Telepathy Tapes presentation taped and posted to X and YT

The establishment refusing to take ESP seriously? Isn't there quite a rich history of the establishment attempting to use psychic powers as weapons? Taking it incredibly seriously. There's books, films, everything.
That's absolutely true. "Remote sensing" works a lot like the psychic technique of cold reading (I linked a source explaining the methods further up), they just make vague statements, unless they do the equivalent of a hot reading and cheat. Not surprisingly, it proved completely useless for military reconnaissance or intelligence.
 
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He's listed as a "special event" panelist on the program.
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He was also doing his podcast live from CID, so not a featured speaker, but in a special event and doing his podcast. And this telepathy thing just looks bad, especially for someone that spent years showing how stuff like this is done.

Once again it's the intersection of fringe and money. IF any of these people really believed these kids are telepathic, AND they wanted to really prove that scientifically, it would be done in labs, under controls with magician/mentalist present AND then be repeated with different researchers at different labs. Repeatedly.

Instead we get a sideshow performance with autistic children being unwittingly used like trained monkeys for a paying audience. And that audience is gullible enough that earlier in the day they learned how their DNA codes for adnosine triphospathe (ATP) using the name of God, YHV, because when you drop the repeated H, from YHVH, it's 3 letters, just like ATP. Or they paid extra to hear about a fake crystal skull. Just reading the speaker line up showed that the amount of straight up bull shit at this event is staggering. The advocates for autistic telepathy have thrown their hat in with an "intuitive spiritual medium", an "exoconsciousnesses coach", a master of "Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique" an "Investigative Mythologist" and a host of other folks. This is where they chose to present a sideshow act proving autistic children are telepathic.
 
Speaking of hard to back down - see this Dec'24 thread Chris Ramsay started about Diaz's "ships of light" - "To me, these are the best photos ever taken of a UFO."

Phil posts the Mexican handblown lamps (hehe that's my graphic) that resemble the ships - and Chris Ramsay's response:

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Even if you don't agree with the debunk, at least offer a reason why instead of calling it irrelevant. He repeats the same silly answer twice more in that thread.
Source: https://x.com/chrisramsay52/status/1869580572923936819

Wow. No wonder he likes participating in bottom-shelf mentalism, he seems to enjoy participating in bottom-shelf argumentation too.
 
Has the bar for evidence ever actually moved? Like, it's always been high but for good reason.
That also struck me. What test that Randi might have instigated to test such claims does he think would now be passed?

Is he willing to put money on that? With what odds? He seems so cocksure, he should be offering quite long odds to anyone willing to take him up on it.

He seems to not realise that Banachek - who designed many of the protocols with Randi - is still very much alive. Exactly the same tests of yore can be enacted today, and that's all that I'm asking for, nothing more.
 
Ramsey posted this on X today in response to a video posted of him observing a demonstration with Dalia of the telepathy tapes where she is allegedly correctly telling people details like how many fingers they are holding up and what items they are holding, while being blindfolded.

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I would like to see more control during these demonstrations. Although obviously impressed in the moment, I still reserve some skepticism towards this particular skill. If proper conditions are met and the same results are given, then that would be HUGE. Just being honest, this does not put me over the edge by any means but peaks my curiosity!

Source: https://x.com/chrisramsay52/status/1932548499796545540
 
So she's definitely not using her eyes but they still need to literally show her the things she's only using her mind to see? Because for real psi to work you have to be facing the object? I guess the psi-active brain only works when facing forward.. or something. Red flags everywhere. Good mentalism routines find a way around such flaws in order to make them actually convincing! Good mentalism blindfold routines let the audience examine the blindfold, or at least a blindfold. Did anyone even do that in this case? That would be my FIRST priority. Maybe they did and its just not part of the video clip we saw.
Still, good to see Chris exercising some much needed skepticism.
 
Ramsey posted this on X today in response to a video posted of him observing a demonstration with Dalia of the telepathy tapes where she is allegedly correctly telling people details like how many fingers they are holding up and what items they are holding, while being blindfolded.
When she has the blindfold on, she is perceptibly holding her head at a different angle, chin more upward, as if she is looking under the blindfold. Yes, that blindfold and the way it fits needs a lot more scrutiny.

Do any of you remember the old magician Kuda Bux? I remember him appearing on TV many years ago where he placed pads of dough over his eyes, then a blindfold, then a covering of gauze over his whole head before "seeing" objects. I thought at the time (1950s, I think) that the pads of dough, instead of blinding him, probably kept a space between his head and the blindfold that permitted him to see.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuda_Bux
 
Still, good to see Chris exercising some much needed skepticism.

