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for those who feel stuck and isolated from a partner who's gone down the rabbit hole in any way (not just the Q-Anons), perhaps you can try to tell them how you feel and that to the degree they've chosen this to be some kind of defining characteristic it does make you worry and whatever else. just lay it out for them, perhaps it can be enough of a connection and a line that they'll realize that they are damaging a relationship by that kind of radicalism and they may be able to use that as a way to come back out of it.

just a thought. :) hope things go well.

for me the hard part is that i don't think it will matter whatever i say.
 

BFK89

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for those who feel stuck and isolated from a partner who's gone down the rabbit hole in any way (not just the Q-Anons), perhaps you can try to tell them how you feel and that to the degree they've chosen this to be some kind of defining characteristic it does make you worry and whatever else. just lay it out for them, perhaps it can be enough of a connection and a line that they'll realize that they are damaging a relationship by that kind of radicalism and they may be able to use that as a way to come back out of it.

just a thought. :) hope things go well.

for me the hard part is that i don't think it will matter whatever i say.
I am with you! At some point they went too far and their line of demarcation is so far from yours that it’s just so hard to actually make your own position make sense for them. Sending love and support to anybody else also going through this!
 

RickDoogie

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Mick, Thanks for your great work. I especially like that you sidestep the name-calling ad hominem and stick to the logic. I just turned 67 last month. My grandma was a member of the John Birch Society and took us grandkids to her weekly meetings when she was babysitting us (with tinker toys and other quiet toys to keep us quiet during the meetings). I was one of the oldest grandkids, so around age ten, I was paying attention to all the conspiracy theories about the UN, Bilderbergers, Trilateral Commission, and all that good stuff. Grandma was a Prepper with a shed full of dried milk, canned food, and water. I read enough of her literature to figure out the JBS was more interested in rumors and innuendo than it was interested in hard evidence. Did you know that the Beatles were on the Commie payroll?

Being a lover of science and reading from an early age, I subscribed to a Ufology newsletter (hey, no internet in the 60s) and gobbled up everything I could find about psychic and paranormal "research". After looking at all the best evidence, I finally lost interest in conspiracy theories and paranormal claims. I wanted it to be true.

Nowadays, when my younger friends start telling me about the Knights Templar or some satanic Qanon theory about politicians, I have to shrug it off and say, "I've heard all that stuff since I was ten years old".

I just started listening to a podcast called "Liberty Weekly", and I really like what the host and his guests have to say. I was disheartened to hear this guy say, "I'm a 9/11 Truther". Having read and watched all the 9/11 conspiracy theories and "proof" and dismissed it all long ago, I thought maybe I needed to see if there was something new on the Truther front. There isn't. Same ol', same ol'.

The positive thing about all this searching for new "Truther" evidence? I found your YouTube debunking videos and your MetaBunk website. Very nice work. I sent a link to your YouTube videos to the host of Liberty Weekly.
I have a few friends who are true believers in UFOs, Truther stories, and Qanon demonology. So, I'm here so I don't have to shy away when I hear weird claims that don't sound quite right. Thanks again.
 

KathyZ

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This thread is for any first time poster to (optionally) post an introductory "hi everyone" post, which will also get you "verified" (meaning you can post without anti-spam restrictions) once that post, and a few posts in another sub-forum, have been approved.

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Hello,
Came across this while reading OZY.
I am a retired health care administrator.
Love reading sane responses to the boatload of wild claims that float around
 

Peewee

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Hi, I’m Peewee. I am a 70 yr. old woman living in Colorado. I am a Progressive who believes in science and logic. I was attracted to the site when I read about it in the OZY Daily Dose. I have been increasingly alarmed at the apparent spreading acceptance of Q conspiracies. I really look forward to serious and intelligent dialogue.
 

RustamShah

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Hi everyone, want to say hello, I saw Mick's videos on Youtube etc and also briefly chatted with him on Twitter, had few questions regarding an incident in Pakistan recently and hopefully will be able to put a post in a new thread.

Regards
 

JMartJr

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Hi everyone, want to say hello, I saw Mick's videos on Youtube etc and also briefly chatted with him on Twitter, had few questions regarding an incident in Pakistan recently and hopefully will be able to put a post in a new thread.

Regards
Hi! I met some very nice kite fliers from Pakistan at a kite festival in Dubai several years ago. They had some amazing fighting kites, much larger than I had seen before, and were just very nice people besides. Good times...
 

RustamShah

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Hi! I met some very nice kite fliers from Pakistan at a kite festival in Dubai several years ago. They had some amazing fighting kites, much larger than I had seen before, and were just very nice people besides. Good times...
Oh you reminded me something I used to do a lot .. some very good memories, thanks !! :cool:
 

Indracherav

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Hi everyone,

I'm a MA Publishing student from Oxford. I have come across a lot of misinformation because of my girlfriend. She believes in conspiracy theories religiously. My intention to join this website is to learn scientific and effective ways to reason with her. I appreciate Mick West's book and his methods. I used to call my girlfriend names and make her feel less for believing in dangerous information but after reading ETRH, I realised that respect is the key.

I applaud everyone who are working for this cause.
 
