Origin of the claim in UFO circles that in 2027 something really significant will happen, like alien-related

[Cogg84]

Does anyone know why "UFO/UAP" people talk about the year 2027 and does anyone know the significance of that date? I believe Corbell and others have mentioned that date.

 

[john.phil]

Does anyone know why "UFO/UAP" people talk about the year 2027 and does anyone know the significance of that date? I believe Corbell and others have mentioned that date.

There was an episode on VETTED yesterday about it. Right at the beginning of the video there is a summary, then Patrick presents the evidence against Elizondo and the possible origins of the date.

It seems in part related to SPACECOM objective of maximising combat readiness by 2027, where the SPACOM commander said:

(01:26:16 - 01:29:14) "So, I like to say our event horizon goes out to about 2027, but we must be thinking beyond 2027 as well, to help shape military space power for the future fight"

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Cjqtru_Vc&t=5176s

 

[Cogg84]

There was an episode on VETTED today about it. Right at the beginning of the video there is a summary, then Patrick presents the evidence against Elizondo and the possible origins of the date.

It seems in part related to SPACECOM objective of maximising combat readiness by 2027, where the SPACOM commander said:

(01:26:16 - 01:29:14) "So, I like to say our event horizon goes out to about 2027, but we must be thinking beyond 2027 as well, to help shape military space power for the future fight"

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Cjqtru_Vc&t=5176s

Thank you for that. I've seen videos of Corbell claiming that an "alien" craft was heading our way by 2027 and he said that would be a lie the government would tell us. And I believe I've heard other ufo/uap personalities talk about that date for a disclosure or "alien" event.

 

[john.phil]

Thank you for that. I've seen videos of Corbell claiming that an "alien" craft was heading our way by 2027 and he said that would be a lie the government would tell us. And I believe I've heard other ufo/uap personalities talk about that date for a disclosure or "alien" event.

As per Patrick's video, the 2027 rumour is evolving into various forms:

• A planet is heading this way (Nibiru-like myth);
• A planet-sized object is heading this way (because a planet would disrupt the other planets, but the object would be hollow)
• A massive spacecraft is heading this way (because a planet-sized object would be spotted early on);
• Space Force is preparing for something big (actually it's SPACECOM that needs to achieve a milestone by 2027 because their field is evolving fast);
• Disclosure will happen soon (because the population needs to prepare for the imminent invasion - Patrick thinks this could be the reason for Elizondo's book title);
• The 2027 event is a lie (because the government needs a false flag to take away people's freedom; or it's a psyop to discredit UFO influencers).

 

[deirdre]

Corbell claiming that an "alien" craft was heading our way by 2027 and he said that would be a lie the government would tell us.

i'm thinking all the ufo guys and any too-into-it the twitter debunker people need to rent a cabin on a lake and go fishing for 3-6 months with no wi fi service and....decompress a bit... starts at 5:15

Source: https://youtu.be/3Oh_D6Mp6UU?t=316


someone on reddit says this guy Ramirez started it all?

Article:

According to former CIA agent John Ramirez, there's a reason for that.

After leaving the intelligence community, Ramirez has enjoyed a second career as a UFO aficionado, making the rounds of the podcast circuit to tell the world what he allegedly knows. In February 2023, he gave an interview on Podcast UFO, during which he warned of an oncoming alien revelation in 2027.

According to Ramirez, the recent disclosures, whistleblowers, and underwater discoveries are all part of an intentional narrative to prepare the population for the day the aliens show up; a day he says is only a few years away.

...
"In many ways I think the word got out within the government that they're showing up in 2027 and we better be prepared. I've heard 2027 in kind of an official capacity I can't reveal. I would say people in the government are aware of something happening and that there is limited time, a few more years, to prepare the people," Ramirez said.

Source: https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/aliens-will-reveal-themselves-in-2027-claims-former-cia-agent

 

[Cogg84]

i'm thinking all the ufo guys and any too-into-it the twitter debunker people need to rent a cabin on a lake and go fishing for 3-6 months with no wi fi service and....decompress a bit... starts at 5:15

Source: https://youtu.be/3Oh_D6Mp6UU?t=316


someone on reddit says this guy Ramirez started it all?

Article:

According to former CIA agent John Ramirez, there's a reason for that.

After leaving the intelligence community, Ramirez has enjoyed a second career as a UFO aficionado, making the rounds of the podcast circuit to tell the world what he allegedly knows. In February 2023, he gave an interview on Podcast UFO, during which he warned of an oncoming alien revelation in 2027.

