Mendel
Senior Member.
We do.
I suggest you do a site search (upper right corner) on his name. I get 6 pages of results.
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/dr-stephen-greer.4679/ is a good place to discuss this further.
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I suggest you do a site search (upper right corner) on his name. I get 6 pages of results.
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/dr-stephen-greer.4679/ is a good place to discuss this further.
Mauro
Senior Member.
Nobody here thinks ET's can't exist! And welcome!
John J.
Senior Member.
Welcome, it would be good to have some French people.
As an Englishman, your avatar made me smile
Jon101
New Member
Hello All.
I've been a long time lurker here. I was active, twenty years or so ago, in the skeptic community online, being a member of the old JREF, Richard Dawkins site, and various others.
I've more time on my hands these days and lost a bit of the disillusionment with subjects of controversy, (everything was getting very familiar).
Anyway, that's enough of all that.
I've been a long time lurker here. I was active, twenty years or so ago, in the skeptic community online, being a member of the old JREF, Richard Dawkins site, and various others.
I've more time on my hands these days and lost a bit of the disillusionment with subjects of controversy, (everything was getting very familiar).
Anyway, that's enough of all that.
Hello, I have been reading about UFO's for over 50 years. I used to believe this planet had been visited by extraterrestrials, and I suppose many have. After decades of studying many topics and subjects I have come to believe we have never been visited. For the first big thing, there is absolutely zero evidence. In fact, the lack of evidence suggests we have never been visited. Those who say there is evidence have sadly misrepresented information or, in fact, made up information. One reason I don't believe is the size of the universe and the travel distances required for an advanced form of life to get here. Some say there are other dimensions and/or wormholes, but there is no evidence for this - it is pure speculation. Even with the so-called whistle-blowers who claim that we have proof such as crashed UFO's, alien bodies, etc. well, I don't know what their agenda could be. Then there is Dr. Steven Greer who sounds like an intelligent person but only talks and continues to say that full disclosure is in the way. I feel that if we had crashed spacecraft and aliens it would be (and would have been) too big of a secret to keep. How long did the atomic bomb remain secret? Most top scientists don't believe we have been visited. So we are left with lay people who claim anything and everything, but no proof - it's a secret being withheld from the public. The fact is that we want to know who we are and why we are here, but we just don't. In an attempt to understand, people make things up to explain. As for the sightings, some will say most can be explained but a small percentage can't, and that is true. However, to say that the sightings that can't be explained must be an advanced form of extraterrestrial life takes us back to, "Where's the proof?" There are those who make their living promoting the "existence" of alien life, and they surely have an agenda. YouTube has thousands of videos and there are countless podcasts. There will always be a "reason" why full disclosure doesn't happen - it will always be just around the corner. Lastly, I can say the universe was created by imaginary pink elephants. You wouldn't believe me, but you couldn't prove me wrong.
JMartJr
Senior Member.
Welcome! My own view on disclosure is that it has happened, repeatedly, but UFO believers don't like the answer ("We don't have any evidence of anything alien or extraordinary, sorry!) so don't count any of these disclosures... only the one that discloses what is desired will ever count.
EHart72
New Member
I am intrigued by all the drone and UAP activity in the last several months. I just want to know what's out there. I am a teacher of math and science and viewed some of these sightings with skepticism. 10 days ago I had an encounter myself and recorded it. I have been doing a lot of research since then and came across an article in popular mechanics that referenced this site. I would like to post my video and see what you think.
Mendel
Senior Member.
Welcome to Metabunk!
You're very welcome to do that, e.g. in the "Skydentify" subforum. Be sure to include your approximate location at the time (GPS coordinates will do), and the exact date and time of the recording, if possible. The direction in which you were looking would also be useful.
FatPhil
Senior Member.
@Mick West - would it make sense to add some of that advice to the blurb for the subforum? Currently it's this:
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Mendel
Senior Member.
It's in one of the pinned posts there, which I should've simply linked.
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/skydentify-guidelines-for-submitting-photos.2618/
I have been following the UFO/UAP storyline as a fun time suck for years and have joined because of my concern with the creepy - occultish vibe I am getting from the recent swath of whistleblowers and venture profiteers on the subject. I am also concerned with the way in which the government and main stream media are enabling the storyline to gain traction without any verifiable evidence or source validation that I can see. I appreciate what you do here and hope to participate where I can share.
Hi!
I'm Mrs. A. I have been interested in science and sci-fi as far back as I can remember. I am definitely a nerd, but proud! Even though I put myself in the "I want to believe" category, I am a Scully not a Mulder. I was raised fundie and my family vilified Carl Sagan so when I first read Contact, I couldn't understand why quests for understanding are so intimidating for some.
