Mick West on Joe Rogan Experience

Mick West

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SyFY not mainstream? hum. Syfy is owned by who exactly? NBC Universal Cable, NBC Universal and Comcast. I don't think it gets any more mainstream than Steve Burke, The Walt Disney Company & President of ABC Broadcasting. General Electric owns NBC, one of the largest Nuclear Power manufactures and weapons suppliers world wide. So your facts need polishing.

I said "not that mainstream" I mean it's not mainstream compared to a network station (NBC) in 2001. It's just a mildly popular cable channel.

The point is that he was a lot MORE mainstream back when he was more of a truther.
 

anna layloria

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SyFy is big money and all funded by GE bottom line. Propagandist machine's all with a traceable history. How deep do you want me to dig to prove SyFy is as big as they get.
 

Mick West

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This is irrelevant. You don't trust Joe Rogan, we get it.

Does that mean you trust me? I'm not being paid by NBC, or anyone.
 

Mick West

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Nope. No money. I did it for fun. Most people appearing on shows like that do not get paid.

So you trust me then?
 

Hama Neggs

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SyFY not mainstream? hum. Syfy is owned by who exactly? NBC Universal Cable, NBC Universal and Comcast. I don't think it gets any more mainstream than Steve Burke, The Walt Disney Company & President of ABC Broadcasting. General Electric owns NBC, one of the largest Nuclear Power manufactures and weapons suppliers world wide. So your facts need polishing.

So you're suggesting that the short run of "Joe Rogan Questions Everything" is MORE mainstream than 5 years of "Fear Factor"?
 

anna layloria

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I am not debating anything close to that, sorry. Sometimes words have a way of being 'interpreted' incorrectly. What I said is Joe Rogan is now working for mainstream, and it always has an agenda that now they dictate to him.
 

Hama Neggs

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I am not debating anything close to that, sorry. Sometimes words have a way of being 'interpreted' incorrectly. What I said is Joe Rogan is now working for mainstream, and it always has an agenda that now they dictate to him.
The operative word being "now", as if he wasn't involved in anything "mainstream" when he was more of a 'truther'. Sorry, but your point falls flat.
 

Hama Neggs

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he works for the mainstream agenda of a large weapons manufacture. That's where the trail ends.

And your evidence of his alleged working for this agenda would be? Is it primarily that he comes to conclusions which disagree with yours?

His association with "mainstream" is certainly no closer than when you say he was a 'truther'. How do you explain that?
 

anna layloria

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shall we dig deeper? Let me explain. GE= weapons/nulcaer manufacturer among other things. GE owns Universal. Joe Rogan works for Universal/NBC. The agenda is clear.
 

Hama Neggs

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shall we dig deeper? Let me explain. GE= weapons/nulcaer manufacturer among other things. GE owns Universal. Joe Rogan works for Universal/NBC. The agenda is clear.

"Truther" Joe worked steadily for: http://www.nbc.com/fear-factor/ Note the "NBC" in that web address. Why were opinions Joe expressed back then supposedly valid, considering the claimed agenda of his employer? I imagine Joe made way more money for doing FEAR FACTOR than he is making now.
 

anna layloria

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Please, if we are going to gracefully call each other titles, I can call you an 'agenda-ist' or perhaps a de-programer okay? When he was on fear factor, he was not promoting any agenda except mindless television PROGRAMING to distract people. His new show completely and utterly goes against everything he ever believed while he was independent on blog talks and he was his own boss. Get it?
 

Pete Tar

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shall we dig deeper? Let me explain. GE= weapons/nulcaer manufacturer among other things. GE owns Universal. Joe Rogan works for Universal/NBC. The agenda is clear.

So the agenda is Joe supports weapons manufacturing?


Trust? Not really. That has to be earned. So far if I could subtract points or trophies from someone, it would be you.

Really? On what grounds other than spitefulness?
 

Mick West

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I'm afraid Anna has been banned after repeatedly violating the posting guidelines and politeness policy. If anyone would like to continue discussing things with her, then I suggest they go to her YouTube channel.
 
J

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Of course. Everyone knows about him, he's a public figure. His past is open. He has nothing to hide. He's much less conspiratorial minded now because he's smart, and he's been exposed to a lot of information. He's also older and wiser than he was.

His podcast is not mainstream though. Even SyFY is not that mainstream. The most mainstream thing he did was the five years (146 episodes) of Fear Factor on NBC from 2001 to 2006 (and the later reboot). So if anything, he was part of the corporate machine back in his most "truther" days. Here's a 2001 episode.

He's much less conspiratorial minded now because he's smart
??? what are you implying ? :)
 

Mick West

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??? what are you implying ? :)
What are you inferring?

