Washington Navy Yard Shootings - False Flag Conspiracy Theories?

moderateGOP

Active Member
The idea that video games were in any way responsible for his behaviour is laughable and offensive.
Grand Theft Auto 5 came out yesterday - if he was truly a fan of violent video games he would have delayed his killing spree until *after* he had had a chance to play it thoroughly.
And wouldn't *actual* gun training and familiarity with his real-world gun have more to do with his proficiency to kill people than his imagined virtual gun use in a video game?
I didn't say it was solely responsible. It was a factor. But YOU dismiss it with laughable hypothetical scenarios. You know, he could not have liked the Grand Theft Auto Games for whatever reason...He might not have known about the release. If he truly immersed himself into w/e game he was playing. He could have been obsessed and not clearly aware of the world around him. Yes, if he went to a sophisticated gun range for 16 hours a day, I'm sure that he would have become a better shot. Though, he was in the Navy which probably contributed to him actually knowing how to fire a gun!! These video games affect the mind, and a lot of the past shooters we've had recently had this same exact combination. Video Games + Mental Illness.
 

Joe

Senior Member
The idea that video games were in any way responsible for his behaviour is laughable and offensive.
Grand Theft Auto 5 came out yesterday - if he was truly a fan of violent video games he would have delayed his killing spree until *after* he had had a chance to play it thoroughly.
And wouldn't *actual* gun training and familiarity with his real-world gun have more to do with his proficiency to kill people than his imagined virtual gun use in a video game?
Your right and its just as ridiculous to blame the gun . http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/washington-navy-yard-gunman-aaron-2280976
 

Joe

Senior Member
Agreed Pete. I think the bigger issue is that the man obviously had mental issues, has had several run-ins with the law involving discharging a gun in anger, and he still was legally able to buy a firearm. Pretty sure mutilating the First Amendment isn't the solution. The solution is universal background checks and taking guns from convicted violent offenders.
We have background checks already .
 

JRBids

Senior Member
Agreed Pete. I think the bigger issue is that the man obviously had mental issues, has had several run-ins with the law involving discharging a gun in anger, and he still was legally able to buy a firearm. Pretty sure mutilating the First Amendment isn't the solution. The solution is universal background checks and taking guns from convicted violent offenders.
From what I heard listening to a talk radio show yesterday, unless he was actually CONVICTED of a crime, which he wasn't, none of it would have come up in a background check.
 

solrey

Senior Member
Perhaps a paranoid schizophrenic influenced by those pushing the HAARP and microwave weapon conspiracies? Was it just a matter of time, as many of us have feared?

Or maybe Alex Jones is right. :eek::confused::rolleyes::(
 

Pete Tar

Senior Member
Jon Stewart's media-watch.

 

Jay Reynolds

Senior Member
Perhaps a paranoid schizophrenic influenced by those pushing the HAARP and microwave weapon conspiracies? Was it just a matter of time, as many of us have feared?
It sounds exactly like a paranoid schizophrenic who has been influenced by CT's and the 'targeted individual' stuff.
 

Freak

Active Member
I think they may Fam fire in basic, but I'm pretty sure they don't do any kind of qualification. Certain jobs require it though. I used to teach our Corpsmen (medics for Marine units), worst shots ever.
 

Cairenn

Senior Member
He was running around for about 30 min, before he was shot. A good shot would have killed more than he did.
 

Jay Reynolds

Senior Member
There is considerable overlap between the "microwave/VLF/ELF" conspiracy community and the "Targeted Individual/Gangstalking" community.
Some of the former are at the least delusional while many of the latter are paranoid schizophrenics. The combination of the two seems to actually be the reason behind the Aaron Alexis story. The lurch towards another gun debate might cloud the real facts which actually need to be discussed.

I truly hope that this incident might bring about some public dialogue where the existence of the increasing influence of unfounded conspiracy theories on the mentally ill can be recognized better and both communities can stop feeding off each other.