According to Ramirez, the recent disclosures, whistleblowers, and underwater discoveries are all part of an intentional narrative to prepare the population for the day the aliens show up; a day he says is only a few years away.

...
"In many ways I think the word got out within the government that they're showing up in 2027 and we better be prepared. I've heard 2027 in kind of an official capacity I can't reveal. I would say people in the government are aware of something happening and that there is limited time, a few more years, to prepare the people," Ramirez said.

Source: https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/aliens-will-reveal-themselves-in-2027-claims-former-cia-agent

Yeah this is the rumors I was referring too, I just forgot John Ramirez's name. Thanks for the detective work!!

 

[deirdre]

Thanks for the detective work!!

i just googled, and the Ramirez link was in the first thread i saw with the corbell video on reddit. i only opened it in youtube so i could embed it here. so all thanks goes to reddit.

 

[Ann K]

After leaving the intelligence community, Ramirez has enjoyed a second career as a UFO aficionado, making the rounds of the podcast circuit to tell the world what he allegedly knows. In February 2023, he gave an interview on Podcast UFO, during which he warned of an oncoming alien revelation in 2027.

I make the not-unreasonable assumption that anybody "in the intelligence community" was sworn to secrecy about what they know. Yet the fact that he is talking about UFOs (and is not under arrest) tells me that he must NOT be blabbing any secret stuff from his days with the CIA. He may be using his former position to give his UFO tales some credence, but in fact, exactly the opposite is true.

 

[john.phil]

In February 2023, he gave an interview on Podcast UFO, during which he warned of an oncoming alien revelation in 2027.

Elizondo alluded to it in 2022 (post #47 - 00:38:57 - 00:39:15). Ramirez denied it in June 2025 on Area52 podcast, claiming that the source is the channelling community and that he was just giving his opinion:

(01:43:35 - 01:46:03) Audience - The question is, what convinced you the 2027 revelation had to be made public despite your background in secrecy?

(01:43:45 - 01:45:25) John Ramirez - Well, first of all, I didn't bring that up in the environment I talked about. It was a SCIF. There were government officials there that brought it up and I didn't give it much thought because 2027 was mostly talked about in the channelling community and I don't really follow the channelling community in any kind of depth. (...)

And I'm surprised they are talking about it. But that question did come up, that discussion came up and I'm telling you what I told them, I have no idea. I don't know. You should ask the channellers about it. Ask Chris Bledsoe, ask Angelia Schultz. Any channeller, you know, just talk to them. They seem to know something, I don't. But they pressed me for my opinion. And it's just an opinion, right, of something that is out in social media. All right, so it's not secret in any sense. It's just a topic that's coming up and in the public domain. So I gave them my opinion and I said I don't know. "But what is your hope? What do you hope for in 2027?" You know? That kind of phrasing. So, well, my personal hope is that maybe they'll show up. I don't know. Maybe the NHI will show up in 2027. That's my hope. Let's just call it a year they'll show up. The arrival year, let's say. And, let's say they do arrive. Well, wouldn't it behoove you guys in government to start disclosing what you guys know about the phenomenon now? (...)

(01:46:47 - 01:46:50) Chris Ramsay - Hearsay, at this point.

(01:46:51 - 01:46:57) John Ramirez - I would say hearsay is a good way of phrasing it. But I don't know what's going to happen in 2027. (...)

(01:47:27 - 01:47:34) Chris Ramsay - I can tell you for sure, we will not going to ask you about 2027 in 2028.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS_Insp7i_Y&t=6215s

 

[NorCal Dave]

Ramirez denied it in June 2025 on Area52 podcast, claiming that the source is the channelling community and that he was just giving his opinion:

This is all such UFO speak. Ramirez goes on a podcast in 2023 claiming he heard about a "semi-official" something or other about aliens coming in 2027, which as you noted is biggybacking on Elizondo's claims. Note, this is from TicTok, which I loathe and refuse to engage with unless absolutely necessary. As such, I can't figure out transcripts or time stamps from it's content, so I just transcribed the interesting parts as best I could. It definitely got the gist of Ramirez's claim about 2027:

"We have 5 years..from 2022, well maybe 4 years from 2023 if they come in 2027 for the US government to prepare the people for what is up there"

"...the word got out, in the government, that they're showing up in 2027 and we better be prepared..."

"..that's why in 2017..um..that set a clock of 10 years..."

"...I've heard 2027 in kind of an official capacity I can't reveal.."

