Mysterious disappearance of UFO-linked Air Force general sparks nationwide search

[NorCal Dave]

Just out of curiosity, would you please include some link to that McCasland's statement about ZPE? Thanks!

This is the problem with UFO stories like this. Christopher Sharp and other UFO media people suggest McCasland's disappearance may have been somehow tied to something nefarious because the guys at TTSA suggested he may have known about alien technology form Roswell, like ZPE. When in fact nobody has produced anything yet indicating he did. Same as Sharp bringing up that the FBI and the local AFB involvement is "suspicious". It's not, it's common, but that doesn't make for a good story.

It's all inference, speculation, and hype, likely tied to DeLong's attempt to get TTSA up and running.

Which brings us to your other post:

I think it's worth highlighting the email from Wikileaks that allegedly involves McCasland in the early stages of TTSA:

Lot's of people were involved with TTSA at the beginning. Let's look at what the email actually says. First, it's from Tom DeLong to John Podesta in January of 2016:

From:t.delonge@me.com
To: john.podesta@gmail.com
Date: 2016-01-25 16:04

Subject: General McCasland

This is a year before DeLong, Puthoff and Jim Semivan founded To The Stars Academy (TTSA):

The company was founded in 2017 as a public benefit corporation by Jim Semivan, Harold E. Puthoff, and Tom DeLonge.[2]​[4]​ The Entertainment Division was created by acquiring DeLonge's previous media company, To the Stars, Inc.[4]​[5]​

In September 2017, the company began offering $50 million worth of public stock through a Regulation A+ equity crowdfunding campaign.[4]​[6]​

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_The_Stars_Inc.

It's certainly possible this email, and others, were attempts by DeLong to get more people involved in the project and McCasland or maby even Podesta, seemed to be a targets. But I think DeLong had a glaring problem in this the email as relates to McCasland's views:

He mentioned he's a "skeptic", he's not. I've been working with him for four months. I just got done giving him
a four hour presentation on the entire project a few weeks ago.

Trust me, the advice is already been happening on how to do all this. He just has to say that out loud, but he
is very, very aware- as he was in charge of all of the stuff.

When Roswell crashed, they shipped it to the
laboratory at Wright Patterson Air Force Base. General McCasland was in charge of that exact laboratory up to a
couple years ago.
He not only knows what I'm trying to achieve, he helped assemble my advisory team. He's a very important man.
Best,
Tom DeLonge
TOM DELONGE FOUNDER
TOM@TOTHESTARSINC.COM | (760) 518-7801 | TO THE STARS MEDIA
SAN DIEGO
1053 S Coast Hwy 101 Encinitas, CA 92024

This not McCasland, it's DeLong talking and it's all filtered through DeLong at the time he was trying to put TTSA together. He states about McCasland, "He mentioned he's a "skeptic". So, McCasland had apparently said he was a skeptic either to Podesta or publicly. It's DeLong that says he's not a skeptic, not McCasland himself.

DeLong is trying to convince Podesta that McCasland's likely public mention of his skepticism, is not true. DeLong is insinuating that McCasland is a believer and onboard with the plans for TTSA.

Again, DeLong was trying to set up TTSA at this time and a lot of people showed some interest, at first, but I've yet to see anything indicating McCasland ever had much to do with TTSA. He may have met with DeLong a few times, but it doesn't appear he was involved beyond that.

He's a retired General with some apparent health issues that has gone missing. All this UFO nonsense is hyped up by UFOlogist that believe an alien flying saucer crashed at Roswell, was taken to WPAFB and 60 some year later, McCasland headed the AFRL at WPAFB that still had the crashed UFO. Having established, at least for UFO people, that McCasland knows all about this flying saucer and the alien technology associated with it, they now suggest his life is endangered, possibly by someone like the MiBs.

Even if his disappearance was tied to his knowledge of UFOs and alien technology, why wait till now? Why have him disappear when he's living a quiet retired life with some serious health issues? Why didn't the MiBs go after him when he was supposedly running his mouth about secret alien stuff to DeLong?

