1. ray34iyf

    ray34iyf New Member

    Figured I'd drop this one here for all to see. G'day 8)

    Now the Lawyers' Committee and AE911Truth are counting on your support so we can work to ensure a full grand jury investigation."


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  2. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    here is their submission/proposal (linked as a PDF). Same old same old stuff.

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  3. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    Emphasis mine. All the attorney has to do is inform the grand jury of the allegation, and given them a recommendation (like: "recommend you investigate" or "recommend you take no action")
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  4. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    I've looked for comparable situations, and the only one I could find was one from Prince fans, wanting a Grand Jury investigation. This was just a few months ago.

    (the Start Tribune link warns of Malware, so I'm linking this secondary source)

    There might be potential confusion here around the word "petition". There's

    1) A list of signatures of a group of people asking for something
    2) A request, which can just come from an individual or organization, without a list of signatures.

    The Prince petition is accompanied by a list of public signatures. The 9/11 Lawyers' petition seems just to be from them as a group.
  5. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    i only super briefly read the amended proposition but based on Halbig's FOIA hearings that i did watch, the word "hearsay" is going to dismiss most of what they are claiming is evidence. The court doesn't accept newspaper accounts or tv shows as evidence/testimony.

    Still I'm glad they finally found lawyers willing to do this for them, they might learn a thing or two about what evidence is.
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  6. Oystein

    Oystein Active Member

    The "Lawyers' Committee for 9/11 Inquiry" also has a signatures-collecting petition on their website: https://lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/grand-jury-petition-supporters/
    This was started on April 09, this year, and now stands at 3098 signatures (half of what the Prince fans accomplished).

    A year ealier, March 12, 2017, they had also started a somewhat less specific petition at change.org: https://www.change.org/p/support-legal-action-on-9-11-at-last
    This stands at 5456 signatures.
    This one also came with a Fundraiser - in 2017, 26 donors donated a total of $1,230 ($4.15 per day), in 2018 so far, the number of donors increased by 7, and donations by $495 ($1.43 per day). That Fundraiser page originally stated a series of goals, beginning with $7,000 short term, but eventually of $800,000! Now, only the "$7,000" target is left :D

    Monthly stats for those two petitions:

    LC_GJP_20181212. LegalActionPetition_20181212.
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  7. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    As of Oct 1 2017 it said:
    So they had already raised $125,000 - presumably from a single rich individual donors like Ed Asner (They say "In June of this year, the Committee received a generous six-figure donation, ")
  8. Oystein

    Oystein Active Member

    Yesterday, AE911Truth announced their own fundraiser for this "Grand Jury Investigation Project", set up on their own domain:

    Today, on the second day, they already claim 240 donors for a total of $23,167. Almost $100 per donor, that is twice as much as I usually see for such fundraisers (the LC911I itself only got slightly more than $50 per donor thus far). I have for a long time suspected AE pimps their fundraisers with own money (stuffing money from left into right pocket).
  9. Oystein

    Oystein Active Member

    Ah ok thanks, I wrote from memory - I apparently misremembered the 700,000 as 800,000, but forgot (or never knew about) the additional "$325,000 through grassroots events and committed individuals" - for a total of $1 million in the first year!?!

    They are raising money through more than one channel, obviously, and the Fundraiser at change.org may be the least significant.