I Hope first contact happens in my lifetime and I would not want to miss any signals that might come ahead of it. When extraterrestrial or interdimentional or whatever kind of intelligence we may meet are science based instead of sci-fi, it will be a beautiful time for humanity. Hopefully we will learn to be kinder by then.
I have never personally had experiences that make me wonder, but I find those stories interesting as well.
I'm Mrs. A. I have been interested in science and sci-fi as far back as I can remember. I am definitely a nerd, but proud! Even though I put myself in the "I want to believe" category, I am a Scully not a Mulder. I was raised fundie and my family vilified Carl Sagan so when I first read Contact, I couldn't understand why quests for understanding are so intimidating for some.
I Hope first contact happens in my lifetime and I would not want to miss any signals that might come ahead of it. When extraterrestrial or interdimentional or whatever kind of intelligence we may meet are science based instead of sci-fi, it will be a beautiful time for humanity. Hopefully we will learn to be kinder by then.
I have never personally had experiences that make me wonder, but I find those stories interesting as well.
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John J.
Senior Member.
I hope so, but our possible analogies for contact leave me worried: When more technologically advanced cultures have met less technologically advanced cultures, the less advanced often suffer (sometimes horrifically, and on a large scale).
Hopefully they will have learned to be kinder than us.
joel_yancey
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Hi all. Long-time Metabunk silent fly on the wall. New user. Also a Stanley Kubrick fan. 31 years old and—to my chagrin—just saw 2001: A Space Odyssey for the first time ~3 years ago. Instantly my favorite movie and has been since. Those effects look better than a lot of modern CGI, and it came out before the first moon landing! Not to mention it's a movie about artificial intelligence, decades before personal computers. And when I say AI I mean AGI not LLMs; I just consider those a neat trick. Had the opportunity to view it with a live orchestra at the Hollywood Bowl. Fan-cam video below. 
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Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu9ThS-xKEw&ab_channel=JoelYancey
.Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu9ThS-xKEw&ab_channel=JoelYancey
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JMartJr
Senior Member.
@joel_yancey , any fan of 2001 is OK in my book! Welcome!
FatPhil
Senior Member.
Yeah, but it's no /A Clockwork Orange/! (But I'm the kinda guy who knows that "Moog" should be pronounced like "rogue", and that that's not the Dutch pronunciation, nor should it be.)
NorCal Dave
Senior Member.
Love me some Costa Rica. Wife and I just got back from our 2nd time there in February. Welcome!
Thanks! I took my family in 2019, the first time I'd been back in 27 years. It was a very different experience with my wife and two young kids in tow, but it was just as beautiful and welcoming as I'd remembered.
Road.Scout
New Member
Hi All,
I'm from Area 51. Just kidding, I live in Vegas which is close enough. Grew up with Art Bell dishing out Southwest lore when he broadcasted from here, back then the content was truly scary. So yes because of that I believe in all kinds of paranormal. I love this site! Found it on a FB comment of Milwaukee UFOs that turned out to be a flock of seagulls. I prefer to share posts to my friends that are substantially true, and not spreading more disinfo. So sites like this are critical. Thank you for all the debunk work you do!
I'm from Area 51. Just kidding, I live in Vegas which is close enough. Grew up with Art Bell dishing out Southwest lore when he broadcasted from here, back then the content was truly scary. So yes because of that I believe in all kinds of paranormal. I love this site! Found it on a FB comment of Milwaukee UFOs that turned out to be a flock of seagulls. I prefer to share posts to my friends that are substantially true, and not spreading more disinfo. So sites like this are critical. Thank you for all the debunk work you do!
NorCal Dave
Senior Member.
Gotta love Smokey!
elvenwear
Senior Member.
Welcome Kate.
I learned about this forum watching a PBS Nova episode on UFOs. I am so dismayed that so many otherwise intelligent people are signing up to UFO, Bigfoot, fake moon landing, and flat earth conspiracies. Looking forward to seeing more rational and empirical discussions conversations
JMartJr
Senior Member.
You and me both!
Junkiewood
New Member
Hello!! Thanks for having me!
amshutters
New Member
Hi everyone. I love learing about the things that are less heard of and shared and have seen interesting coming from this site.