Given the speaker lineup and many of the very fringey subjects being discussed as legit, that "much needed skepticism" would have been best served prior to arriving, recording his podcast and participating in the Autists as telepaths side show. People like @Robert Sheaffer and Mick have shown up at UFO/paranormal conferences as the token skeptic. It's rough I'm sure, but it sets the boundaries before hand. If one is claiming telepathy, I'm here to really see it for sure sort of thing.
 
So she's definitely not using her eyes but they still need to literally show her the things she's only using her mind to see? Because for real psi to work you have to be facing the object? I guess the psi-active brain only works when facing forward.. or something. Red flags everywhere.
Spiritualism has got you covered:
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The third eye (also called the mind's eye or inner eye) is an invisible eye, usually depicted as located on the forehead, supposed to provide perception beyond ordinary sight.
 
Do any of you remember the old magician Kuda Bux? I remember him appearing on TV many years ago where he placed pads of dough over his eyes, then a blindfold, then a covering of gauze over his whole head before "seeing" objects. I thought at the time (1950s, I think) that the pads of dough, instead of blinding him, probably kept a space between his head and the blindfold that permitted him to see.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuda_Bux

I never studied blindfold magic methods in detail but I think its kind of an open secret at this point that the classic method is to simply put a blindfold on loosely enough that you can still see out the gaps around your nose area. You're really relying on the audience to blindly (pun intended) just trust that (a) you've got the blindfold on properly & (b) its a decent blindfold to begin with! Dalia's mask is riding pretty high up her nose & face. I'm instantly suspicious that she will probably have gaps around the nose area, whether she wants to or not.

Coincidentally I just recently bought a sleeping mask. It only has one job to do: completely block out all light! Interestingly, it only fully works if I do the headband up relatively tight and make sure the mask doesn't ride-up on my nose & cheeks at all. Smiling, wrinkling my nose (sniffing) or squinting my eyes (which raises my cheeks a little) pushes the mask up creating noticeable light-gaps around the nose, every time. If I wear it even slightly loosely and don't move my face at all, it stays on fine, but light still comes through on the left side of my nose. It gets good reviews. Its well made. Its just not perfect. I'm not sure how it could be improved. Maybe separate, loose pieces of expanding foam to jam into any gaps might do it.
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First, can we all agree than any 5 people could (comically easily) stage this exact scene by
pre-arranging details like number of fingers held up, or dollar amounts of a restaurant check?

Obviously, we're meant to assume that nothing was arranged...
but truly impressive demonstrations need to be not so easily faked.

So, let's pretend that we all know that it really is as spontaneous and organic (and wysiwyg) as is implied:

Dalia gives a weird, seemingly nervous laugh after saying (1:56) "I know that everybody can do it!" :oops:
Wow! That's huge! How could she know such a thing? Evidently none of the 4 observers, including
Chris Ramsay, required any evidence, at all, for that.

But what stuck with me the most, was Dalia's casual comment that, with the (un-inspected) blindfold on,
(1:17) "I notice that when I look at TV and stuff, um, with it on, it's super, super clear..."
Ramsay's response (1:25) to her statement--that she watches TV with the blindfold on--is "That's incredible." :oops:
But not in the "that lacks credibility" way. So, yeah, maybe time to jack up the skepticism a bit, Chris.

On the other hand, if the mask truly makes TV & other "stuff" more "high def," perhaps everybody can do it...

Bonus: The female observer, sitting closest to Dalia, never seems to find the demonstration impressive...
 
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So she's definitely not using her eyes but they still need to literally show her the things she's only using her mind to see? Because for real psi to work you have to be facing the object? I guess the psi-active brain only works when facing forward.. or something. Red flags everywhere. Good mentalism routines find a way around such flaws in order to make them actually convincing! Good mentalism blindfold routines let the audience examine the blindfold, or at least a blindfold. Did anyone even do that in this case? That would be my FIRST priority. Maybe they did and its just not part of the video clip we saw.
Still, good to see Chris exercising some much needed skepticism.

She said the bill was "forty-five [unintelligible] something like that."

Why doesn't she know exactly how much it's for? Why "something like that"? Why is she unsure? (Is the bill too far away/too small for her to accurately see it? - and of course we don't know if she saw it earlier before she was blindfolded.)
 
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1:30 "kinda windows, there's different areas you can look through"

I'd take that literally?
Good mentalism blindfold routines let the audience examine the blindfold, or at least a blindfold. Did anyone even do that in this case? That would be my FIRST priority.
Controlled conditions means they can't use their own blindfold, and don't get an opportunity to tamper with the blindfold the lab provides, and it is collected and examined afterwards.
 