 

[deirdre]

Just out of curiosity, would you please include some link to that McCasland's statement about ZPE? Thanks!

it seems to be DeLonge's statement. this is about Ross Coultharts book:

Article:

A punk rocker called DeLonge who claims that one his tracks was "about aliens that come to Earth and 'fly up your butt. And it's true'" gets several chapters. "The idea that a punk-pop rock star could achieve what decades of UAP conspiracy whistleblowers have tried to do and failed – forcing the whole purported US government UAP conspiracy out into the open – is surely ridiculous." It may be, but the author is still enthralled by it. "DeLonge also claimed the US already knew the secrets of free energy, so-called zero-point energy. 'One inch of air could power the US for hundreds of years,'" (Ch 16)

Source: https://davesbookblog-daja.blogspot.com/2022/06/in-plain-sight-by-ross-coulthart.html

this site says DeLonge said it on a podcast

Article:

DeLonge later suggested on a podcast[/B] that he was being guided by McCasland and others in a slow disclosure effort regarding unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP).

He also claimed that government or contractor groups possessed advanced "free energy" or zero-point energy technology, stating:

"One inch of air could power the U.S. for hundreds of years."

Source: https://slaynews.com/news/former-head-military-base-linked-ufo-rumors-missing/[B

this site page 151 says the quote was on joe rogan experience ( i cut off beginning of quote because its on a prior page and i cant screenshot both pages at once.. it is the quote though

october 26, 2017

add: oops forgot to post the link https://studylib.net/doc/26311151/abductions-by-country?p=150

 

[Ann K]

I admit that deeply cynical thoughts follow here. But if anyone has a serious professional position in his earlier career yet switches to UFOlogy later in life, my first thoughts are to ask if his cognitive functions are in decline. The same goes for those who become obsessed with conspiracy theories. A person's mind at forty is sharper ( or more focused on reality) than that same mind in old age.
(Edited to correct! Yes, I got that backwards. Mea culpa.)

Yes, I realize that the General was not excessively old, but having lived with a husband who was a scientific professional, then exhibited his dementia in his early sixties, I know very well that there's no set age for cognitive decline.

 

[deirdre]

A person's mind at forty is not necessarily as sharp (or as focused on reality) as that same mind in old age

wouldnt this be backwards for McCasland?

But if anyone has a serious professional position in his earlier career yet switches to UFOlogy later in life, my first thoughts are to ask if his cognitive functions are in decline.

i have the same thoughts about people who dont switch to "conservative" later in life.

 

[Todd Feinman]

There was good old Roscoe Hillenkoeter.
"Roscoe Henry Hillenkoetter (May 8, 1897 – June 18, 1982) was the third director of the post–World War II United States Central Intelligence Group (CIG), the third Director of Central Intelligence (DCI), and the first director of the Central Intelligence Agency created by the National Security Act of 1947. He served as DCI and director of the CIG and the CIA from May 1, 1947, to October 7, 1950, and, after his retirement from the United States Navy, was a member of the board of governors of National Investigations Committee On Aerial Phenomena (NICAP) from 1957 to 1962."

Wikipedia link

UFO-related shocking statements from him (A-Z Quotes)

 

[Todd Feinman]

Nathan Twining?

 

[Mendel]

If Sharp's claim is (roughly) correct, he might be referring to Kirtland Air Force Base to the southeast of Albuquerque.

Kirtland AFB is probably providing Search And Rescue services.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/512th_Rescue_Squadron

The 512th Rescue Squadron is part of the 58th Special Operations Wing based at Kirtland Air Force Base, New Mexico.

https://www.kirtland.af.mil/News/Tag/887/search-and-rescue/

June 29, 2023
58 Special Operations Wing at Kirtland assists Colorado authorities missing hiker search

Helicopters with IR and trained operators are invaluable when searching for missing, possibly immobilized persons in rough terrain.

 

[Todd Feinman]

wouldnt this be backwards for McCasland?


i have the same thoughts about people who dont switch to "conservative" later in life.

