# "GO FAST" Footage from Tom DeLonge's To The Stars Academy. Bird? Balloon?

#### Agent K

##### Senior Member
I thought that was just a visual indication of the direction of the camera relative to the plane?

Might be useful to track that in After Effects. It's finer grained than the ° numbers, and could tell us something about the ground tracking mode which confuses people.

That's how it seems to be behaving in this video, which would be redundant. In the Gimbal video, the dot is almost at the top when the azimuth reads zero, but it reaches the top when the azimuth is about 6 degrees.

Edit: On second thought, I guess it's at the top at 0 degrees. It's hard to read because it overlaps other symbology. So camera direction makes more sense.

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#### Justin Shaw

##### New Member
Great! Thanks.

Now can I track that line in 3ds Max and use it as an animation trajectory. I think.

I have zero aviation experience, so I'm confused and will sound pretty ignorant here, but why does the jet bank to the left in all these calculations when the artificial horizon banks to the right?

And does anyone know, for a 3D recreation would I want to use the TAS or CAS?

For a 3D recreation, I think you want to use ground speed. That is TAS + Wind. We don't know the wind speed or direction, but we could figure it out based on the video @igoddard posted stabilized to the waves (conveniently at sea level!). Here is the data based on true airspeed (no wind taken into consideration).

Here is the raw X, Y, Z data for the entire video.
Code:
``````t[sec],	x [m],	y [m],	z [m],xDot [m/s],yDot [m/s],zDot [m/s], roll [deg]
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7.80,	 1500,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.16,	  0.00, -1.916
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19.50,	 3721,	   16,	 7620,	189.76,	  5.38,	  0.00, -12.822
19.60,	 3740,	   17,	 7620,	189.75,	  5.60,	  0.00, -12.836
19.70,	 3759,	   18,	 7620,	189.74,	  5.83,	  0.00, -12.946
19.80,	 3777,	   18,	 7620,	189.74,	  6.05,	  0.00, -13.040
19.90,	 3796,	   19,	 7620,	189.73,	  6.28,	  0.00, -13.140
20.00,	 3815,	   19,	 7620,	189.72,	  6.51,	  0.00, -13.233
20.10,	 3834,	   20,	 7620,	189.71,	  6.75,	  0.00, -13.453
20.20,	 3853,	   21,	 7620,	189.71,	  6.98,	  0.00, -13.487
20.30,	 3872,	   22,	 7620,	189.70,	  7.22,	  0.00, -13.571
20.40,	 3891,	   22,	 7620,	189.69,	  7.46,	  0.00, -13.587
20.50,	 3910,	   23,	 7620,	189.68,	  7.69,	  0.00, -13.580
20.60,	 3929,	   24,	 7620,	189.67,	  7.93,	  0.00, -13.498
20.70,	 3948,	   25,	 7620,	189.66,	  8.16,	  0.00, -13.381
20.80,	 3967,	   25,	 7620,	189.65,	  8.39,	  0.00, -13.201
20.90,	 3986,	   26,	 7620,	189.64,	  8.62,	  0.00, -13.094
21.00,	 4005,	   27,	 7620,	189.63,	  8.84,	  0.00, -12.889
21.10,	 4024,	   28,	 7620,	189.62,	  9.06,	  0.00, -12.722
21.20,	 4043,	   29,	 7620,	189.61,	  9.28,	  0.00, -12.571
21.30,	 4062,	   30,	 7620,	189.60,	  9.50,	  0.00, -12.475
21.40,	 4081,	   31,	 7620,	189.59,	  9.71,	  0.00, -12.340
21.50,	 4100,	   32,	 7620,	189.58,	  9.92,	  0.00, -12.264
21.60,	 4119,	   33,	 7620,	189.56,	 10.14,	  0.00, -12.200
21.70,	 4138,	   34,	 7620,	189.55,	 10.35,	  0.00, -12.100
21.80,	 4157,	   35,	 7620,	189.54,	 10.56,	  0.00, -12.098
21.90,	 4176,	   36,	 7620,	189.53,	 10.76,	  0.00, -11.988
