Spielberg's "Disclosure Day" pre-release Speculation

FatPhil said:
That's basically me and LotR. 1/3 of the way, but I did go back for a second attempt, and got 1/6 of the way. 1/3+1/6 = 1/2, so we're about equal.
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I liked the cleverness of the whole Hobbit thing, but got bored when it got all dramatic and went into sci-fi-cum-medieval conflict.

I'm from another era altogether. I read all I could find from Asimov, Heinlein, Bradbury etc in my early teens. When I was a little younger it was the sea stories that enthralled me, cannon fire on a pitching deck, amputated limbs and all. Now I'm an old lady, I still enjoy crime stories, but not the ones with a lot of suspense - bad for my blood pressure!
 
Z.W. Wolf said:
That's what I've been arguing for a long time. There are accounting tricks. The movie loses money, but obviously someone is making money. A conglomerate is paying itself. But moving money to different parts of itself. And the expenses are inflated.
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This is known as "Hollywood Accounting", a well established collection of methods for tax and profit sharing avoidance.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-l2oFKZNak

Hollywood also plays with state governments, in the same manner as other industries chasing tax incentives and grants.

Article:
Mackinac Center for Public Policy

Stop the Hollywood handouts

Film production incentives always flop

For years, movie producers have played states against each other and reaped billions in taxpayer money. The smart strategy for state lawmakers is to stop playing.

... a clear-eyed assessment demonstrates that states lose. Georgia auditors found that the tax revenue the state receives from the subsidized film industry amounts to less than a third of what it spends on the subsidies—even when counting the tax revenue from the people who sell to the people who sell to film producers. New York auditors found similar losses in their state.

This grant-seeking business model extends across national boundaries:

Article:

Australian taxpayers footed half the bill for Hollywood dud Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga

A huge chunk of the budget for Chris Hemsworth's latest box office flop was picked up by Australian taxpayers, it can be revealed.

Precisely how much public money went towards the latest instalment in the Mad Max franchise is unclear, because the figures are kept secret by Screen New South Wales and Screen Australia.

But experts put the bill in the vicinity of at least $183 million – all for the privilege of having the George Miller-directed action film shot on Australian soil.

"It's incredibly expensive and what value the Australian public get for that cost is questionable," Professor Kevin Sanson, head of the School of Communication at Queensland University of Technology, told news.com.au.

It's easy to joke "Hollywood accounting is more creative than its blockbuster storylines"! In actuality, it is a lazy "If you can get away with it, then just keep doing it" business model. The same rinse-and-repeat approach that is responsible for the endless production of risk-averse sequels and reboots.
 
A big part of Hollywood accounting isn't even taxes (those are pretty easy for a corporation to dodge anyway) but money owed to talent based on earnings of the project and not the company, and when you're only looking at the project it's easier to hide the fact that some of these expenses are not actually on the project alone.

An old trick from the golden age studios was that if one show needed a train every show used the train. This is smart because getting a train for a few days of filming is expensive and you can spread that cost to several projects... But when it comes time to write checks you don't account it that way.
 
Giddierone said:
Oh this looks...underwhelming.
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It's got Emily Blunt! Cutesy animals and a Thomas Kinkade Master of Light (TM) house! Baddies! A car chase! Crop circles not being made by two eccentric blokes with a rope and a plank!

To quote Maurice in The IT Crowd (series 2, 1), every value I've ever held is being questioned, and I'm loving it.
Um, but I'll probably wait until it's on TV.
 
Giddierone said:
Oh this looks...underwhelming.
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It's not as dreary as the second teaser, but I'm still losing interest in seeing it in the theater.

Among other things, that clicking fake speech creeps me out (it's more suitable for a horror movie) and I don't think I want to hear it in Dolby Surround Sound.
 
JMartJr said:
If the audience does not start laughing when she goes into that "light-language adjacent" glossilalia, I'll be surprised.
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Nice reference to the "light-language " thing.

jdog said:
Among other things, that clicking fake speech creeps me out (it's more suitable for a horror movie) and I don't think I want to hear it in Dolby Surround Sound.
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Apologies for some spelling, but I'm just on a phone with limited service.

Without understanding exactly what's going on in the movie, I remember reading somewhere about ideas around the development of various languages.

IIRC, there's some speculation that the current spoken languages of people like the EDIT: Kung Si actually the !Kung, who are one of the San people from the Kalahari desert region, may be the closest thing there is to a mother language. What they speak is the most similar to an original language. As such, they famously use lots of clicks and pops as phones, or sounds in their language. Often written with a ! To denote these sounds.

So, if aliens are part of our past and/or our development then an ancient form of speaking may include a lot of clicks.

Or it just sounds cool.
 
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NorCal Dave said:
Nice reference to the "light-language " thing.



Apologies for some spelling, but I'm just on a phone with limited service.

Without understanding exactly what's going on in the movie, I remember reading somewhere about ideas around the development of various languages.

IIRC, there's some speculation that the current spoken languages of people like the EDIT: Kung Si actually the !Kung, who are one of the San people from the Kalahari desert region, may be the closest thing there is to a mother language. What they speak is the most similar to an original language. As such, they famously use lots of clicks and pops as phones, or sounds in their language. Often written with a ! To denote these sounds.

So, if aliens are part of our past and/or our development then an ancient form of speaking may include a lot of clicks.

Or it just sounds cool.
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A clicking language is perhaps more useful in open spaces and in activities like hunting and gathering.

So, the newscaster is supposed to be possesed or controlled by an alien entity. Is the language going to be an ancient earth language that the aliens picked up on a previous visit? (God forbid). Or this is the first time aliens have encountered humans and that's all they can do to communicate? Will a group of scientists decode the communication? Will it be a collection of the same old tired tropes? I have a hard time watching this kind of stuff anymore. Especially now. Wish I had the money to make one.
 
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