remember what they saw some 70+ years ago, along with some bits of junk that Vallee believes is from the crashed UAP. He's still awaiting analysis of said junk as far as I know.
Jason Colavito has a good review of the book with this basic summary:
https://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/...claims-evidence-for-1945-new-mexico-ufo-crashExternal Quote:The San Antonio crash story is rather unbelievable, even by UFO standards. According to the most common version of the story, Jose Padilla and Reme Baca, then aged 9 and 7, witnessed a nearly thirty-foot-long spacecraft crash into the desert. They ran to the crash site and saw two little men emerge and begin running about in a panic. One of the boys took a piece of debris from the crash site. Then, the U.S. Army arrived, built a road out to the crash site, and retrieved the spaceship. The boys never knew what became of the little men from inside the ship.
I know a lot of people put a lot of trust in what Graves says and I'm not trying to disparage him in any way, but the Trinty Incident?
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