22.00,	 4195,	   37,	 7620,	189.52,	 10.97,	  0.00, -11.981
22.10,	 4214,	   38,	 7620,	189.51,	 11.18,	  0.00, -11.976
22.20,	 4233,	   40,	 7620,	189.49,	 11.39,	  0.00, -12.010
22.30,	 4252,	   41,	 7620,	189.48,	 11.60,	  0.00, -12.089
22.40,	 4270,	   42,	 7620,	189.47,	 11.81,	  0.00, -12.086
22.50,	 4289,	   43,	 7620,	189.46,	 12.02,	  0.00, -12.068
22.60,	 4308,	   44,	 7620,	189.44,	 12.22,	  0.00, -12.062
22.70,	 4327,	   46,	 7620,	189.43,	 12.44,	  0.00, -12.184
22.80,	 4346,	   47,	 7620,	189.42,	 12.65,	  0.00, -12.182
22.90,	 4365,	   48,	 7620,	189.40,	 12.86,	  0.00, -12.156
23.00,	 4384,	   49,	 7620,	189.39,	 13.07,	  0.00, -12.288
23.10,	 4403,	   51,	 7620,	189.37,	 13.28,	  0.00, -12.268
23.20,	 4422,	   52,	 7620,	189.36,	 13.50,	  0.00, -12.322
23.30,	 4441,	   53,	 7620,	189.34,	 13.71,	  0.00, -12.353
23.40,	 4460,	   55,	 7620,	189.33,	 13.92,	  0.00, -12.372
23.50,	 4479,	   56,	 7620,	189.31,	 14.14,	  0.00, -12.388
23.60,	 4498,	   58,	 7620,	189.29,	 14.36,	  0.00, -12.460
23.70,	 4517,	   59,	 7620,	189.28,	 14.57,	  0.00, -12.452
23.80,	 4536,	   61,	 7620,	189.26,	 14.79,	  0.00, -12.459
23.90,	 4554,	   62,	 7620,	189.24,	 15.00,	  0.00, -12.551
24.00,	 4573,	   64,	 7620,	189.23,	 15.22,	  0.00, -12.569
24.10,	 4592,	   65,	 7620,	189.21,	 15.44,	  0.00, -12.559
24.20,	 4611,	   67,	 7620,	189.19,	 15.66,	  0.00, -12.568
24.30,	 4630,	   68,	 7620,	189.17,	 15.88,	  0.00, -12.648
24.40,	 4649,	   70,	 7620,	189.16,	 16.10,	  0.00, -12.697
24.50,	 4668,	   72,	 7620,	189.14,	 16.32,	  0.00, -12.683
24.60,	 4687,	   73,	 7620,	189.12,	 16.54,	  0.00, -12.673
24.70,	 4706,	   75,	 7620,	189.10,	 16.76,	  0.00, -12.663
24.80,	 4725,	   77,	 7620,	189.08,	 16.98,	  0.00, -12.701
24.90,	 4744,	   78,	 7620,	189.06,	 17.20,	  0.00, -12.754
25.00,	 4763,	   80,	 7620,	189.04,	 17.42,	  0.00, -12.747
25.10,	 4781,	   82,	 7620,	189.02,	 17.64,	  0.00, -12.781
25.20,	 4800,	   84,	 7620,	189.00,	 17.86,	  0.00, -12.860
25.30,	 4819,	   85,	 7620,	188.98,	 18.08,	  0.00, -12.875
25.40,	 4838,	   87,	 7620,	188.96,	 18.31,	  0.00, -12.944
25.50,	 4857,	   89,	 7620,	188.93,	 18.53,	  0.00, -12.927
25.60,	 4876,	   91,	 7620,	188.91,	 18.76,	  0.00, -12.948
25.70,	 4895,	   93,	 7620,	188.89,	 18.98,	  0.00, -13.047
25.80,	 4914,	   95,	 7620,	188.87,	 19.21,	  0.00, -13.051
25.90,	 4933,	   97,	 7620,	188.84,	 19.43,	  0.00, -13.065
26.00,	 4951,	   99,	 7620,	188.82,	 19.66,	  0.00, -13.053
26.10,	 4970,	  101,	 7620,	188.80,	 19.89,	  0.00, -13.035
26.20,	 4989,	  103,	 7620,	188.77,	 20.11,	  0.00, -13.036
26.30,	 5008,	  105,	 7620,	188.75,	 20.34,	  0.00, -13.043
26.40,	 5027,	  107,	 7620,	188.72,	 20.56,	  0.00, -13.023
26.50,	 5046,	  109,	 7620,	188.70,	 20.79,	  0.00, -12.958
26.60,	 5065,	  111,	 7620,	188.68,	 21.01,	  0.00, -12.922
26.70,	 5084,	  113,	 7620,	188.65,	 21.23,	  0.00, -12.918
26.80,	 5102,	  115,	 7620,	188.63,	 21.46,	  0.00, -12.915
26.90,	 5121,	  117,	 7620,	188.60,	 21.68,	  0.00, -12.909
27.00,	 5140,	  120,	 7620,	188.57,	 21.90,	  0.00, -12.928
27.10,	 5159,	  122,	 7620,	188.55,	 22.13,	  0.00, -12.936
27.20,	 5178,	  124,	 7620,	188.52,	 22.35,	  0.00, -12.922
27.30,	 5197,	  126,	 7620,	188.50,	 22.57,	  0.00, -12.932
27.40,	 5216,	  129,	 7620,	188.47,	 22.80,	  0.00, -12.925
27.50,	 5234,	  131,	 7620,	188.44,	 23.02,	  0.00, -12.924