The latest seems to show yet other incidents in Alexis' recent past:
-he somehow was living on Naval Housing and got thrown out after complaining of noises in the linen closet.
-he accused strangers at the airport of harrassment
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Several weeks before Aaron Alexis opened fire inside of the Washington Navy Yard on Monday, he was kicked out of a military housing complex in Rhode Island after complaining of too much noise coming from the linen closet, ABC News has learned.

It's unclear if that sparked a series of troubling and bizarre encounters with law enforcement and total strangers in the days that followed.

In the early days of August, Alexis was living at the Naval Bachelor Enlisted Quarters in Newport, R.I., but he complained of hearing noise coming from the linen closet there and was ultimately forced to leave, two sources with knowledge of the investigation told ABC News.
About the same time, Alexis allegedly had a run-in with a family waiting to fly home to Alabama from Norfolk.

On Aug. 4, Glynda Boyd and her family were on their way back from a family reunion when a man she believed was Alexis came out of nowhere inside the airport in Norfolk and accused them of laughing at them.

"He stood in front of us," Boyd told ABC News. "He was no more than two feet away from us, and he would just keep saying, 'Is she laughing at me?" And we were like, 'No.' Then he just got angry. ... You could tell his behavior, something wasn't right with him mentally."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/navy-yard-gunman-complained-noise-linen-closet-kicked/story?id=20310445
A family from Alabama believes they had a frightening encounter with Navy Yard shooter Aaron Alexis last month while flying from a Virginia airport when an enraged man accused them of laughing at him.

The stranger delivered a rant filled with profanities and at least one racial epithet because he thought the family, including a wheelchair-bound woman, was laughing at him in the Norfolk airport on Aug. 4.

"It was a disturbing type of behavior," Glynda Boyd told ABC News. "I felt fear. A sense of fear because it was off. He looked like he was puzzled, something was wrong. You could tell his behavior, something wasn't right with him mentally."

Boyd said the scary confrontation, first reported by FoxNews.com, was triggered by an inside joke at Norfolk Airport among the family that included her brother and aunt. Her wheelchair-bound aunt Rosalind Baugh laughed loudly, which drew the attention of the man she is certain was Alexis, she said.

Alexis angrily approached the group, demanding to know why they were laughing at him. Things quickly escalated with Alexis screaming profanities and motioning at his side as though he were carrying a weapon.

Boyd said Alexis screamed numerous curses at the family standing no more than two feet from them and used the N-word. Both the family and Alexis are black. Boyd said when she saw Alexis' picture on TV following the shooting, she screamed.

"I turned on the television and I saw his face on the news and I just screamed, 'Oh my God, that's him, oh my God,'" Boyd said. "And I just started screaming and I did not go to sleep. Did not sleep, couldn't because it just kept playing back in my mind, my encounter with him and my family."

Three days after the incident, Alexis filed a police report in Rhode Island, stating he had argued with a person at an airport in Virginia and that individual "sent three people to follow him" and that they were harassing him with a microwave machine.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/navy-yard-shooter-cursed-woman-wheelchair-days-rampage/story?id=20303223
 

JeffreyNotGeoffrey

Active Member
Oh you mean grandpa's medium. What about books, great grandpa's medium? There's the Anarchist Cookbook that actually tells you how to make lots of real bombs.
Why haven't we stopped this terrible thing? lulz
 

Cairenn

Senior Member
I have friends that have a copy of the Anarchist Cookbook. Darn you can download it free as an ebook or order it from Amazon or Barnes and Noble.

I understand that his primary weapon was a shotgun. Shotguns are easy to aim, especially at people in a room. Hard to miss with one.
 

MichaelStox

Member
I don't think this was an "inside job" but here are some things to look at. According to FOX News and BBC the responding SWAT team was given the order to stand down.

