I think people have plotted this, but their data was missing the crucial time periods on the evening of the 15th.Wow. I just realized that the open data set I grabbed has data for the USS Omaha!
I think people have plotted this, but their data was missing the crucial time periods on the evening of the 15th.Wow. I just realized that the open data set I grabbed has data for the USS Omaha!
I wonder if there is some way of extracting any data for co-ordinates within ~12NM of the position of the OmahaWow. I just realized that the open data set I grabbed has data for the USS Omaha!
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Maybe that means the ship dropped anchor at that time ?On July 15 the Omaha only has data up to 02:57
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Yes, and I will work on this. I can use geospatial data types in the database, I think, to determine whether or not a given point falls within a certain radius of another point. Let me dig into it.I wonder if there is some way of extracting any data for co-ordinates within ~12NM of the position of the Omaha
Corbell's Instagram post says:Yeah getting back to actual analysis does anyone concur that the video appears to have 2 cuts as per below, that would seem to possibly affect the narrative.
So three cuts.External Quote:This RADAR data release shows four clips; multiple unknown targets.
Maybe that means the ship dropped anchor at that time ?
So this may include switching off the AIS transponder. The deck logs may show when EMCON was engaged.External Quote:During the events, the ships often engaged "emissions control," or EMCON, protocols designed to minimize their electronic emissions profile.
On July 15 the Omaha only has data up to 02:57
Hmm, I was just opening the CSV in Excel, and it did give me a warning that it was too big. So maybe it had not loaded it all.My dataset seems have samples for the 15th up until 7:00 AM (ish)
Hmm, I was just opening the CSV in Excel, and it did give me a warning that it was too big. So maybe it had not loaded it all.
External Quote:Brown noted that the Montgomery gold crew conducted its advanced training aboard USS Omaha (LCS-12), currently designated as the division's training ship while former trainer USS Jackson (LCS-6) undergoes maintenance.
From https://news.usni.org/2019/05/06/na...air-of-ships-larger-event-planned-this-summer (May 6, 2019)External Quote:"...Montgomery gold and Gabrielle Giffords gold was a full-on SWATT that was done with the [Theodore Roosevelt] strike group's ships..."
From https://www.dvidshub.net/image/5601540/uss-russell-ddg-59External Quote:The next two LCS crews to deploy, however, will be included in a larger cru/des SWATT event this summer, as the Naval Surface and Mine Warfighting Development Center (SMWDC) learns more about the capabilities and limitations of the LCS and how to ensure the crews are trained for both solo and larger formation operations.
From https://www.dvidshub.net/news/37425...te-surface-warfare-advanced-tactical-trainingExternal Quote:(July 19, 2019) The Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Russell (DDG 59), left, the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Pinckney (DDG 91), center, and the Independence-variant littoral combat ship USS Omaha (LCS 12) travel in formation.
External Quote:During SWATT, the major training events included conducting integrated air and missile defense (IAMD), anti-submarine warfare / surface warfare (ASW/SUW), information warfare (IW), ship maneuvering and live-fire events designed to tactically prepare surface forces for maritime warfare missions.
Just a note, I have looked more at the radar's specs, unless there is a way to somehow combine the S band and X band radars, this radar is not capable of differentiating real surface objects vs low altitude objects, it's fundamentally a 2D radar.See my more current post about the military variants:
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/uss-omaha-ufo-uap-radar-video.11762/post-249634
mmmh I think the guy on Twitter might be BS-ing about this, the so called "Radar Overlay" function he points to is actually an "ECDIS with Radar Overlay" which basically just shows the ECDIS cartography with radar overlay.Via twitter:
External Quote:...because it's using the 'Radar Overlay' function, i.e. importing data from the AN/SPS-77 (V)1. NG's Sperry Marine is commercially available, they're not about to show you the '77s actual terminal in operation.
The USS Omaha was being used as a training ship, conducting a surface warfare training program during and around the July events. The program, Surface Warfare Advanced Tactical Training, also involved Carrier Strike Group 9, a training CSG whose flagship is the USS Theodore Roosevelt, and also includes the USS Russell of triangle video fame, and the USS Kidd of the July drone reports.
An interview with deputy commander of SMWDC Captain Christopher Barnes from https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/military/sd-me-surfing-skipper-20170516-story.htmlExternal Quote:
During a SWATT, the SMWDC team collects performance data related to metrics, developed and associated with surface warfare TTPs.
As a hypothesis, the SWATT training might help point towards some answers as to what they were doing (the strange maneuvers and surface target tracking) and why it was being filmed.External Quote:
...we do data reconstruction. It gets back to us about four hours later. And the WTIs initially will lead and facilitate a debrief of that event.