27.60,	 5253,	  133,	 7620,	188.41,	 23.24,	  0.00, -12.938
27.70,	 5272,	  136,	 7620,	188.39,	 23.47,	  0.00, -12.912
27.80,	 5291,	  138,	 7620,	188.36,	 23.69,	  0.00, -12.916
27.90,	 5310,	  140,	 7620,	188.33,	 23.91,	  0.00, -12.908
28.00,	 5329,	  143,	 7620,	188.30,	 24.14,	  0.00, -13.035
28.10,	 5347,	  145,	 7620,	188.27,	 24.36,	  0.00, -13.043
28.20,	 5366,	  148,	 7620,	188.24,	 24.59,	  0.00, -13.043
28.30,	 5385,	  150,	 7620,	188.22,	 24.81,	  0.00, -13.047
28.40,	 5404,	  153,	 7620,	188.19,	 25.04,	  0.00, -13.114
28.50,	 5423,	  155,	 7620,	188.16,	 25.27,	  0.00, -13.133
28.60,	 5441,	  158,	 7620,	188.12,	 25.49,	  0.00, -13.128
28.70,	 5460,	  160,	 7620,	188.09,	 25.72,	  0.00, -13.177
28.80,	 5479,	  163,	 7620,	188.06,	 25.95,	  0.00, -13.215
28.90,	 5498,	  165,	 7620,	188.03,	 26.18,	  0.00, -13.207
29.00,	 5517,	  168,	 7620,	188.00,	 26.41,	  0.00, -13.300
29.10,	 5536,	  171,	 7620,	187.97,	 26.64,	  0.00, -13.304
29.20,	 5554,	  173,	 7620,	187.93,	 26.87,	  0.00, -13.343
29.30,	 5573,	  176,	 7620,	187.90,	 27.10,	  0.00, -13.321
29.40,	 5592,	  179,	 7620,	187.87,	 27.33,	  0.00, -13.339
29.50,	 5611,	  182,	 7620,	187.84,	 27.56,	  0.00, -13.347
29.60,	 5629,	  184,	 7620,	187.80,	 27.79,	  0.00, -13.425
29.70,	 5648,	  187,	 7620,	187.77,	 28.02,	  0.00, -13.417
29.80,	 5667,	  190,	 7620,	187.73,	 28.25,	  0.00, -13.426
29.90,	 5686,	  193,	 7620,	187.70,	 28.48,	  0.00, -13.426
30.00,	 5705,	  196,	 7620,	187.66,	 28.71,	  0.00, -13.430
30.10,	 5723,	  199,	 7620,	187.63,	 28.94,	  0.00, -13.324
30.20,	 5742,	  202,	 7620,	187.59,	 29.17,	  0.00, -13.351
30.30,	 5761,	  205,	 7620,	187.56,	 29.40,	  0.00, -13.314
30.40,	 5780,	  207,	 7620,	187.52,	 29.63,	  0.00, -13.331
30.50,	 5798,	  210,	 7620,	187.48,	 29.86,	  0.00, -13.328
30.60,	 5817,	  213,	 7620,	187.45,	 30.09,	  0.00, -13.329
30.70,	 5836,	  217,	 7620,	187.41,	 30.32,	  0.00, -13.342
30.80,	 5855,	  220,	 7620,	187.37,	 30.55,	  0.00, -13.338
30.90,	 5873,	  223,	 7620,	187.34,	 30.78,	  0.00, -13.333
31.00,	 5892,	  226,	 7620,	187.30,	 31.01,	  0.00, -13.324
31.10,	 5911,	  229,	 7620,	187.26,	 31.23,	  0.00, -13.264
31.20,	 5929,	  232,	 7620,	187.22,	 31.46,	  0.00, -13.236
31.30,	 5948,	  235,	 7620,	187.18,	 31.69,	  0.00, -13.233
31.40,	 5967,	  238,	 7620,	187.15,	 31.92,	  0.00, -13.229
31.50,	 5986,	  242,	 7620,	187.11,	 32.14,	  0.00, -13.234
31.60,	 6004,	  245,	 7620,	187.07,	 32.37,	  0.00, -13.242
31.70,	 6023,	  248,	 7620,	187.03,	 32.60,	  0.00, -13.253
31.80,	 6042,	  251,	 7620,	186.99,	 32.83,	  0.00, -13.258
31.90,	 6060,	  255,	 7620,	186.95,	 33.05,	  0.00, -13.321
32.00,	 6079,	  258,	 7620,	186.91,	 33.28,	  0.00, -13.322
32.10,	 6098,	  261,	 7620,	186.87,	 33.51,	  0.00, -13.338
32.20,	 6116,	  265,	 7620,	186.83,	 33.74,	  0.00, -13.333
32.30,	 6135,	  268,	 7620,	186.79,	 33.97,	  0.00, -13.337
32.40,	 6154,	  272,	 7620,	186.74,	 34.20,	  0.00, -13.427
32.50,	 6172,	  275,	 7620,	186.70,	 34.43,	  0.00, -13.422
32.60,	 6191,	  278,	 7620,	186.66,	 34.66,	  0.00, -13.437
32.70,	 6210,	  282,	 7620,	186.62,	 34.89,	  0.00, -13.439
32.80,	 6228,	  285,	 7620,	186.57,	 35.12,	  0.00, -13.436
32.90,	 6247,	  289,	 7620,	186.53,	 35.35,	  0.00, -13.427
33.00,	 6266,	  293,	 7620,	186.49,	 35.58,	  0.00, -13.429
33.10,	 6284,	  296,	 7620,	186.44,	 35.81,	  0.00, -13.515
33.20,	 6303,	  300,	 7620,	186.40,	 36.04,	  0.00, -13.517