Neither. I was stating my opinion, which in full was:
"He's much less conspiratorial minded now because he's smart, and he's been exposed to a lot of information."

Just being smart isn't enough. He also looked into the subject in depth, and with an open mind. He's still not convinced on 9/11, but he's LESS prone to believe everything.

Just like you Joe. You believe less of the claims about chemtrails because you are reasonably smart, and you read about the science.

But it does not work for everyone. Some people, even smart people, eventually become immune to contradictory information. Particularly 9/11 truthers.

Mick, I wanna know if Joe gave you any UFC tickets?
Nope, nothing.
 

Mumbles

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So you're suggesting that the short run of "Joe Rogan Questions Everything" is MORE mainstream than 5 years of "Fear Factor"?

Indeed. Until very recently Fear Factor was the only thing I associated Rogan with. Used to appointment viewing in my flat once upon a time :)
 

WeedWhacker

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Neither. I was stating my opinion, which in full was:
"He's much less conspiratorial minded now because he's smart, and he's been exposed to a lot of information."

Just being smart isn't enough. He also looked into the subject in depth, and with an open mind. He's still not convinced on 9/11, but he's LESS prone to believe everything.

Just like you Joe. You believe less of the claims about chemtrails because you are reasonably smart, and you read about the science.

But it does not work for everyone. Some people, even smart people, eventually become immune to contradictory information. Particularly 9/11 truthers.


Nope, nothing.

Mick, saw a recent post of yours RE: a DisneyLand visit (last May, 2014??) where you mentioned you ran into Joe Rogan, in the theme park.

(Sorry I cannot recall where you stated this) {{see EDIT below}} but, just to ask:

DID you get any chance to chat with Mr. Rogan? I have to say (for the record) I've been a 'fan' of some of his humor (humour) until he went all "Apollo Was A Hoax" conspiracy a few years back....although I think his friendship with Penn Gillette helped him to realize where he'd gone wrong, there.

So, I give Mr. Rogan credit for learning, and realizing his past misunderstandings.

EDIT:!! Found the reference, May 2014!!

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/ph...hat-you-took-yourself.1487/page-7#post-106356
 
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Mick West

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DID you get any chance to chat with Mr. Rogan?
Only briefly, he was busy with family.

Joe, I think, is largely off the conspiracy thing. His experience on Joe Rogan Questions Everything gave him the opportunity to look clearly at both sides of many arguments, and to meet a large number of proponents of those arguments. I think the weight of the evidence made him more skeptical. He's a very bright guy.
 

Gary Cook

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Welcome Eddie. I'd agree with you on the first paragraph, but not the second.

I try very hard to just focus on claims of evidence, and not to draw broader conclusions. With 9/11 I've focussed mostly on the evidence for controlled demolition. Like I said on the show, people tend to jump from one thing to the next. What's really needed is a more rigorous look at each individual claim of evidence, so the same things don't get endlessly regurgitated.

If you think there are facts and numbers I can't get my head around (regarding controlled demolition), then I'd be happy to heard them.

True Mick, but, with all due respect, sometimes you seem to ignore things that are more circumstantial completely. Law enforcement consider circumstantial evidence in their investigations.

Do you really believe that 3 pilots on the same day managed such feats of accurate piloting that happened on 9/11 apparently?

I know and dig that MB is about claims of evidence but often peoples opinions about anti-conspiracy are often obviously considered more than peoples opinion to the contrary. I am not surprised some new people especially seem to be suspicious. Only constructive criticism.

Anyway thank for the video. I look forward to listening to all of it. :)

As an aside, I like Joe, he is a anti-statist violence chap like myself.
 
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MikeC

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Do you really believe that 3 pilots on the same day managed such feats of accurate piloting that happened on 9/11 apparently?

well they did plan to do it on the 1 day, so why not??

What specifically is the "circumstantial evidence" you claim here?

the thread has a lot of discussion as to just how hard people think hitting the buildings would be:

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/9-11-how-hard-is-it-to-hit-a-building-at-500mph.1153/

The consensus from people who actually fly appears to be that it should be little or no problem at all.

the only disagreement is from people who claim otherwise based on nothing particularly concrete at all as far as I can see - mainly they don't want it to be true!
 

Mick West

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Let's not go over old ground here. Gary if you want to discuss 9/11, first try searching for the topic, and then start a new thread if you can conform to the posting guidelines
 

Gary Cook

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I didn't. Was just an example of my point. But only making convo really. Nothing personal of course.

Although, can I be a senior member now? I'm 35 next year. That's practically middle-aged. =)
 
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