Once you go over the hill, and life starts contracting, you get more conservative until you die altogether.

 

[Ann K]

wouldnt this be backwards for McCasland?


i have the same thoughts about people who dont switch to "conservative" later in life.

Thanks for the correction. But it would seem unusual to me for people to lose their morality along with their marbles.

 

[Ann K]

Once you go over the hill, and life starts contracting, you get more conservative until you die altogether.

That's not my experience ...although I cheerfully admit to being "over the hill". And among my friends, almost all people in my age bracket, some are conservative, but those ones always were. It's not a phenomenon of old age.

I have the feeling, although I don't know it for certain, that most Metabunk members are mature-to-elderly adults, and most are well educated. Yet I don't see a majority of them supporting conservative viewpoints. You can opine whether political position is due to age or due to education, if you like.

 

[deirdre]

You can opine whether political position is due to age or due to education, if you like.

not to bum you out, but alot of conservatives blame it on the colleges. but i was always a conservative too, well from like age 25 when i actually thought about it and got some life experience under my belt.

I thought you would get my old reference to that saying "If you are young and conservative, you have no heart; If you are old and liberal..." <since you were being mean again about people's brains.

 

[NorCal Dave]

Do we really need yet another discussion of political views in a supposedly non-political thread?

 

[Ann K]

but alot of conservatives blame it on the colleges

Yes, I've heard that. It usually comes from people without a college education. To quote Donald Trump, "I love the poorly educated."

@NorCal Dave , we're wandering from the general himself to the question of his possible dementia. Sorry!

 

[NoParty]

Once you go over the hill, and life starts contracting, you get more conservative until you die altogether.

This sounds like each week of getting older, you get more & more bites of conservatism...aka "mini-deaths" '

New from Kellogg's: Frosted Mini-Deaths! Now with less fiber, more trans fats & refreshing nicotine creamed filling!

 

[deirdre]

Do we really need yet another discussion of political views in a supposedly non-political thread?

How come you only bring that up the 1 time i broach politics and not the 4,000 times other people do?

How come you dont ask Anne "do we really need you telling us how stupid and/or brain damaged conspiracy theorists are in yet another thread?

 

[NorCal Dave]

How come you only bring that up the 1 time i broach politics and not the 4,000 times other people do?

How come you dont ask Anne "do we really need you telling us how stupid and/or brain damaged conspiracy theorists are in yet another thread?

I was referring to both of you, and really anyone getting all political on a thread about a supposedly UFO related missing person, but chose not to use the @ so as to be subtle and polite.

 

[Todd Feinman]

That's not my experience ...although I cheerfully admit to being "over the hill". And among my friends, almost all people in my age bracket, some are conservative, but those ones always were. It's not a phenomenon of old age.

I have the feeling, although I don't know it for certain, that most Metabunk members are mature-to-elderly adults, and most are well educated. Yet I don't see a majority of them supporting conservative viewpoints. You can opine whether political position is due to age or due to education, if you like.

I was mostly just teasing Deirdre. But, Google AI says (and this might explain you, Ann!):
"
Key Findings on Aging and Conservatism:

• General Trend: Research suggests that people tend to become more conservative as they age, a trend that is consistent across generations. This shift is often attributed to life experiences and a potential rise in right-wing authoritarianism or desire for stability.
• The Democratic Exception: Studies show that the age divide in political ideology is much more pronounced among Republicans than Democrats.
• Democratic Consistency: Data indicates that political views among Democrats remain relatively stable regardless of age. Furthermore, in certain generational cohorts, older Democrats have shown increasing or steady levels of liberalism over the past two decades."

 

[NorCal Dave]

to the question of his possible dementia.

Something pertinent to the discussion. Although it's hard to suggest someone has declining mental faculties, the criteria New Mexico seems to use for a Silver Alert does indicate something like that. If he were just diabetic or had needed medication for hyper-tension (I know about that), it doesn't seem like a Silver Alert would be issued, at least not right away.

At least we're not speculating that his possible cognitive issues have resulted in his UFO claims, as most of those are so far, attributed to people other than him.