Source: https://www.tiktok.com/@dreamingravens/video/7257932442219089179


So, something he knew about, but couldn't reveal the source, at least back in 2023. Now a couple of years later it's maybe a SCIF he heard it in:

(01:43:45 - 01:45:25) John Ramirez - Well, first of all, I didn't bring that up in the environment I talked about. It was a SCIF. There were government officials there that brought it up and I didn't give it much thought because 2027 was mostly talked about in the channelling community and I don't really follow the channelling community in any kind of depth.

It appears Ramirez was out of the CIA by 2009, so this SCIF comment is either a reference to his CIA time back in the '00s, or more likely he MAY have been involved in one of the more recent SCIF meetings with congressional member that didn't amount to much. And of course he's going to claim he was involved in a SCIF briefing, because that puts him in the know.

And he's now pivoted from "...I've heard 2027 in kind of an official capacity I can't reveal..." to:

And I'm surprised they are talking about it. But that question did come up, that discussion came up and I'm telling you what I told them, I have no idea. I don't know. You should ask the channellers about it. Ask Chris Bledsoe, ask Angelia Schultz. Any channeller,

He sure as hell seemed to know all about it a couple of years ago. Even in this new denial, he keeps the vagueness going with a definitive maybe:

So, well, my personal hope is that maybe they'll show up. I don't know. Maybe the NHI will show up in 2027. That's my hope. Let's just call it a year they'll show up. The arrival year, let's say. And, let's say they do arrive. Well, wouldn't it behoove you guys in government to start disclosing what you guys know about the phenomenon now?

I would ask, do these guys not realize if they keep saying different things on different platforms they begin to contradict themselves? But I suppose they don't really care, because the audience they are playing to doesn't know or care.

No one cares because it's as much about entertainment and monetization as anything disclosure related. A prime example is this guys "set" he recorded the podcast in. It's DIY wall of old meters, oscilloscopes, audio equipment and other junk arranged like a '60s ScyFy set. I'm sure it's fun to record in, but it speaks to the entertainment aspect to all of this:

 

[deirdre]

Elizondo alluded to it in 2022 (post #47 - 00:38:57 - 00:39:15).

where? elizondo never says 5 years in those clips. i dont know who the guy in the waffle hoodie is, so im not gonna just take his word. What if i told you i talked to elizondo in 2022 and he told me he's building a bunker because something is coming in like 10 years.

Ramirez denied it in June 2025 on Area52 podcast, claiming that the source is the channelling community

ah.

 

[NoParty]

Does anyone know why "UFO/UAP" people talk about the year 2027 and does anyone know the significance of that date?

Okay, I'm definitely not as up-to-speed on this dodgy community, as many other smart folks here are...

but as soon as I saw your question, my mind immediately responded:

"To distract from the fact that their 2025 & 2026 stuff can't withstand the slightest bit of scrutiny!"

 

[Cogg84]

where? elizondo never says 5 years in those clips. i dont know who the guy in the waffle hoodie is, so im not gonna just take his word. What if i told you i talked to elizondo in 2022 and he told me he's building a bunker because something is coming in like 10 years.


ah.

Did you actually talk to Elizondo and he's building a bunker?

 

[deirdre]

Did you actually talk to Elizondo and he's building a bunker?

exactly.

 

[JMartJr]

Did you actually talk to Elizondo and he's building a bunker?

exactly.

I'd note the difference between "he is building a bunker" and "he said he is building a bunker." The latter, if true, would be evidence (though not proof) that there was something he expected which he took more seriously than would the former.

 

[deirdre]

The latter, if true, would be evidence (though not proof) that there was something he expected which he took more seriously than would the former.

the "evidence" is that he said the aliens are coming in 2032, not 2027.

 

[NorCal Dave]

exactly.

You personally talked to Elizondo and he told you he's building a bunker?!

 

[Cogg84]

You personally talked to Elizondo and he told you he's building a bunker?!

That's what I'm questioning too

 

[jdog]

That's what I'm questioning too

This is Elizondo we're talking about. If he could mentally project himself to the Middle East to torture a prisoner, there's no reason he couldn't do the same to Deirdre...

I'm sure he has a phone, he goes to conferences, there's no reason Deidre couldn't have talked to him. You can't expect every sighting to include a video.

 

[Todd Feinman]

Yeah! Bunkers! Build one, and witness the horror and terror for longer, before you die! Whoohoo. Ape burn down tree, now me hide in bunker.

 

[deirdre]

That's what I'm questioning too

go back to post #56. the topic is proof vs just taking someone's word for it.
(if you didnt watch the video, you might think john. phils statement is backed up by the video he timestamped... but it isnt, its just some guy in a waffle hoodie stating it. the guy provides no proof of the "5 years" or the date of "2022". He just says it is so. )

 

[deirdre]

Elizondo we're talking about. If he could mentally project himself to the Middle East to torture a prisoner, there's no reason he couldn't do the same to Deirdre...

why would he torture me?