And they'll take all that information about what they did right and what they did wrong and they'll use it to start planning the one 48 hours later. And we'll do that for all the major events throughout the SWATT.
IWow. I just realized that the open data set I grabbed has data for the USS Omaha!
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Sounds like you need to download MySQL Workbench and get to using some MySQL to dig through these more effectively. Did I miss if this data was posted on this thread? I'd love to take a look at it myself if thats alright.Hmm, I was just opening the CSV in Excel, and it did give me a warning that it was too big. So maybe it had not loaded it all.
Here - https://marinecadastre.gov/ais/ The dates in question are July 15/16 2019.I
Sounds like you need to download MySQL Workbench and get to using some MySQL to dig through these more effectively. Did I miss if this data was posted on this thread? I'd love to take a look at it myself if thats alright.
Thank you much!Here - https://marinecadastre.gov/ais/ The dates in question are July 15/16 2019.
Sounds like you need to download MySQL Workbench and get to using some MySQL to dig through these more effectively. Did I miss if this data was posted on this thread? I'd love to take a look at it myself if thats alright.
They must have turned off their Automatic Indentification System (AIS) at that time. I don't see how that helps against suspected drones, though. Besides Swan Ace, were there any other ships in the area at that timeUSS Omaha track for July 14th (green) and July 15th (white). Clearly they got very excited at some point.
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Interestingly, the sharp turn to starboard that begins the period of maneuvering happens at about 5:00 AM local time on July 14:
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For context, they seemed to be sailing fairly evenly up until that point:
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Now this is super interesting: from examining the video, it seems they were way west of where the track ends when that recording was actually made. I'll spend some time tonight to analyze the video and get actual positions, assuming I'm reading the display correctly.
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If it's the car carrier , it's registered in the BahamasAlso, regarding the other ship, Swan Ace, is there anything known about its port of origin at the time ? I can't find anything on it
They must have turned off their Automatic Indentification System (AIS) at that time. I don't see how that helps against suspected drones, though. Besides Swan Ace, were there any other ships in the area at that time
Yeah, but it ferries between lots of different places. For example, right now it's traveling between two ports in Australia. Is there anywhere I can find between which two ports it was traveling in July 2019 ?If it's the car carrier , it's registered in the Bahamas
External Quote:
From https://www.dvidshub.net/image/5591923/uss-bunker-hill-cg-52External Quote:![]()
(July 15, 2019) Ship's Serviceman Seaman Kevin Rodriguez, from Baltimore, photographs a surface contact during a ship's nautical or otherwise photographic interpretation and examination (SNOOPIE) team drill on the bridge wing of the Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill (CG 52).
From https://www.dvidshub.net/image/5591902/uss-rafael-peralta-ddg-115External Quote:
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(July 15, 2019) Ensign Jessica Robinson, from Fort Lauderdale, Fla., uses binoculars to search for surface contacts from the pilot house of the Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill (CG 52).
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(July 13, 2019) Ship's Serviceman Seaman Ashley Keistler, from Reno Valley, Calif., looks for surface contacts from the bridge wing of the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Rafael Peralta (DDG 115).
External Quote:During SWATT, the major training events included conducting integrated air and missile defense (IAMD), anti-submarine warfare / surface warfare (ASW/SUW), information warfare (IW), ship maneuvering and live-fire events designed to tactically prepare surface forces for maritime warfare missions.
Also, San Clemente Island, which was nearby, is known as a multi-threat warfare training range. Equipment used include shone gunnery, bombardment, air defence, anti-submarine and electronic warfare. Quoting Wikipedia:-While waiting for the excellent work of @Heavytread on the AIS data to conclude, I think I have one last big post left in me for the day. Working from the hypothesis that the radar video is actually capturing a SWATT training exercise (for context, my last two posts here and here), I'm now trying to disprove myself. Is there dispositive evidence for the SWATT theory?
I'm assuming as true what I've already shown before; that the USS Omaha was conducting SWATT training during July 14-15 with other ships in CSG 9 and part of this training involved filming the equipment for debriefing. I'm also assuming the radar is tracking surface targets, as posts following this one suggest based on common symbols. I'm also assuming the AIS data collected and interpreted here by Heavytread accurately depicts USS Omaha's movement.
Established evidence 1: The radar video showing multiple surface targets being tracked.
Q1: Is the radar video consistent with a SWATT exercise? More specifically, is tracking multiple surface targets a component of the training? If not, the theory is pretty well out the window already.