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David101

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Hello everyone,
I'm new here and this is my first post. I have been following Mick West for a while now and I want to dedicate a little more time trying to get us back to a shared reality. And that involves debunking bad arguments and claims. I have been active on Twitter and Facebook and have had a few at length conversations with QAnon followers and Covid deniers. I want to work for a world that is more introspective and skeptical than what we see right now and this platform seems to be a good place to a) hone my skills and where possible b) contribute to said pursuit.
Thanks.
 

Spencer

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Hi, I’m Spencer, and looking forward to interacting with you all! I don’t have a lot of specialist knowledge, but find this topic quite intriguing.
 

cdeen2000

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This thread is for any first time poster to (optionally) post an introductory "hi everyone" post, which will also get you "verified" (meaning you can post without anti-spam restrictions) once that post, and a few posts in another sub-forum, have been approved.

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Hello. Happy to find this forum. I am an old computer programmer (original 1980's girl geek). These days I find myself debunking crazy social media posts from friends. Have a great day!
 

Disclosuretv

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Hi my name is Dan. I run Disclosure tv on YouTube and Twitter. First of all thanks for the add. I look forward to hearing other opinions. I also just bought Mick West book. waiting on the delivery for that. i Do run an "Alternative media webpage, YouTube and twitter. Which means yes I do believe in what some would call conspiracies. But i actually dont like calling them conspiracies. Too much damage is done with that title. And I dont just dont even touch or get involved with what I call extreme theories. So your probably like "what are you doing here then"? Well here's the thing. I was raised in a very religious Christian family. I do know the history of Christianity and so forth. But also i do believe in science. Whole heartedly. and I believe science does offer countless explanations for a lot of events and subjects. I'm a carpenter Ive worked for the govt , military, FBI Lockheed and celebrities as a subcontractor. My family is and has been civil servants all their life. I'm not a Q follower. I actually believe Q isn't a single individual on 4 chan with connections to powerful people. I actually believe they are just random people just making up a lot of bull. I dont think the world is flat or the govt is trying to poison us with chemtrails. However I do know the cloud seeding operations are in fact true and used for research, improving an areas ecosystem by increasing precipitation. I'm not your typical conspiracy nut and do believe the majority, 99% of certain occurrences and events can be explained with various means including just having a little common sense. However I also believe there is that 1% that cant be explained no matter how hard you try to find an answer. Although some forget just how many events or occurrences that 1% actually is. Its a lot. I believe that 99% of Ufos can be explained or are generally just fake all together. In order for me to even put events into that 1% category it has to meet a certain standard and criteria. That standard must be that i can find or compile evidence or proof that's 60% or greater. And to me just having an "official statement ran by a news media outlet isn't enough to prove something did or didn't happen. I dont and cant take only spoken word of people. and you would agree people lie. They dont lie all the time. But they lie. My Dad was a cop and a city official, Ive worked for the govt and I even have to lie about things Ive done and seen at work, so trust me when i say people lie, and keep secrets more than you think. But not about everything. Just about things. Some of the things I know wouldn't even make a bit of difference if I told them to people. But for some reason the govt celebs say I cant. I can prove everything I'm saying but i cant by law give you that proof. I may be able to show a few pics Anyway i look forward to hearing from you all, your opinions, facts and conclusions. have a good one. Il attach a pic of a celebrity home. I just cant tell you the address or who owns it.
 

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fehorse

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This post is to introduce myself.
I am a physician who became interested in Skepticism after reading Edzard Ernst's book on SCAM medicine, "Trick or Treatment" which led me to become a true believer in Evidence-Based Medicine. A few years ago I joined the local chapter of Skeptics in the Pub and am a regular listener of SGU and Skeptoid. I have given several talks to our Skeptics group on EBM, SCAMS, The Placebo Effect, and bogus medical studies.
Our book discussion night in Skeptics just discussed Mick West's "Escaping the Rabbit Hole". Our Skeptics group has been working on ways we can interact with conspiracy believers, such as Flat Earthers, in a non-threatening way.
How to Have Impossible Conversations by Peter Boghossian was also helpful, but Mr. West's book provided the information and insights we were looking for.

I thoroughly enjoyed it and appreciate the information provided to aid me in discussing conspiracy theories rationally. That book has led me to this website.
 

INVX

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Hi, long time lurker.

I'm registering here because I want to start a thread on the most recent Thylacine (Tasmanian Tiger) discussions happening my country at the moment.

Would be great to see some more sceptical eyes on the "evidence" that's come out in the last 24 hours regarding a confirmed sighting.

Thanks.
 

Faye Pini

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This thread is for any first time poster to (optionally) post an introductory "hi everyone" post, which will also get you "verified" (meaning you can post without anti-spam restrictions) once that post, and a few posts in another sub-forum, have been approved.

A few words on who you are and how you ended up here would be appreciated. Or just say hi!
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Hi! Read some of your posting guide - it's rather lengthy. I like point 5. To help people escape the rabbit hole, either directly, or by giving tools to their friends.
That's a big concern I have as I see my friends slipping into believing in way out conspiracy theories. So harmful. This forum came up when entering Google search on how to stop friends believing in this rubbish. New and very interested. Thanks for join!!
 

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