I think it's important to remember that the WHO is not some all seeing all knowing entity but a group of people who are experts in their field combining the best of their knowledge to understand a new virus in a very short space of time. Undoubtedly we will look back and there will have been plenty of mistakes made but I wouldn't say this amounts to them being untrustworthy. I would also add that masks were not recommended to ensure that the PPE in existence was going to those who need it most, doctors and nurses.that's what i said.
Messonier never appeared at White House briefings. I'm not defending the Trump administration, just pointing out bunk i have come across before and looked up. https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/biden-video-on-trump-silencing-expert/
yes people are not trusting the CDC because they really screwed up the early tests and everyone blamed Trump unfairly for it, when he had nothing to do with some lab tech messing up and the agency not checking. and because people (of all political bents) are arguing about how deaths are being counted.
But that doesn't mean they are going to trust WHO. WHO hasnt been helpful at all (to America) in this pandemic. WHO said not to instill travel bans, which every country ignored and eventually did. WHO said not to use masks because it didnt want to upset underdeveloped countries. WHO didnt push a hard line with China early on to find out what was really happening (not that i blame them, if you upset China they will never release any info in the future) etc.
and Redfield and Messioner are political appointees under Trump and they aren't pushing Trumps alleged agenda, so .... people need to stop believing MSM and SM (social media) more.
which is why you should listen to your country and local health officials first. The world will have different resources at different times.I would also add that masks were not recommended to ensure that the PPE in existence was going to those who need it most, doctors and nurses.
his team (Fauchi, Birch, the FDA guy etc) has said repeatedly that he does listen to them. But people losing their homes, their businesses and people starving is a big issue too.Trump is not an expert in medicine or viruses and would do well to listen to some once in a while
If you need evidence on this then I don't know what to say, each side is going to be biased in some way. That is pure psychology. Show me any group that has never ever misrepresented something. Everything should be consumed and then fact checked from everyone.Evidence?
if they misrepresented something it should be easy to supply evidence. Otherwise how did you determine the misrepresented?If you need evidence on this then I don't know what to say, each side is going to be biased in some way. That is pure psychology. Show me any group that has never ever misrepresented something. Everything should be consumed and then fact checked from everyone.
were we supposed to actually give evidence? can i list some or do i have to copy and paste the bunk and the debunks? heres a few i think everyone is aware of or that i recently gave evidence for here on MB. (in fact i gave evidence for the 'Messonier silenced' one in the very comment "critical thinker" was arguing with me about. That's why i ignored his request for evidence, sorry.if they misrepresented something it should be easy to supply evidence.
Leifer is paraphrasing and since we can't see her words, it isnt really fair to assume what she is saying.
but yes, anything that hinders your liberties is a "socialist introduction" <that's me assuming what Leifer means by "socialist introduction".
Source: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10223713332089070&id=1465874423I am having a sorta-polite argument with a person/people who believe that "mandated
People seem to be very polarized on the issue.
I argued that just because mask-wearing was mandated, does not mean the Gov't is an overlord.
I have been working out-of-town in SF,CA for the past 45 days.... but with some non-distancing, and accidental or necessary face mask removal. (Construction industry)(July 23rd)
“California has too many COVID-19 cases to realistically investigate and trace each new infection, Health and Human Services Secretary Dr. Mark Ghaly said Tuesday,” according to The Sacramento Bee.
“At the level of transmission we’re seeing across the state, even a very very robust contact tracing team in every single county will have a hard time reaching out to every case,” Ghaly said . “No one has anticipated building a program to contact trace the level of cases we’re seeing here.”
Read more here: https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/editorials/article244411497.html#storylink=cpy
Like I said, it was difficult to decide. There are two archetypes of right wingers: The militaristic, black-clothed, boot-wearing, skinhead, in-your-face nazi - and the bourgeois, family-friendly, law-abiding but nonetheless foreigner-hating everyman who is scared of the results of democratic processes.is that really what your far-right groups look like in Germany? they all look so hippy/casual.. so unlike in America!
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