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When she has the blindfold on, she is perceptibly holding her head at a different angle, chin more upward, as if she is looking under the blindfold. Yes, that blindfold and the way it fits needs a lot more scrutiny.

To me, the mask also seems to be sitting higher on her head than it should be.

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I'm not sure what the exact brand/type of mask she's wearing, but from a quick google search of "sleeping masks" I can find some that are pretty similar that - when presumably properly worn - sit a bit lower than telepath lady, with the bottom most part sitting just below nostril level.

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The way telepath lady turns her face side on to whatever it is she's supposed to "see" obviously indicates there's enough of a gap at the sides of her mask that she can peek through. The strap is probably loosened as well so it's not pulling the mask tight against her face.

Do any of you remember the old magician Kuda Bux? I remember him appearing on TV many years ago where he placed pads of dough over his eyes, then a blindfold, then a covering of gauze over his whole head before "seeing" objects. I thought at the time (1950s, I think) that the pads of dough, instead of blinding him, probably kept a space between his head and the blindfold that permitted him to see.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuda_Bux

I don't remember the old guy but I did see someone doing the exact same thing on Penn & Teller's Fool Us a while back, except he was using clay if I am I remembering correctly. If I find it I'll post it.
 
Bonus: The female observer, sitting closest to Dalia, never seems to find the demonstration impressive...

Kinda reminds me of Nick Einhorn's performance in season 1 of Penn & Teller's Fool Us.

Relevant bit at 5:16.



The reaction from the three participants is quite subdued. That's because all three of them become instant-stooges when reading from the notes inside the envelopes. They are, as instructed by Nick but not obvious to the audience, only selectively reading from the note and they are also inserting additional information not on it when prompted to do so. All three participants have the exact same note (other than the colour) and at that point they all know exactly how two of the three guesses are done.

The girl sitting closest to telepath lady seems to be in the perfect position where she can tell exactly what is going on.

That said, I don't believe any of those people at the table with telepath lady were fooled by this.
 
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Germany's most popular TV game show of all time was Wetten, dass..?, which translates to Wanna Bet?. Contestants claimed to have extraordinary skills, while celebrities bet on whether they would succeed.
In 1988, one man claimed he could identify the color of pencils by taste alone. Wearing a padded ski mask with stickers over the lenses, he correctly named all seven colors.
After the show, he revealed he was the editor of the satirical magazine Titanic, and that the trick would be disclosed in the next issue. It turned out he had simply peeked through the mask near his nose.

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Timecode: mask is being put on.
 
She's wearing a "Mindfold". They used the same kind of mask in the "demonstrations" of kids reading, playing football and drawing in this video over on the other Telepathy Tapes thread. see #322
There's a similar product called "mindfolded" that comes with bluetooth and a smartphone app.
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Mindfolded is the very first blindfold gimmick ever released on the market. The blindfold is designed with exact precision so that the gimmick disappears exactly and cannot be seen.

You can use Mindfolded for many different things, for example you could have spectators perform assignments through the blindfold. You can make the spectators think things you want.

You can also put it on yourself and know exactly what color shirt the entire last row of the audience in the theater is wearing.

Or you can know exactly what someone writes down.

So many things are possible with Mindfolded.

There are cheaper offerings, too:
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A fool-proof blindfold that allows you to secretly peek. Completely examinable by your spectator.

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You'll even discover how to read borrowed books which have been opened at any page by an audience member whilst you are blindfolded and also sat in a totally dark room, yes that's right the secrets of reading in the dark or if you so desire to present it as such, by your fingertips are also revealed.

And of course you learn how to have cotton wool padded into your eye sockets and then stuck into place with surgical tape, followed by a standard style blindfold being applied around the head before a black cloth bag is placed over your head and yet you will still be able to see well enough to perform miracles.

These are staples of the craft.

Edit: this is the original Mindfold:
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Mindfold Mask has a flexible, matte finish, black plastic face mask with soft foam padding & cutouts that allow you to experience Total Darkness, even with your eyes open! Adjustable hook and loop head strap allows for a comfortable fit.
 
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To me, the mask also seems to be sitting higher on her head than it should be.

Who takes a sleeping mask to lunch? Did she just happen to have this in her purse for naps or was she on the way to the airport and it was with her neck pillow?

Please no?!!???????

Oh yeah! As found in Dr. Hurtak's book The Keys of Enoch, discussed May 31 9:00am. Or one can just read about it on their website:
https://keysofenoch.org/dna-and-the-divine-names/
 
After the show, he revealed he was the editor of the satirical magazine Titanic, and that the trick would be disclosed in the next issue. It turned out he had simply peeked through the mask near his nose.