33.30,	 6322,	  303,	 7620,	186.35,	 36.28,	  0.00, -13.667
33.40,	 6340,	  307,	 7620,	186.31,	 36.52,	  0.00, -14.088
33.50,	 6359,	  311,	 7620,	186.26,	 36.77,	  0.00, -14.565
33.60,	 6378,	  314,	 7620,	186.21,	 37.03,	  0.00, -15.149
33.70,	 6396,	  318,	 7620,	186.15,	 37.30,	  0.00, -15.790
33.80,	 6415,	  322,	 7620,	186.10,	 37.58,	  0.00, -16.453
33.90,	 6433,	  326,	 7620,	186.03,	 37.88,	  0.00, -17.288``````

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#### Mick West

Staff member
For a 3D recreation, I think you want to use ground speed. That is TAS + Wind. We don't know the wind speed or direction, but we could figure it out based on the video @igoddard posted stabilized to the waves (conveniently at sea level!).
Be aware there is often a huge variation in wind speed and direction with altitude. Escpecially compared to ground level winds.

Here's an actual, if somewhat contrived, example that shows you how big the range can be:

At sea level the speed are low and variable. In the spot indicated in the North Atlantic at ground level they are 10 km/h from 100° (East). At 500 hPa (around 18,000 feet) the wind is 124 km/h at 225°

So that's around 70 knots of error if you were to take the ground wind speed for the mid-altitudes wind speeds.

And we know this is almost certainly just a few minutes before the GIMAL video in which they say:

So there's a VAST potential for error in making assumptions about the wind.

#### Justin Shaw

##### New Member
Be aware there is often a huge variation in wind speed and direction with altitude. Escpecially compared to ground level winds.

Here's an actual, if somewhat contrived, example that shows you how big the range can be:

At sea level the speed are low and variable. In the spot indicated in the North Atlantic at ground level they are 10 km/h from 100° (East). At 500 hPa (around 18,000 feet) the wind is 124 km/h at 225°

So that's around 70 knots of error if you were to take the ground wind speed for the mid-altitudes wind speeds.

And we know this is almost certainly just a few minutes before the GIMAL video in which they say:

So there's a VAST potential for error in making assumptions about the wind.

Agreed @Mick West . What I meant was that we use the waves as a fixed reference and use the az/el rates to compute ground speed. I was not suggesting that we assume ground wind speed is the same as altitude wind speed.

#### Getoffthisplanet

##### Active Member
Here is the raw X, Y, Z data for the entire video.

Oh, wow. Thanks. I was sort of wondering last night if that was possible.

As soon as I figure out the scripting syntax to get this data into 3ds Max, this would be preferable to using your "blue line trajectory" as a motion path and manually keying in altitude across all 1000+ frames.

#### Tom Mellett

##### New Member
What Gary Nolan seems to be saying is that if the object were at 12,500 feet altitude, both it and the surface of the sea could not be in focus at the same time, because the object would be too close to the camera and the sea would be too far. So, because they are both in focus, the object must be at a lower altitude.

Let's find out.

Thank you so much for this analysis. I brought it to Garry Nolan’s attention of the TTSA FB page and he has become convinced that you are right. Here is our exchange:

#### Simeon Hein

##### New Member
Absent the fighter pilot's testimony, is there any evidence from the video alone that the "object" isn't a shadow on the ocean surface from a plane in the area. Would this explain why it's giving off no heat?

#### Mick West

Staff member
Here's the track of the camera angles dot. The red point indicate where it started to track smoothly.

Here's a graph of angle and radius (radius = distance from screen center)

A "saccade" is a rapid movement of the camera - when it moves so fast it blurs out the background. There are three, which are visible in the graph.

Of note here is that before the tracking actually starts (at "Acquire") the angle is still moving at a constant rate - this is because it is "ground stabilized", which means it attempts to point at a fixed region of the ground based on the angles of the camera and the altitude. This appears to result in the slight drift observed at the start, however the camera is still tracking relatively fast to compensate for the motion on the jet.

Update spreadsheet attached, dot tracking on second page.

EDIT: maybe the drift is because the system is using TAS and not ground speed?

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#### Mick West

Staff member
Ground stabilization described here:
The "snowplow" pointing would result in a constant blur of the ocean surface, too fast to be useful at this FOV and speed.

#### Mick West

Staff member
Absent the fighter pilot's testimony, is there any evidence from the video alone that the "object" isn't a shadow on the ocean surface from a plane in the area. Would this explain why it's giving off no heat?
It's not a shadow as: A) it's detected by radar. B) shadow would not effect emitted IR from water. C) it's moving independently of the plane.

#### Mick West

Staff member
Note in my graph above, the "dot angle" starts matching the displayed camera angle (35°) but then varies, at the end it's 67° vs. the displayed 58°. So it's not exactly the same thing. Perhaps the difference relates to the bank angle? At the start the jet is pretty level, and at the end it's banked 20 degrees. So maybe the displayed angle (58°) is relative to the plane of the jet, and the other is relative to the horizontal plane?

#### Robert Kellogg

##### New Member
Does the horizon look warmer because it's actually warmer, or for the same reason it looks red during a total solar eclipse? The atmosphere scatters the blue light coming from the distant horizon, while the red and infrared light is more likely to reach you.
I posted papers on Black body radiation. It is back on page 2 or 3. I can't remember post number.

#### Mick West

Staff member
Here's a graph of angle and radius (radius = distance from screen center)

The "radius" angle is related to the aircraft bank angle. If I overlay the bank angle on the above graph:

We can see the where the bank angle is slowly decreasing towards the end, the indicator angle is decreasing - presumably because the object is getting closer.

One could subtract the two, with care. Exercise for the reader!

#### Getoffthisplanet

##### Active Member
Here is the raw X, Y, Z data for the entire video.

Code:
``````t[sec],	x [m],	y [m],	z [m],xDot [m/s],yDot [m/s],zDot [m/s], roll [deg]
0.00,	   19,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.03,	  0.00, 1.528``````