FBI stated that the suspect claimed he was being harassed with microwave technology. This is a haunting paragraph from the prophetic book Behold A Pale Horse (written in 1991):

 
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JeffreyNotGeoffrey

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Citing Wild Bill Cooper is not evidence/proof. It is proof Wild Bill thought it was so. He has recanted much of what he has said, especially about UFOs. Do you have another source other than Behold a Pale Horse, which is not exactly the most factual of books.
 

AluminumTheory

Senior Member
I think you're mis inter
I don't think this was an "inside job" but here are some things to look at. According to FOX News and BBC the responding SWAT team was given the order to stand down.

FBI stated that the suspect claimed he was being harassed with microwave technology. This is a haunting paragraph from the prophetic book Behold A Pale Horse (written in 1991):
Misinterpretation of cause an effect.
More likely that Alexis got the idea of E.L.F. waves from the from the book or someone who repeated that idea. But if you have a conspiracist mindset, you might take it as a 'prediction'.
 

MichaelStox

Member
I didn't use him as proof of anything. I posted that paragraph because of it's uncanny similarity to what has unfolded. The victim claimed he was harassed by microwave technology and he was on anti-depressants. On that same page, Cooper also claimed that the gov't encouraged manufacture and importation of firearms for criminals to use, and Fast & Furious is exactly that.

Read this CBS news story... http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57598487/more-fast-and-furious-guns-surface-at-crimes-in-mexico/
 

JRBids

Senior Member
I didn't use him as proof of anything. I posted that paragraph because of it's uncanny similarity to what has unfolded. The victim claimed he was harassed by microwave technology and he was on anti-depressants. On that same page, Cooper also claimed that the gov't encouraged manufacture and importation of firearms for criminals to use, and Fast & Furious is exactly that.

Read this CBS news story... http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57598487/more-fast-and-furious-guns-surface-at-crimes-in-mexico/
If he was truly being "harassed by microwave technology" how would he know?
 

M Bornong

Senior Member
If he was truly being "harassed by microwave technology" how would he know?
It may have melted a chocolate bar he was carrying in his shirt pocket? ;) It would be interesting to know if Aaron Alexis was following people like Bill Cooper, Nick Begich, or someone as obscure as Michael Janitch (AKA Dutchsinse). I doubt we'll ever know.
 

M Bornong

Senior Member
Does increasing serotonin result in extreme violence?
http://www.webmd.com/depression/features/serotonin

Maybe Aaron wasn't following Jarrod's advice and didn't eat enough Turkey clubs at Subway, and mistook the feeling for an ELF attack. It's not an attack on the 2nd amendment, it's an attack on Subway. I can't believe Alex Jones hasn't figured this out, yet. ;)
 

JeffreyNotGeoffrey

Active Member
Unfortunately you can't have it both ways. You can't say that Cooper is "predicting" things and was on to things, but then say you aren't using him as evidence. You ARE using him as source material or some sort of basis. And my point is that he is a terrible foundation to lay any scientific analysis on. On that page you showed, he talks about how the US is going to suspend the Constitution and declare martial law so the aliens can take over. SERIOUSLY. That is the silliest thing I've seen in print in a while. First prove intelligent aliens exist. Second prove they have made it to earth. Third prove they have taken over the government. Cooper's entire worldview rests on these ideas. Hence why I completely discredit him and give him no authority other than how to be paranoid and nutty.
 

jvnk08

Active Member
I'm sure there are perfectly reasonable explanations for why that SWAT team was told to stand down. There isn't much information about it, but if we presume it is part of some conspiracy, it makes one wonder why "they" would call in a swat team, tell them to stand down, and then proceed to inform the media about it which seems to have only fueled the conspiracy fire rather than "pull the wool" over anyone's eyes.

MichaelStox said:
On that same page, Cooper also claimed that the gov't encouraged manufacture and importation of firearms for criminals to use, and Fast & Furious is exactly that.
Well now that's a bit of a stretch...
 
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