Yeah with the mask being off-center it looks like the facial foam padding around the nose cutout is actually resting right on the sidewall on his nose, creating a narrow gap for him to see through.

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She's wearing a "Mindfold". They used the same kind of mask in the "demonstrations" of kids reading, playing football and drawing in this video over on the other Telepathy Tapes thread. see #322

Yiiiiiiiiiikes. The video is sad. It's super obvious there's a gap the kids can see through. Look at the kid tilting his head back at 3:32 while the woman is also bringing the card closer and lowering it to make it easier for him to see. Check out how the kid at 2:59 throws her head back so she can look at the woman talking to everyone in the room.

They try to suggest the girl couldn't see what the dude was drawing even if she wasn't wearing a mask, but here's how he was holding the clipboard when he started drawing.

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There's an obvious edit at this point, because right at the moment he starts drawing we go to a different angle where the car is fully drawn.

In every instance of blindfolded "reading" the object is right where it would need to be if the kid was peeking through a gap at the edges of the mask, which is exactly what we see in the OPs video.
 
From @jackfrostvc's post here,
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Let's say the Telepathy Tapes etc. demonstrate that telepathic communication exists
(they don't).

How on earth would that also be
"...proving the existence of a Field of Quantum Consciousness"?

What is a Field of Quantum Consciousness, and why is it capitalized? When and where was it discovered? What are its properties?
Which physicists/ neurologists/ psychologists are researching it? How is it detected and measured? Can I have one?

Once those questions are answered, can Chris Ramsay explain how he knew that the Field of Quantum Consciousness (which we would all understand a lot better after his answers) was the explanation for telepathy?

Had someone, for example, ruled out linkage through a previously unobserved dimension, or the intervention of angels?
Maybe someone had demonstrated the presence of entangled particles in the brains of the participants without disturbing their quantum state. (This probably infringes Heisenberg's uncertainty principle or something, but we must be open-minded).

I'd be disappointed if it all turned out to be woo and the use of new-age jargon devoid of real meaning.
 
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Having both Diane Hennacy Powell and Chris Ramsay involved in this nonsense really exposes the extreme absurdity of it all.

Powell knows enough (or should) to control for unintentional manipulation.

Ramsay absolutely knows enough to control for intentional manipulation.

Yet even when working in tandem, they don't bother to implement controls against the SIMPLEST AND MOST OBVIOUS METHODS.

At least I can laugh at ufology rubbish which is mostly innocuous. This telepathetic autism crap, on the other hand, just pisses me off. It's right up there with psychic mediums pretending that dead people want to talk to their grieving relatives for fifty bucks.
 
@ 20:30 he says "It seems like this is pretty easy to fake" & that's the main takeaway here. Its INCREDIBLY easy to fake. It doesn't require any practise or experience. Some tricks require plenty of practise. This one's about as easy as it gets.
Dahlia did say in that restaurant clip that everyone can do it! ;)
Yet even when working in tandem, they don't bother to implement controls against the SIMPLEST AND MOST OBVIOUS METHODS.
When playing games as kids, where someone had to be blindfolded, we gave them a pretend jab to the face to see if they would flinch. Super simple to do.
 
I found a video of the entire Psi Demonstration session from Contact in the Desert.



At 17:14 we see Dalia putting blue tape over her eyes before putting on the Mindfold mask, and then at 22:33 she puts eyepatches over the blue tape. She now has three layers of blindfolds, we are told, making it impossible for her to see anything!

But then there's a very telling moment at 26:47 when a random guy from the audience selects a passage of text from a book for Dalia to read. He holds the book up to her with the cover facing outward but then indicates his finger is pointing to the sentence he selected INSIDE the book.

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Dalia responds by saying "Well, I have to turn it around to read it (unintelligible) yeah, I can do that too, but not right now." Then she reads the sentence the guy is pointing at.

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Was the guy with the book a little skeptical about her supposed mind powers? Seems like it. It also seems like Dalia was trying to suggest she has the ability to "see" things that are hidden from her, but couldn't do it at that exact moment for some unexplained reason. Uh huh, very convincing.

The three layers of blindfolds is exactly the kind of gimmick that @Ann K mentioned earlier. Give your upper cheek muscles and eyelids a bit of a workout and the blue tape will pull away from your skin and leave a gap to see through. The eyepatches are actually quite a bit wider than the blue tape and come down lower on her face, as we see here:

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Buuuuut when she puts the Mindfold mask back on she uses it to push the eyepatches upward and you can see the blue tape poking out where it was previously covered by the patch. You can also see a shadow under the blue tape where it has pulled away from her skin. The Mindfold mask is also sitting very high on her head.