Would it be too much effort for you to isolate just the X,Y,Z data, something like this: 19,-0,7620?

Otherwise, no big deal. I've just got some copy/paste'ing to do.

Also, your data is every 10th of a second? Is it possible to calculate X,Y,Z for each of the 1029 frames and in feet?

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#### Simeon Hein

##### New Member
It's not a shadow as: A) it's detected by radar. B) shadow would not effect emitted IR from water. C) it's moving independently of the plane.
OK, thanks. That makes sense.

#### Justin Shaw

##### New Member
Would it be too much effort for you to isolate just the X,Y,Z data, something like this: 19,-0,7620?

Otherwise, no big deal. I've just got some copy/paste'ing to do.

Also, your data is every 10th of a second? Is it possible to calculate X,Y,Z for each of the 1029 frames and in feet?
As you requested:

Code:
``````x [m], y [m], z [m]
6.33,	  -0.00,	7620.00
12.66,	  -0.00,	7620.00
18.98,	  -0.00,	7620.00
25.31,	  -0.00,	7620.00
31.64,	  -0.00,	7620.00
37.97,	  -0.01,	7620.00
44.29,	  -0.01,	7620.00
50.62,	  -0.01,	7620.00
56.95,	  -0.01,	7620.00
63.28,	  -0.02,	7620.00
69.61,	  -0.02,	7620.00
75.93,	  -0.02,	7620.00
82.26,	  -0.03,	7620.00
88.59,	  -0.03,	7620.00
94.92,	  -0.03,	7620.00
101.25,	  -0.04,	7620.00
107.57,	  -0.04,	7620.00
113.90,	  -0.05,	7620.00
120.23,	  -0.05,	7620.00
126.56,	  -0.06,	7620.00
132.88,	  -0.06,	7620.00
139.21,	  -0.07,	7620.00
145.54,	  -0.08,	7620.00
151.87,	  -0.08,	7620.00
158.20,	  -0.09,	7620.00
164.52,	  -0.10,	7620.00
170.85,	  -0.10,	7620.00
177.18,	  -0.11,	7620.00
183.51,	  -0.12,	7620.00
189.84,	  -0.13,	7620.00
196.16,	  -0.14,	7620.00
202.49,	  -0.14,	7620.00
208.82,	  -0.15,	7620.00
215.15,	  -0.16,	7620.00
221.47,	  -0.17,	7620.00
227.80,	  -0.18,	7620.00
234.13,	  -0.19,	7620.00
240.46,	  -0.20,	7620.00
246.79,	  -0.21,	7620.00
253.11,	  -0.22,	7620.00
259.44,	  -0.23,	7620.00
265.77,	  -0.24,	7620.00
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1999.59,	  -0.43,	7620.00
2005.92,	  -0.38,	7620.00
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#### Getoffthisplanet

##### Active Member
As you requested:

Perfect.

I thought I might run into trouble using meters, but maybe not.

Again, thank you.

#### Agent K

##### Senior Member
Note in my graph above, the "dot angle" starts matching the displayed camera angle (35°) but then varies, at the end it's 67° vs. the displayed 58°. So it's not exactly the same thing. Perhaps the difference relates to the bank angle? At the start the jet is pretty level, and at the end it's banked 20 degrees. So maybe the displayed angle (58°) is relative to the plane of the jet, and the other is relative to the horizontal plane?

Is it the LOS Cue?
It sure does not behave that way in the Gimbal video. The dot moves up even though the elevation angle doesn't change.

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#### Kaen

##### Member
Is it the LOS Cue?
It sure does not behave that way in the Gimbal video. The dot moves up even though the elevation angle doesn't change.

I have the feeling that the angles in the ATFLIR display are defined with respect to a reference plane that stays horizontal independent of the roll angle of the jet, while the LOS Cue does take the roll angle into account, i.e., it is a LOS Cue as seen from the cockpit.

Reasons for this feeling: The height of the object stays constant if you assume a reference plane that stays horizontal independent of the roll angle of the jet, and the horizontal angle in the display does not seem to shift much when the plane starts banking.
The LOS Cue, however, does seem to respond to a banking manoeuvre.

#### Justin Shaw

##### New Member
Reasons for this feeling: The height of the object stays constant if you assume a reference plane that stays horizontal independent of the roll angle of the jet, and the horizontal angle in the display does not seem to shift much when the plane starts banking.
I concur. I used true horizontal in my calculations after observing the same.

#### jarlrmai

##### Senior Member
Thank you so much for this analysis. I brought it to Garry Nolan’s attention of the TTSA FB page and he has become convinced that you are right. Here is our exchange:
To be honest the focus thing is a red herring, the height of the plane the angle of the ATFLIR and the radar range are all incompatible with the object being just above the surface. This is simple trigonometry and requires no deep understanding of optics.

#### Simeon Hein

##### New Member
To be honest the focus thing is a red herring, the height of the plane the angle of the ATFLIR and the radar range are all incompatible with the object being just above the surface. This is simple trigonometry and requires no deep understanding of optics.
Can you explain your calculations a little further? What's your estimate of the height of the object?

#### Mick West

Staff member
Can you explain your calculations a little further? What's your estimate of the height of the object?
The basic math is in the first post.
I'm assuming RNG is a straight line, not horizontal distance, then that gives us:
4.4*sin(26 degrees) = 1.92 nautical miles below the plane
3.4*sin(35 degrees) = 1.95 nautical miles

So assuming those numbers are more or less accurate then it's an object that's around 13,000 feet ((25000 feet) - (1.95 nautical miles)) in altitude, viewed from a jet at 25,000 feet. Basically it's half way between the jet and the ocean surface.

#### Tom Mellett

##### New Member
Can you explain your calculations a little further? What's your estimate of the height of the object?
Hello Simeon,

Here’s a 2-D graph showing the simple trigonometry used to determine the altitude of the object.

#### Tom Mellett

##### New Member
To be honest the focus thing is a red herring, the height of the plane the angle of the ATFLIR and the radar range are all incompatible with the object being just above the surface. This is simple trigonometry and requires no deep understanding of optics.