A1: Here is a SWATT exercise from a year earlier, showing both static floating targets and speedboats mimicking multiple hostile surface contacts.
From the SMWDC Facebook page
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Simulated fast attack craft approach the Wasp-class amphibious assault ship USS Kearsarge (LHD 3) during a Surface Warfare Advanced Tactical Training (SWATT) exercise.
Follow up on previous answer:
Q2: Did other military ships in the area also spot surface contacts?
A2: Several images from other ships part of the training group taken on July 15 and surrounding dates show people observing surface contacts.
From https://www.dvidshub.net/image/5591926/uss-paul-hamilton-ddg-60
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(July 15, 2019) Ship's Serviceman Seaman Kevin Rodriguez, from Baltimore, photographs a surface contact during a ship's nautical or otherwise photographic interpretation and examination (SNOOPIE) team drill on the bridge wing of the Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill (CG 52).
From https://www.dvidshub.net/image/5591902/uss-rafael-peralta-ddg-115External Quote:
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(July 15, 2019) Ensign Jessica Robinson, from Fort Lauderdale, Fla., uses binoculars to search for surface contacts from the pilot house of the Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill (CG 52).
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(July 13, 2019) Ship's Serviceman Seaman Ashley Keistler, from Reno Valley, Calif., looks for surface contacts from the bridge wing of the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Rafael Peralta (DDG 115).
Established evidence 2: The movement of the USS Omaha based on AIS data.
Q3: Is the maneuvering of the USS Omaha consistent with a SWATT training exercise?
A3: Maneuvering is one of the covered exercises in SWATT.
From https://www.dvidshub.net/news/37425...te-surface-warfare-advanced-tactical-training
External Quote:During SWATT, the major training events included conducting integrated air and missile defense (IAMD), anti-submarine warfare / surface warfare (ASW/SUW), information warfare (IW), ship maneuvering and live-fire events designed to tactically prepare surface forces for maritime warfare missions.
Established evidence 3: The second Omaha video.
Q4: Is the second Omaha video contradictory to the SWATT theory?
A4: As it was taken at a different time, it could, like the maneuvering data, show a different exercise. Showing evidence for that is beyond the bounds of this thread topic. Regardless, it does not seem to be dispositive to the SWATT theory.
Established evidence 4: The presence of Swan Ace.
Q5: Is the presence of Swan Ace contradictory to the SWATT theory?
A5: It does provide some dispositive evidence in that carrying out an exercise which involved several vessels or targets that could interfere with a civilian vessel is unlikely. I do not know if the USS Omaha was too close to the Swan Ace to prohibit such an exercise.
That's all the new information I have at the moment. While I am tempted to the SWATT theory, the only dispositive evidence for any other theory that it presents is the lack of response from other vessels in the area shown in the A2 sources. If they are also making contact with surface targets, as part of "drills", it does add credence to surface targets being part of training in the area. The rest of it is a theory, one difficult to prove conclusively. I thought I'd put the facts I've found out there at least.
Today SCI's primary function is twofold: to support tactical training of the Pacific Fleet, and to continue as a key research and development facility. SCI provides the Navy and Marine Corps a multi-threat warfare training range. A major part of Navy training takes place on the ranges right off the SCI shores. The primary range covers over 149,000 square miles (386,000 km²) and is the Navy's busiest fleet airspace. Also included in this training area are two mine exercise areas, the Southern California Anti-Submarine Warfare Range, seven submarine areas, the shallow water Undersea Training Range, and two laser training ranges. In total, SCI is a unique combination of airfields, airspace and ranges unlike any other facility owned by the Navy. It is the only location in the Pacific where surface ships, submarines, aircraft and Navy expeditionary forces can train in all warfare areas simultaneously using shore gunnery, bombardment, air defense, antisubmarine and electronic warfare.
0 0 0 means straight ahead of the ship.Definitely sounds like "138 knots" to me through headphones.
What does "perfectly zero zero zero relative" mean?
What are the lines starting from each contact? I would assume those are the radar indicating the direction of travel?
However the points seem to move backwards on the radar screen or in different directions compared to the lines. What is going on?
External Quote:Assumption 2: The screen radar refreshes about every 40 frames when the video is viewed at 30 frames per second, meaning that the radar displays a new position every 1.33 seconds.
40 frames / (30 frames / 1 second) => (40 frames * 1 second) / 30 frames => (40 frames / 30 frames) * 1 second => (40 / 30) secondCan someone please explain the mathematics of that to me? When you divide frames per second by frames per second, you get a undimensioned constant, not something measuring anything per second.