Monsanto acquires Climate Corporaton for $1.1 Billion

jvnk08

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I just saw this article and can't help but feel the chemtrail/GMO crowd will go crazy with this one. It combines both the ultimate evil corporation with a company centered around the "fabled" issue of climate change. I figured a thread about it would be appropriate to collect thoughts and/or debunkings of the inevitable claims about the subject as more news comes out.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/02/mo...ig-data-company-climate-corporation-for-930m/

Edit: I just realized that maybe I can't see the forest from the trees here - the links to geoengineering/"chemtrails" may be tenuous at best. Maybe this will be better off in Conspiracy Theories? I'm all for this thread being moved if it fits better elsewhere.
 
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Mick West

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Climate corporation seem to have nothing to do with climate change, they are just ag specific weather forecasters.

http://climate.com/products
They also do crop insurance for weather.

It makes sense to integrate weather data with general crop management. However there are enough key words here that it's inevitable that it will get presented as evidence of something. Probably tied into the weather derivatives argument.

The general argument is that it would be possible to make money if you could control the weather. The rebuttal for which is "doh". There's still no evidence that anyone is actually doing it.
 

jvnk08

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I recall a theory that because Monsanto is developing Aluminum-resistant crops they must be planning to complement them with aluminum-laden chemtrails, thereby killing off all crops but theirs. Of course, it would be quite obvious if that were actually happening. Just like I did, I can't help but see people reading "Climate Corporation" and "Monsanto" in the same sentence and immediately thinking of something related to chemtrails.

There's a thread going on at Lunatic Outpost, some people have mentioned the aluminum resistant theory: http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Monsanto-Buys-Climate-Corporation
 

Mick West

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I recall a theory that because Monsanto is developing Aluminum-resistant crops they must be planning to complement them with aluminum-laden chemtrails, thereby killing off all crops but theirs. Of course, it would be quite obvious if that were actually happening. Just like I did, I can't help but see people reading "Climate Corporation" and "Monsanto" in the same sentence and immediately thinking of something related to chemtrails.

There's a thread going on at Lunatic Outpost, some people have mentioned the aluminum resistant theory: http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Monsanto-Buys-Climate-Corporation

See:
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-monsantos-aluminum-resistant-gmos-and-chemtrails.341/
 
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SR1419

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I just saw this article and can't help but feel the chemtrail/GMO crowd will go crazy with this one. It combines both the ultimate evil corporation with a company centered around the "fabled" issue of climate change. I figured a thread about it would be appropriate to collect thoughts and/or debunkings of the inevitable claims about the subject as more news comes out.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/02/mo...ig-data-company-climate-corporation-for-930m/


The article is wrong. Cargill is the largest Agribusiness company in the World. Monsanto's revenues last year were approximately $13 billion. Cargill's revenues were $136 billion.

http://www.monsanto.com/investors/Pages/financial-highlights.aspx

http://www.cargill.com/company/glance/
 

SR1419

Senior Member.
Well, to be fair, Cargill has their fingers in a lot more pies than just agribusiness.

Not really...they do have some Risk Management and Financial Services business as well as some "industrial" businesses (a lot of which come from their Ag background- using soy, corn and sunflower oils etc...to make industrial products)

But the vast majority of their revenues come from the production and processing of agricultural commodities and food ingredients and associated Ag services.

They are the World's largest Agribusiness company (and yet still private)

BTW- I emailed the author of the article and she has since corrected it...

http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/24/news/companies/cargill_food_business.fortune/index.htm
 

jvnk08

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Not really...they do have some Risk Management and Financial Services business as well as some "industrial" businesses (a lot of which come from their Ag background- using soy, corn and sunflower oils etc...to make industrial products)

But the vast majority of their revenues come from the production and processing of agricultural commodities and food ingredients and associated Ag services.

They are the World's largest Agribusiness company (and yet still private)

BTW- I emailed the author of the article and she has since corrected it...

http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/24/news/companies/cargill_food_business.fortune/index.htm


So, the largest agribusiness by far, but they're also a larger and more diversified company in general(even if those portions of the business are small in comparison to their main revenue generating operation). Cargill has ~140k employees compared to Monsanto's ~20k.

But yeah, it's always baffled me why Monsanto gets so much attention from the anti-GMO and/or conspiracy crowd when, as a perfect example, Cargill is much larger and has their fair share of questionable practices themselves: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargill#Criticism


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I've been looking for this story to pop up on the usual outlets, and so far everything I've seen seems to be a mostly neutral verbatim regurgitation of the press release. There's some mention of the March Against Monsanto but that's about it.

Example:

http://beforeitsnews.com/internatio...oration-reports-4q-earnings-loss-2469564.html
 

SR1419

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So, the largest agribusiness by far, but they're also a larger and more diversified company in general(even if those portions of the business are small in comparison to their main revenue generating operation). Cargill has ~140k employees compared to Monsanto's ~20k.

But yeah, it's always baffled me why Monsanto gets so much attention from the anti-GMO and/or conspiracy crowd when, as a perfect example, Cargill is much larger and has their fair share of questionable practices themselves: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargill#Criticism


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I've been looking for this story to pop up on the usual outlets, and so far everything I've seen seems to be a mostly neutral verbatim regurgitation of the press release. There's some mention of the March Against Monsanto but that's about it.

Example:

http://beforeitsnews.com/internatio...oration-reports-4q-earnings-loss-2469564.html

Yea- Cargill is way bigger and some would argue much more influential...and the fact that they are private and with little in the way of actual "brands" they are quite under the radar for most people. Most of their diversification comes from a "value add" approach to building business...ie; turning corn into corn syrup...turning corn syrup into biodegradable packaging.

I think the deal with Monsanto is they deal in seeds which is the basis for Ag and thus some sort of primal attractant for people...and of course, the whole GMO thing which freaks people out...not to mention their contractual baggage.

Here is the New York Times take on the acquisition:

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/...?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20131003&_r=0

 

Jay Reynolds

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“A farmer should be able to grow on farmland square meter by square meter, for lots more yield, planting seeds at different rates for each meter,” said Kerry Preete, Monsanto’s executive vice president of strategy. “We’re a data company at heart, breeding seeds and helping farmers optimize yields and manage risk.”

An interesting concept. Some tractors now have GPS built in and soil maps can be fed into software which allows the farmer to custom sow, fertilize etc. at differing rates on different plots of land having differing yield potential. No need to waste inputs on land that doesn't need or respond or is somehow limited and increase seed density or fertilizer application in land that can use/need it.

Already, rice farmers can reduce water usage up to 50% by precision leveling using lasers or GPS. The traditional curved levees are being replaced by grids.
 
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