Yes, I totally agree with you, but there are definite reasons beyond the scope of this thread why Garry Nolan was defending the calculations of Bruce Maccabee which mandate the object had to be flying at a speed of 360 knots only 100 ft. above the surface of the ocean. (It involves tracing the “provenance” of TTSA which goes through AATIP directly back to Bob Bigelow and his NIDS project for which Bruce Maccabee wrote an article in 1996 about the “impossible” high-speed maneuvers of UFOs.)
https://web.archive.org/web/20070210181457/http://www.nidsci.org/articles/maccabee/acceleration.html
Now read the TTSA page announcing the release of this video.
Garry’s last hope to salvage the TTSA narrative about this object’s behavior was to seize on and cling to the “focal plane” issue, but to Garry’s credit, he is enough of a good scientist to be convinced by the “depth of field” consideration and realize now that the object could be at 13,000 feet and still be in acceptable focus.

I have yet to hear back from him, but I’m sure he is at least contemplating the necessity of advising TTSA that they once again must make a public admission of over-hyping their claims from strong confirmation bias that this object is a bona fide UFO under conscious control of a superior technological intelligence and not a supremely mundane object like a migratory bird or a weather balloon.

How best to sum up TTSA and their public image? I’ve grown fond of saying: Tom DeLonge is the Donald Trump of Disclosure.

#### Simeon Hein

##### New Member
Thanks guys for explaining the math again: that graph is extremely helpful Tom. You've really convinced me that it's a relatively slow-moving object of some kind miles up from the water.

#### Kaen

##### Member
Yes, I totally agree with you, but there are definite reasons beyond the scope of this thread why Garry Nolan was defending the calculations of Bruce Maccabee which mandate the object had to be flying at a speed of 360 knots only 100 ft. above the surface of the ocean.

Hi Tom, can you provide a link to Bruce's calculations? Or copy-paste them here?

Thanks!

#### Mick West

Staff member
Here's a striking illustration of the variation in wind speed and direction from the surface up

All four at at the same position, just of the coast of San Francisco, California.

At the surface, it's 15 km/h from the east (90°)
at 700mb (about 10,000 feet) it's 15 km/h from the south (185°)
At 500mb (about 18,000 feet) it's 70 km/h from the west (260°)
at 250mb (34,000 feet) it's 165 km/h from the west (270°).

#### Tom Mellett

##### New Member
Hi Tom, can you provide a link to Bruce's calculations? Or copy-paste them here?

Thanks!
OK, I finally tracked down the Maccabee calculations, actually just a revision of his original calculations which he sent to someone on the TTSA FB group who then relayed that text to me.

#### Tom Mellett

##### New Member
A new article out by Billy Cox at De Void on the underwhelming rollouts of TTSA. But he really needs to be informed by the Metabunk crew here that TTSA is doing more than dragging their feet; they are making gross and embarrassing errors in analyzing the behavior of the object. He links to a Popular Mechanics article about the 3rd video but they make no calculations of the object speed or altitude!

http://devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/15641/ttsa-needs-new-game-plan

#### Kaen

##### Member
OK, I finally tracked down the Maccabee calculations, actually just a revision of his original calculations which he sent to someone on the TTSA FB group who then relayed that text to me.

Thanks! I think a big chunk of the 330 knots may be due to the speed of the jet combined with the parallax effect. The ATFLIR is 'locked' to a piece of the ocean while the jet speed is 250 knots. An object halfway the jet and the ocean would cross the small FOV pretty fast, even if it was stationary.

#### jarlrmai

##### Senior Member
This is why getting the trigonometry height calculation out there as a key part of debate, any speed calcs based on a low height are incorrect as the height cannot be low and the math to work out the height is based entirely on information in the FLIR overlay (no assumptions reasonable or otherwise) and simple trigonometry which is taught in high school. making an assumption that the object is just above the ocean leads to flaws.

That statement is interesting as it reveals what they believe the FOV to be.

#### Tom Mellett

##### New Member
This is why getting the trigonometry height calculation out there as a key part of debate, any speed calcs based on a low height are incorrect as the height cannot be low and the math to work out the height is based entirely on information in the FLIR overlay (no assumptions reasonable or otherwise) and simple trigonometry which is taught in high school. making an assumption that the object is just above the ocean leads to flaws.

That statement is interesting as it reveals what they believe the FOV to be.
Thank you, @Kaen and @jarlrmai . Would you say then that BM’s speed calculations are correct, given his assumption that the object was so close to the ocean surface that parallax was not taken into account?

Then what would BM have calculated as the speed of the object IF he had used the correct parallax angle from an object at 13,000 ft altitude? As opposed to 100 ft. Altitude?

A better way of saying it, is what Parallax Angle did BM use and what Parallax angle did MB (Metabunk) use?

I’d like to be able to present the results to Garry Nolan and the TTSA FB group in as simple and concise a way as possible, and this seems to be another analysis that would use simple trig.

Could someone put together a graphic that would utilize “Parallax Scrolling” for both the BM and MB calculations to show what’s going on and thus vividly illustrate the discrepancy?

And, assuming BM’s calculations are correct, apart from the parallax issue, I’d like to see this result at the end

Therefore BM’s calculations of the object speed given his parallax angle is 380 kn
while MB’s calculation with their parallax angle gives _____ kn.