1. im cute as a button.
2. im showing some spine and pointing out possibly false claims against elizondo. (like i've done a few times on metabunk)
3. He couldnt. I'm more powerful than he is.

 

[Mendel]

im showing some spine and pointing out possibly false claims against elizondo. (like i've done a few times on metabunk)

except you've failed to make your point straight, and instead hinted at it

you could have said, "you wouldn't believe me if I told you Elizondo was building a bunker without hearing it from Elizondo himself, so why do you take this guy's word for it?" and instead you opted to be "cute" and oblique, and suddenly the thread is about you.

I'd note the difference between "he is building a bunker" and "he said he is building a bunker." The latter, if true, would be evidence (though not proof) that there was something he expected which he took more seriously than would the former.

I'd say actually building a bunker shows he is more serious.

 

[deirdre]

and instead you opted to be "cute" and oblique

it was cute, but i dont think it was oblique. i thought it was pretty obvious.

and im not the one who went all off topic with the 2027 stuff.. why dont you complain about that?

 

[FatPhil]

As per Patrick's video, the 2027 rumour is evolving into various forms:

• A planet is heading this way (Nibiru-like myth);
• A planet-sized object is heading this way (because a planet would disrupt the other planets, but the object would be hollow)
• A massive spacecraft is heading this way (because a planet-sized object would be spotted early on);
• Space Force is preparing for something big (actually it's SPACECOM that needs to achieve a milestone by 2027 because their field is evolving fast);
• Disclosure will happen soon (because the population needs to prepare for the imminent invasion - Patrick thinks this could be the reason for Elizondo's book title);
• The 2027 event is a lie (because the government needs a false flag to take away people's freedom; or it's a psyop to discredit UFO influencers).

2027's when the alien's paycheck arrives, the one who's playing us, and he can finally afford some DLC for the simulation we're in.

 

[FatPhil]

No one cares because it's as much about entertainment and monetization as anything disclosure related. A prime example is this guys "set" he recorded the podcast in. It's DIY wall of old meters, oscilloscopes, audio equipment and other junk arranged like a '60s ScyFy set. I'm sure it's fun to record in, but it speaks to the entertainment aspect to all of this:

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If what they were discussing was so sooper-seekrit, they shouldn't it have been performed under the cone of silence?

 

[JMartJr]

I'd say actually building a bunker shows he is more serious.

You are correct, I messed up that sentence. Off to see if it is still editable...
It is not still editable... so, a bit late, that SHOULD have read, "I'd note the difference between "he is building a bunker" and "he said he is building a bunker." The FORMER, if true, would be evidence (though not proof) that there was something he expected which he took more seriously than would the LATTER.

Sorry, and thanks for catching it!

 

[deirdre]

The FORMER, if true, would be evidence (though not proof) that there was something he expected which he took more seriously

not to pull this thread off on yet another tangent (that also has nothing to do with my original comment), but i personally think alot of bunker guys these days just do it cause it's "cool" and is kinda it's own little community. It is good for men (and women) to have hobbies.

 

[Mick West]

For SPACECOM, 2027 has to do with China (PRC) and their goal of reunifying Taiwan (by force or threat) by the end of 2027

https://media.defense.gov/2025/Dec/...OLVING-THE-PEOPLES-REPUBLIC-OF-CHINA-2025.PDF

The PLA continues to make steady progress toward its 2027 goals, whereby the PLA must be able toachieve "strategic decisive victory" over Taiwan, "strategic counterbalance" against the United Statesin the nuclear and other strategic domains, and "strategic deterrence and control" against other regionalcountries. In other words, China expects to be able to fight and win a war on Taiwan by the end of 2027.

There's more detail in the linked document. This is linked to the "Davidson Window"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davidson_window

The Davidson window is a strategic concept referring to the timeframe between 2021 and 2027 during which military analysts believe China will develop sufficient capabilities to attempt control of Taiwan.[1]​ Named after Admiral Philip S. Davidson, the concept has become central to Indo-Pacific defense planning and U.S.-China strategic competition.

The concept gained widespread attention following CIA Director William J. Burns' 2023 statement that, according to U.S. intelligence, General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party Xi Jinping had instructed the People's Liberation Army to be ready for a Taiwan invasion by 2027.

This has been known and discussed for years. I think the UFO connection is simply people hearing about a massive threat to world peace and the economy (WWIII, the cessation of cheap goods from China) coming in 2027, and the message got twisted in the repeated telling.