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  1. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    This is interesting, a video interview of the supposed "FunVax Scientist" (the guy with the DNA tie)

    (Not Dean Hamer, who is a real person who popularized the "God Gene" idea).


    Rather odd that they could get in contact with the scientist, ask him about his super secret world-shattering work, and post it on YouTube, but not get his name.

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  2. Bill

    Bill Senior Member

    Everyone knows that when you are creating a new super-virus you hide the names of the people involved and not the technical information that would be useful in developing an antivirus.
     
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  3. Leighton

    Leighton New Member

    Hi readers,

    The man in the video says:

    "so if someone asked me to design a vaccine"

    Are you guys stating that he is the guy who developed the vaccine?

    He is answering a hypothetical question asked of him: how would he go about the design of a vaccine, such as funvax...

    So he is supposed to be an expert answering questions not the funvax scientist......

    Am I missing something???


    Please explain..

    Thanks.
     
  4. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    He's just an anonymous guy that is being used (knowingly or not) to perpetuate the story.
     
  5. Dan Wilson

    Dan Wilson Senior Member

    According to Carl Zimmer, the "god gene," VMAT2, has been implicated as such from only one unpublished, unreplicated study.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/faith-boosting-genes/

    I, at first glance, would also doubt that one gene could either stop or grant an ability to feel spiritual experiences. I would assume it would be more complex than one gene.
     
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  6. Marin B

    Marin B Active Member


    I'm really impressed that you found the original publication of the brain image. Do you have a program that matches images, or just a lot of patience looking at Google images?
     
  7. Soulfly

    Soulfly Banned Banned

    You can drag an image into https://images.google.com/ and it will find all sites that image is on.
     
  8. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    I did have to crop a bit of the image, but this is literally all I did, a few seconds.
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  9. Marin B

    Marin B Active Member

    I didn't know about that. This alone makes joining this board worth it. Thanks!
     
  10. Egu

    Egu New Member

    I have read the thread, and first I totally believed it was a scam, but then I thought of another possibility: that the fact that the slides are not scientific or fake does not imply that the whole thing did not happen. How about scientist wanting to impress and sell a placebo drug that they know won't work but still the US is wanting to implement it? You see, the fact that the slides are fake... does not mean these are genuine people wanting to make a business off the US administration.
     
  11. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    Yes it does. Otherwise, you've got people trying to scam the Pentagon using an utterly unbelievable story using fake evidence that's trivially easy to debunk. So that all implies it did not happen, especially as nobody was arrested for fraud.
     
  12. Dan Wilson

    Dan Wilson Senior Member

    That would be an enormous waste of time and money if they knew it was a placebo but still wanted to sell it. Are you thinking it would still have an effect as a placebo? In that case, the person taking the drug would have to want to be converted from more fanatic to less fanatic, be aware of what the drug is supposed to do, and be aware that they have received it. It would not make any sense to expect a plan like that to work.
     
  13. MaybeOneGrape

    MaybeOneGrape New Member

    This popped up on twitter again, and forgive me if I'm doing this wrong:

    It seems to me that if there is a "god gene," that is to say a gene that, when expressed, produces behavior akin to religious zealotry, that gene would need to be explained as reproductively advantageous. Now, we can get around this by saying 'individuals expressing this gene have a tendency to rape.' That's, frankly, an ugly interpretation of what we're talking about here. Long before social contracts involving religion-based rape, there would have had to have been a physical advantage to being religious. I think pattern recognition meets that criteria. There is, I think, selective pressure to 'believe' a pattern means something.

    Now, that is not to say that all patterns are significant. But if there were a gene, a tendency, for an individual to consider a rustle of grass being meaningful, being worthwhile of attention, that might mean survival versus predation. And if it's just the wind, well, no harm no foul. But the ones who ignored the rustle of grass, well, we know what happened to them.

    There absolutely is genetic selection pressure, especially during the 200 million years before the emergence of modern humans, to be paranoid, devout, unreasonable conspiracy theorists, because prior performance predicts future success. Jumping at shadows is our bread and butter, friends. It's what got us here.

    Now, in the context of this gem here, none of these "top brass" in the audience asked "what are the side effects."
    No concern at all. That may have been a selective edit, but if I were in that audience the first question in my mind would have been "Professor, you're talking about a communicable virus which disables the human mind from recognizing patterns. What controls have you instituted that allow you to target ONLY religious extremism, and not regular social interaction? Threat detection. The minutia of facial expression. Sir, have you created the autism virus?"

    And then the scientist would be like "gentlemen, I would rather live in a world of Autists, than continue on as such."

    "Harrumph harrumph" they would say, but it would be too late, for the virus had already left Logan INTL an hour before.
     
  14. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    That's because the entire thing is a hoax, a provocative art project. That's probably just a bunch of Ryan Harper's friends.