Todd Feinman
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Here is a the link to the live press conference.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_emZmzkTtM
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_emZmzkTtM
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Here is a the link to the live press conference. There's Mr. Grusch!
Alien bodies!I predict we'll hear little of anything new or interesting. Maybe some minor claims here and there. I'll wait till the recording is available so as to skip over the pontificating. Probably in it's own thread.
Bring 'em on!Alien bodies!
I can't, it's classified.Bring 'em on!
Agree. There didn't seem to be anything new discussed in the press conference and it was only 30 minutes long including questions.I'm not sure what the point was.
At 1:00 pm Eastern time today there will be a press conference with whistleblowers, etc.
Source: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vGs3c-N6kmQ&pp=ugUEEgJlbtIHCQk5CwGHKiGM7w%3D%3D&ra=m
Did they mention new possible whistleblowers to testify alien bodies and crafts or they just "hope" some others will come forward?Wow, that was underwhelming
I think (hope) some UFO people did recognize there is still nothing of sufficient interest to be found in the released files so far.They are feeling a bit sidelined as attention shifts to the news "Gish Gallop" of released videos* perhaps, so needed to get themselves back in front of the cameras?
*I am not accusing the government of a Gish Gallop by intent, but that has been something of the unintended effect. Dump a bunch of files, the first handful get debunked, the Big UFO folks say "Well, those were the obvious ones, when will you debunk the rest of them????"
2. How many recovered craft? (Grusch, Q&A)External Quote:I certainly don't have the compendium. It's a continuum from [corporeal bipedal] type life to you know what I would consider like sentient [plasma] life, but there are there are several that the US government is aware of.
3. The Varginha beings were flown to the US (Fox)External Quote:Quite quite quite a few, several dozen. So that's uh an ongoing uh list. So can't give you an exact number because I I don't even have I didn't even have full access to that information.
Rebelo was Defence Minister 2015–16, not in 1996External Quote:The case occurred in [Varginha], Brazil in 1996 and involves dozens of firsthand reports of UAP and direct contact with living intelligent non-human beings who, according to multiple Brazilian witnesses, were flown out of Brazil to the United States in January of 1996. Recently, the former Brazilian [Minister] of Defense, Aldo [Rebelo], confirmed the incident occurred and stated, "If the US disclosed information on this case, then we in Brazil could do the same."
5. The Tom Clancy dead drop (Burlison)External Quote:...of congressional intelligence and defense committees, Kirk McConnell, who is standing here today in the back, he was present in classified settings when highly credible sources briefed senators, including Marco Rubio, about recovered nonhuman bodies.
6. Bin Laden, Area 51, and the helicopter Congress never funded (Moskowitz)External Quote:We've obtained video evidence, including the MQ9 footage of a UAP incident off the coast of Yemen delivered to my office through what can only be described as a Tom Clancy style dead drop.
7. The dead would-be whistleblower (Burlison, then Grusch in Q&A)External Quote:We know about these advanced technology programs. We've know they come out of Area 51. They did when we went to kill Osama bin Laden with an advanced technology helicopter that Congress never funded. There's trillions of dollars missing at the Pentagon.
External Quote:We've sought answers on cases like Matthew Sullivan, a would-be whistleblower whose tragic death deserves far more scrutiny than it has received.
8. Read pages 7 through 16 (Grusch, asked for advice for the public)External Quote:Mr. Sullivan uh was on the legacy uh program. Uh I served on active duty with him in the Air Force, but I don't want to discuss details of his knowledge until the federal investigation is complete.
9. The man bun with more clearance than the president (Burchett)External Quote:I would go watch James Fox's documentaries... there is a declassified 1971 Australian formally classified secret assessment that a couple years ago was put in the Australian National Archives. I encourage people to read page 7 through 16 and that was the nuclear branch chief of the Australian government discussing the US coverup and the involvement of the CIA back in the 70s.
10. Disclosure now runs through Stephen Miller's office (Luna, plus Grusch)External Quote:When I'm sitting in a [SCIF] and some little punk in a man bun tells me the president's on a need-to-know basis, folks, that ought to tell you right there what we're up against... This thing's been covered up at least since 1947.
External Quote:We are grateful to the administration and their effort as well as [Stephen] Miller's office in pursuing the truth.
External Quote:We do have a meeting set up at the White House. The White House is going to play ball on this... if you are an intelligence official or have knowledge of locations of materials... they are considering and I do believe that they are going to be providing immunity permanently um so that people can't be hit with a violation of the espionage act.
Did they mention new possible whistleblowers to testify alien bodies and crafts or they just "hope" some others will come forward?
I think the real national security secrets (adversaries, foreign drones, espionage) won't be in real danger.Nope, the current whistleblowers/leakers were kind of in the background/paraded.
Like I say, it was just a reinforcement that 4 senators are pushing amnesty so others can come forward.
I wonder how they are going to control actual government secrets being released if the amnesty is approved.
Unless these testimonies will be held behind closed doors first. Kind of defeats the purpose...
The briefing was kind of just to communicate the push for amnesty, with some main characters in the background.
Amnesty? For what? Anybody that goes to AARO gets automatic whistle-blower status. We have AARO reports of people saying things that did not check out, but we still don't know officially who they were. Unofficially, we can trace some of these claims to known UFO enthusiasts, but they are still afforded whistle-blower status.
Just speculating here, but besides the need to get out in front of the poor quality videos, the amnesty is strange. Perhaps the heat in the kitchen is getting a bit much? Some of these guys have spent years, if not decades, claiming, including in congressional hearings:
Add to that, Kirkpatrick has repeatedly called out an un-named group as perpetuating these claims and that when whistle-blowers did identified specific UFO programs, it didn't pan out. There were secret programs, but not about UFOs.
- The US government has crashed UFOs that are reverse engineered by the government or select contractors.
- These secret programs are deeply buried and maintained with threats and sometimes outright murder.
- Insiders like Grusch, Elizondo and others know where the bodies and flying saucers are.
- And more recently, certain members of Congress are going to get secret UFO files released.
Amnesty sounds like "Hey I really thought I found a UFO program and I shouldn't get in trouble for trying to point it out. Even if I was wrong"
Are any of those under oath? I don't recall any that produced a material claim that might have been challenged, but only things like "I can't tell you unless we're in a SCIF".Some of these guys have spent years, if not decades, claiming, including in congressional hearings:
External Quote:Grusch: There is a declassified 1971 Australian formally classified secret assessment that a couple years ago was put in the Australian National Archives. I encourage people to read page 7 through 16 and that was the nuclear branch chief of the Australian government discussing the US coverup and the involvement of the CIA back in the 70s.
Here's the link that Grusch made reference to in the conference - pages 7 -16
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=30030606
Amnesty sounds like "Hey I really thought I found a UFO program and I shouldn't get in trouble for trying to point it out. Even if I was wrong"
I think one of these was "immaculate constellation"? Or it had nothing to do with it?
Misidentified or misunderstood real programs.External Quote:
42:36
Every named program I had a bunch of people come in and name classified programs. This program is where the aliens are. This program is where the aliens are. No, that program is where the aliens are.
Um, every one of them uh was either a misidentified authentic, highly sensitive uh aerospace program that they shouldn't or didn't have access to, but somehow heard something, saw something somewhere. Um, uh, and none of those were related to extraterrestrial technologies.
Presumably the laughter and cheering and champagne corks popping in Russia, China, North Korea, Iran et al could be heard in the background.External Quote:
...they are considering and I do believe that they are going to be providing immunity permanently um so that people can't be hit with a violation of the espionage act.