Peter
Active Member
Well I guess the claim is in the title. Here's a video in which the 2 guys discuss their claims, along with some data and statistics in this video. My suspicion is that the statistics have been manipulated to lead the viewer to the wrong conclusion. They state that they assembled the data and produced a diagram to make things more visual.. I think there's something fishy going on here.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du2wm5nhTXY&t=88s&ab_channel=DarkHorsePodcastClips
Of course in the mind of our conspiracy minded friends, the fact that mr Malone came up with the concept of RNA transfection is reason enough to believe anything he has to say on the matter. Here's the paper from 1989:
https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/86/16/6077.full.pdf
And here's what's referred to as Steve Kirsch's 'Paper' in the youtube link of the discussion above:
https://trialsitenews.com/should-you-get-vaccinated/
It's got a whole litany of claims, so if anyone is a debunking mood, this could occupy your entire day.
The problem is that these guys do have actual backgrounds that would seem to lend them some credibility (but their recent claims don't, as far as I can see). The subject matter is also fairly complex to the untrained reader (such as myself), so it's a bit hard to make sense of it all without taking a really deep dive into the rabbit hole.
Anyway their main claim in the video is that spike protein is cytotoxic. Now I'm not sure if the spike protein generated through vaccination and that of the virus are the same. I think that there lies the key to debunking this claim. I'm looking around to see what I can find on this, and if anyone feels like jumping in to clarify things, that would be awesome.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du2wm5nhTXY&t=88s&ab_channel=DarkHorsePodcastClips
Of course in the mind of our conspiracy minded friends, the fact that mr Malone came up with the concept of RNA transfection is reason enough to believe anything he has to say on the matter. Here's the paper from 1989:
https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/86/16/6077.full.pdf
And here's what's referred to as Steve Kirsch's 'Paper' in the youtube link of the discussion above:
https://trialsitenews.com/should-you-get-vaccinated/
It's got a whole litany of claims, so if anyone is a debunking mood, this could occupy your entire day.
The problem is that these guys do have actual backgrounds that would seem to lend them some credibility (but their recent claims don't, as far as I can see). The subject matter is also fairly complex to the untrained reader (such as myself), so it's a bit hard to make sense of it all without taking a really deep dive into the rabbit hole.
Anyway their main claim in the video is that spike protein is cytotoxic. Now I'm not sure if the spike protein generated through vaccination and that of the virus are the same. I think that there lies the key to debunking this claim. I'm looking around to see what I can find on this, and if anyone feels like jumping in to clarify things, that would be awesome.
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