santatiger
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Camera angles make-up/styling and lighting....... and maybes a little plastic surgery..... you've all seen it done already in the movies.......
Debunked: Foley's Sister Katie Foley vs Lanza's Friend Alex Israel [Not the Same Person]
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Wedge
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I'm sorry but, adding another unsupported claim to your list of unsupported claims, in no way proves or supports your position. It's akin to making up words and asserting their meaning and that everyone knows that made up word means what you assert.
Knittingdebunk
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I was browsing the site and noticed this topic and decided to post in it, mainly because I had heard of this sort of thing, but from a different angle. It was a person who posted a ton of pictures from brown haired women as 'proof' of the faking of sandy hook, most pictures being grainy and obviously not high quality. Basically is was a woman who had brown hair shown to be on the phone crying, and more generally like that. All I commented on was the 'these obviously are not the same woman' just by virtue of LOOKING at them.
Analyst
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And therein lies the problem in these 'actor' conspiracies, your average person would not identify most of them as being the same person, despite similarities in hair colouring or basic face shape, in fact in many cases the assertion seems quite ludicrous.
Whether those who originally make these claims actually suffer from face-blindness (prosopagnosia) or not is debatable, but some who propagate this stuff just seem to be surfing the wave of chaos, that is their world view. Knock down this point and they'll just move onto other 'evidence'.
Whether those who originally make these claims actually suffer from face-blindness (prosopagnosia) or not is debatable, but some who propagate this stuff just seem to be surfing the wave of chaos, that is their world view. Knock down this point and they'll just move onto other 'evidence'.
And that employs a similar trick to seen here - showing the person with the same facial expression. If it's not a neutral expression, then that becomes the prominent similarity, and in a small photo it makes them look the same.
In larger photos, with a more neutral expression, it becomes more obvious they are different people, even if you are a bit face blind.
Knittingdebunk
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I found the picture just googling it, and I have to say yes. People ARE face blind completely.
Unless of course someone underwent plastic surgery and gained and lost pounds of course. Got a tan, moved their eye sockets around. I mean, really, REALLY? I am not that good with faces, I thought for the longest time someone was someone else and recently learned that wasn't so, but here. I don't see the same person at all.
I agree. And women who get nose jobs usually make the nose narrower. If this was the same person she did the opposite. She wouldn't likely make her nose wider and I don't know if a surgeon would or could do that.
Taylor
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I will say I try not to get into conspiracy theories but these two women definitely look alike. The one picture with Alex Israel she clearly has makeup on and in the Katie Foley picture she is wearing little to no makeup..also there is a such thing called contouring makeup..if you research it you will see you that contouring can change appearance..you can make your nose, eyes, cheeks, chin, lips look thin, full etc.. I won't assume they are the same but they do look the same..
Taylor
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Just a few pictures to show what contouring makeup can do..cause I'm sure if I would have done a side by side of each females before and after most of y'all would have thought they were not the same females..as you can see you can change appearance without plastic surgery..so it is possible this is the same person..
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deirdre
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you DID do a side by side of each female, and they look like the same person.
even this one doesnt work because we've all seen angelina jolie with and without makeup. she looks like the same girl with a ton of makeup on.
Nose contouring cannot make noses longer, or change any of the distances between identifying points on the face. These are clearly different women, it's impossible for them to be the same without significant surgery.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TKv4AzLr8w
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TKv4AzLr8w
Taylor
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How about get off the defensive side!..you think they don't look alike and I do!..It's apparent you don't have full knowledge on what make-up contouring is..if you did you would know that it definitely could..as it is seen in the photos I posted..
Taylor
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There is a difference between wearing make-up and contouring make-up..contouring is usually done to make the facial features appear slightly different..so trying use Angelina Jolie does not prove a point..
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Contouring makeup cannot change the distances between points, like the eyes, mouth, ears and the tip of the nose. So these are still two different people, as those distances are different.
deirdre
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angelina uses contouring
contouring does not change nose length. or make you look like a totally different person. (as alex and katie do)
are both girls also Mayim?
Analyst
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Whoa! Who's being 'defensive' here?
It seems that all your greater knowledge about make-up seems to give you, is less of an ability to differentiate between two very different looking women.
I'm sure make up can pull off surprises, but it doesn't change the fact that it would take extensive cosmetic surgery, or prosthetics to make one of those women look like the other.
Again this whole subject is simply lunacy fuelled by either wishful thinking, or face blindness IMO.
It seems that all your greater knowledge about make-up seems to give you, is less of an ability to differentiate between two very different looking women.
I'm sure make up can pull off surprises, but it doesn't change the fact that it would take extensive cosmetic surgery, or prosthetics to make one of those women look like the other.
Again this whole subject is simply lunacy fuelled by either wishful thinking, or face blindness IMO.
Rory
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I just tried two pictures of myself - one from age 22 and one from age 32 - and pictriev stated they were "from different persons."
deirdre
Senior Member.
are you saying the alexis interview and Katie interview were 10 years apart? Katie was Aug 2014 and Alexis was Dec 2012.
Trailspotter
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According to Facelection 2016, Alex looks like Hillary Clinton, but Katie looks like Donald Trump. This finally settles the argument 
Rory
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Nope. Just saying that it's not a piece of software I would rely on for anything conclusive.
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