The 'Gimbal' UFO: Marik Claims "New Findings" Falsify Prosaic Explanations

[jarlrmai]

Here's a 10 page thread where we considered an ATLAS launch
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/could-the-gimbal-video-show-an-atlas-v-launch.12078/

Such movement (the 'J-HOOK' that mirrors the jet movement accounting for parallax) is essentially magic given our current understanding of physics, not just some DARPA level iteration on known aircraft performance.

So saying not aliens, but DARPA just assumes DARPA are capable of magic.

 

[Mendel]

This decoupling cannot be explained by simple distant glare + standard pod derotation.

Since we have no authoritative knowledge of how ATFLIR derotation works, that's an unfounded statement.

Additionally, the distant plane recreation is flawed. Matching the clouds is the only way to derive the distant plane's path, and when applying the correct bank and speed, it does not produce a straight or even slightly wavy flight path, it is completely impossible.

You have not supported this 'impossible' to the level that @Edward Current has shown it to be possible.

If the basic glare explanation cannot account for the observed decoupling without ad-hoc additions, then focusing on "glare rotating" misses the point.

No, the focusing on the first part of the video misses the point that the anomalous feature of it are the strong quick rotations, which have been shown to be a camera artifact for various reasons.

At this point, we are assuming that the discrepancies you notice near the beginning can be addressed by refining the software model of the pod, but it doesn't seem worth the time to actually do.

 

[TheCholla]

@jarlrmai What's magic about that blue curve here?
You seem to overlook what the close paths can be, and the part of uncertainty/artifacts in the recreations due to imprecise data (like forcing constant elevation angle).

 

[Mick West]

That doesn't fit a balloon.
But more generally, a bunch of objects with initial speed, that are progressively undertaken by the wind (fits close path, the fleet, unusual tracks on SA).

Say rocket boosters with parachutes, super hot, drifting in the wind after release, they could have looked like this no? Both in IR signature and radar tracks (?). Apart from the fact that they'd descend and the data doesn't point to that (the date/wind neither).

My apologies for misunderstanding. I'm not really sure what you are envisaging, though.