MH17: Russia Claims Ukranian military plane flying nearby before incident


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If you're going to resort to that kind of insinuations, then I'm out of here.

Sorry if you thought it was directed at you - I intended it as an illustrative/learning comment.

It is pointing out how it is possible to get side-tracked by related but irrelevant considerations - and that is a tactic you will see a lot of from CT's and is a good thing to recognise and avoid yourself.


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Recent updates. Another video showing Ukrainian Air Force Mechanic Evgeny Agapov.

Video of Ukrainian eye-witness Lev Aleksandrovich who claimed to have seen a Sukhoi attacking MH17.

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Previous claim from Ukrainian Air Force Mechanic.
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