Hi All, I am new here. Looking forwards to reading your perspectives
Mikey
New Member
Hello folks. I'm a critical care physician in an academic medical center in the US. Until COVID and the deluge of misinformation/disinformation, I was a "shruggie", not seriously concerned about those who succumb to various hookum and woo on the internet. Sure, I'd seen people dying from widely metastatic cancers that we treatable initially who opted for "alternative therapies", but they were rare. That all changed (and is still changing) with the simultaneous advent of COVID and the algorithmic strategies of social and other platforms designed to promote controversial and often conspiracy-oriented content because that's what generates eyeballs. The consequences are now apparent in the measles outbreak which, assuming it continues at the current rate, will exceed anything seen since 1992 when the second MMR booster was recommended. And the current federal healthcare "leadership" has decided grants to study the effects of and countermeasures to medical misinformation/disinformation is "inconsistent with administrative priorities". So sites like this might be the only places to push back.
obiwanbenobi
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jarlrmai
Senior Member.
Welcome onboard!
Mendel
Senior Member.
I don't think we have any medical professionals among the regulars on Metabunk. I had the good fortune to be able to listen to the NDR (a German public radio station) talk to virologist Christian Drosten during the pandemic, which was quite the education; and there were vlogging doctors explaining issues to their youtube audiences, which no doubt helped more to push back than Metabunk could. And at this point, we still can't say for certain whether the "lab origin" hypothesis is a conspiracy theory or not—where people stand on this mostly depends on whether they trust the Chinese, and the non-Chinese researchers who know their Chinese colleagues, not on any facts.
So we kinda did our layperson's best to tackle these issues. The latest one we're struggling with is fluoride (again, do a "titles only" search on fluoride) at https://www.metabunk.org/threads/claim-fluoride-is-a-poison-hhs-secretary-rfk-jr.14073/ , which is not really that clear-cut, either.
We do a lot better with UFOs, where no-one can out-expert us.
I guess what I'd like to say is, welcome to Metabunk, and we'd be more than happy to have members with a medical background lend an eye now and then!
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JMartJr
Senior Member.
Hiya! If you have a moment and any interest, I'd be curious hat you make of the recent thread on tridactyl mummies from South America. Much of the thread hinged on interpreting medical scans, which you might be better at than the rest of us! (I realize that reading this sort of imagery may not be a facet of your specialty, and that you may not have any interest. But can't hurt to ask!)
I'm particularly curious about this image:
and whether the bit circled in red is the radius and ulna receding out of the imaged area, or indicates a "platform" where missing fingers were once attached. I now suspect the former, but whatta I know?
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/la...l-dicom-files-on-tridactyls.14099/post-341342
Hey everyone
Respect to anyone who efforts to search for and communicate the truth as well as debunk false claims. Raised and educated Catholic, became secular through formal philosophy education. Learned the basics of evolution late in life. Gradually learned the nuances of hot topics like abortion, statism and veganism. Now I'm big into AI with Joscha Bach being one of my favorite free thinkers.
I was part of the initial wave of 9/11 truth back in 2006 then after a few years fell back on a more realistic assessment of my ignorance on topics beyond my area of expertise. This lull lasted for over a decade. BUT lately (with some more cognitive bandwidth, assistance from advanced LLM's and professional problem solving and analysis experience) I've been revisiting the arguments specifically around the collapse progression of the WTC buildings. I am back in hardcore research mode.
At the moment all the official explanations and their defenses I've been able to review up to this point fall short of addressing several major issues. That doesn't mean I won't eventually find or understand them, nor does it mean that alternatives are correct. I am open to being convinced either way. Maybe someday I can make or fund a collapse simulation (digital or physical model) that sufficiently resolves all the apparent / claimed anomalies.
Respect to anyone who efforts to search for and communicate the truth as well as debunk false claims. Raised and educated Catholic, became secular through formal philosophy education. Learned the basics of evolution late in life. Gradually learned the nuances of hot topics like abortion, statism and veganism. Now I'm big into AI with Joscha Bach being one of my favorite free thinkers.
I was part of the initial wave of 9/11 truth back in 2006 then after a few years fell back on a more realistic assessment of my ignorance on topics beyond my area of expertise. This lull lasted for over a decade. BUT lately (with some more cognitive bandwidth, assistance from advanced LLM's and professional problem solving and analysis experience) I've been revisiting the arguments specifically around the collapse progression of the WTC buildings. I am back in hardcore research mode.
At the moment all the official explanations and their defenses I've been able to review up to this point fall short of addressing several major issues. That doesn't mean I won't eventually find or understand them, nor does it mean that alternatives are correct. I am open to being convinced either way. Maybe someday I can make or fund a collapse simulation (digital or physical model) that sufficiently resolves all the apparent / claimed anomalies.
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