#### Kaen

##### Member
Thank you, @Kaen and @jarlrmai . Would you say then that BM’s speed calculations are correct, given his assumption that the object was so close to the ocean surface that parallax was not taken into account?

Then what would BM have calculated as the speed of the object IF he had used the correct parallax angle from an object at 13,000 ft altitude? As opposed to 100 ft. Altitude?

A better way of saying it, is what Parallax Angle did BM use and what Parallax angle did MB (Metabunk) use?

I’d like to be able to present the results to Garry Nolan and the TTSA FB group in as simple and concise a way as possible, and this seems to be another analysis that would use simple trig.

Could someone put together a graphic that would utilize “Parallax Scrolling” for both the BM and MB calculations to show what’s going on and thus vividly illustrate the discrepancy?

And, assuming BM’s calculations are correct, apart from the parallax issue, I’d like to see this result at the end

Therefore BM’s calculations of the object speed given his parallax angle is 380 kn
while MB’s calculation with their parallax angle gives _____ kn.

No trigonometry needed, just ratios.

Bruce did use the right object range, but forgot to compensate for the virtual speed that the object has due to the parallax effect.

The picture shows how the parallax effect causes a stationary object at altitude h1 to have a virtual speed as sea level of h1 x Vjet/h2. Here, Vjet is the jet’s true (ground) speed and the jet is at altitude h1+h2.

Bruce did not use this speed, but calculated an equivalent speed at the object’s altitude h1. The parallax effect will result in a (virtual, due to parallax) calculated speed for a stationary object of: Vjet x h1/(h1+h2).

The CAS (Calibrated Air Speed) of the jet is 250 knots. This results in a TAS (True Air Speed) of 370 knots at 25.000 feet. The jet’s ground speed Vjet equals TAS + wind speed. Wind speed is the great unknown here (see posts above), so we have to make an assumption.

If we assume 70 knots wind speed, so Vjet = 440 knots, a stationary object at 13.000 feet would already have a virtual calculated speed of 440 x 13.000/25.000 = 230 knots. So it already gets 230 knots for free, without having to do anything. This only leaves 100 knots for the speed of the object itself, which is in the same ballpark as the calculations done for the video part where the object was locked by the ATFLIR.

#### Agent K

##### Senior Member
It's nice to have the range to the "UFO" for once. In the Nimitz "tic tac" encounter, I speculated that the tic tac was a weather balloon, and the pilot, David Fravor, overestimated the range to it and thought it was "mirroring" him by staying on the opposite side of a circle that his jet was tracing, when the tic tac was actually staying in the center of the circle.

#### Kaen

##### Member
It's nice to have the range to the "UFO" for once. In the Nimitz "tic tac" encounter, I speculated that the tic tac was a weather balloon, and the pilot, David Fravor, overestimated the range to it and thought it was "mirroring" him by staying on the opposite side of a circle that his jet was tracing, when the tic tac was actually staying in the center of the circle.

I don't think a balloon fits the description in the event log:

Fravor's narrative of these events:
A balloon would not be able to outrun an F18. Unfortunately the FLIR1 video does not show any unusual manoeuvre or speed, though it does seem to show an object resembling a capsule.

#### Mick West

Staff member
I don't think a balloon fits the description in the event log:
The question is if the event log fits the objective events.

Here's a theory: occasionally, over the course of a decade, a pilot will lose situational awareness, but not realize it, and then later write down what he recalled observing. Occasionally this will coincide with ghost returns on a ship's radar, or some other event.

The absolute rejection of this entirely plausible theory is the basis for some interpretations of these videos. This rejection is based on a misplaced deification of the observations skills of people who are still actually human.

But in the current (GO FAST) video, and the GIMBAL video, we don't even have that. We just have a video of some pilots having fun locking onto random stuff they can't immediately identify.

In the NIMIZ (tic-tac) video we don't have that either. Fravor's recollection is not of the events shown in the video, and really should be treated as separate.

But this is the GO FAST thread.

#### jarlrmai

##### Senior Member
Just to let you know I've been working on recreating the GO FAST video in Blender, It's amazing how similar to the video a 2 meter object at the ranges in the video looks in Blender through a square 1.5 degree FOV camera against a simulated ocean textured background. Also a brief animation of the camera moving in the forward axis only while tracking a stationary object exhibits a noticeable parallax effect.

When assuming how the ATFLIR camera tracks is there anything I should be taking in to account? Can I discount the roll of the aircraft as the camera compensates and translate the camera mount in the x,y,z only?

#### Tom Mellett

##### New Member
Hello @Kaen ! Thank you so much for that diagram above. It is really helpful to explain parallax effect to those unfamiliar with it.

However, before I ask you questions I have about the assumptions made in the diagram, I would like to drop back and punt because I just discovered on FB Bruce Maccabee’s Original calculations made on March 9. (You operated only from his revised calculations dated March 12.) Here is the text of his original calculations. Does it give you any more insight into his process? It looks like his original calculations were more in line with yours, but then I suppose he revised his calculations because it wasn’t fitting the original narrative of TTSA that the object must be moving fast 380 Kn at a low altitude of 100 ft)

#### jarlrmai

##### Senior Member
Sounds like he did some good work there.

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