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I haven't bothered watching the rest of the session yet, I just jumped to the part I was interested in seeing. I originally thought it was the autistic daughter onstage that was somehow telepathically reading passages of books being held by people in the audience, but nope, it was the mother out in the audience with the books shoved directly in her face.
 
I'm a professional magician and the author of dozens of books on magical deception. I worked with Randi on several occasions to debunk the psychic grifters. These are tricks and Chris Ramsay knows that. He has joined the grift as there is more money in UFOs than solving puzzles or card tricks.
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Dalia responds by saying "Well, I have to turn it around to read it (unintelligible) yeah, I can do that too, but not right now."

"I can do that too, but not right now". My guess is she never got around to it.

This is just like recently when Rogan asked Oz Pearlman to do the PIN trick again but for Joe's other card. Pearlman says he can do it but "not yet". He'll do it "Before we go". He never gets around to it, because he doesn't know Joe's other PIN.
I've done the same thing myself when performing card magic tricks using a memorized deck. I'll do some tricks, then I'll do one that lets the spectators shuffle the deck destroying the order of my "stack" before going into my "impromptu" card tricks. If they ask for me to repeat a trick that needs the stack I say "later", then I conveniently never get around to it because I can't do it. On a few occasions I've dived into a nearby toilet cubicle and frantically rearranged my stack while whistling loudly, but that's venue-dependent.

I can confirm, @Ben Harris is a legend in the magic community.
 
There are two big differences here:
1. Mentalists v psychics - they're polar opposites. Ramsay was a mentalist but is now promoting psi.
2. Kids are involved. If he's not a true believer, that means he's exploiting that child. (I don't know the age of the person on stage but the TT as a whole includes underage people.) If he is a true believer I suppose he might say it's worth exploiting the child for the good of mankind.

Given how the people involved in the TTs act toward skepticism (specifically debunking), he must've led the people on stage to believe he was not intending to debunk them. So either he lied, or he is a true believer.
Ramsay was never a mentalist. He is a card magician and puzzler. Mentalism is not his forte. Randi, decades ago, made it clear that not all magicians are qualified to critic acts of pretend Telepathy.
 
@17:34 she puts the blindfold on, pulls it down over her nose into what would logically be the most comfortable and sensible spot (where the bridge of the nose meets the gap created for it in the blindfold design), but she then immediately adjusts it, pushing it back up into a spot which makes no sense. Its obvious to me that the only reason to do this is to enable the ability to peek. (I love the "convincer" she does of initially putting the blindfold on upside down, because she can't see it, right?) She's absolutely letting the mask ride too high up her face, and she keeps tilting her head back at exactly the moments I'd be doing so to peek. I love illusions, but only when the audience knows what they're paying for!! When its presented as real, its painful to watch.

@18:46, at the precise moment she'd need to peek at the colour of the pen being chosen by the spectator, she tilts her head back (to better enable the peek). After the card has been written on, her helper moves it past & behind her, at which time she turns her head hard right (to better enable the peek). Its almost like she knows exactly where he's moving the card! He then shows her the card directly, holding it relatively low, in the perfect spot for her to peek without tilting her head back. He then goes to take her hand and she immediately holds her hand out and looks downward directly at his hand. I could go on...

A problem with the "third eye" logic: Notably, if we grant that she has to look towards things for her third eye to see them, its obviously a given that her third eye can see THROUGH the blindfold. So why can't her third eye also see, for example, through the back of a card that's been written on? Or through an envelope its been placed in? No. Apparently her third eye can see through the blindfold & only the blindfold, but unfortunately, not anything else. She still has to have the card with the writing on shown directly to her for her third eye to be able to read it. :confused: Perhaps third eye logic just doesn't work in logical ways. Its hard to tell, since mine clearly doesn't work at all.
 
@17:34 she puts the blindfold on, pulls it down over her nose into what would logically be the most comfortable and sensible spot (where the bridge of the nose meets the gap created for it in the blindfold design), but she then immediately adjusts it, pushing it back up into a spot which makes no sense. Its obvious to me that the only reason to do this is to enable the ability to peek. (I love the "convincer" she does of initially putting the blindfold on upside down, because she can't see it, right?) She's absolutely letting the mask ride too high up her face, and she keeps tilting her head back at exactly the moments I'd be doing so to peek. I love illusions, but only when the audience knows what they're paying for!! When its presented as real, its painful to watch.

@18:46, at the precise moment she'd need to peek at the colour of the pen being chosen by the spectator, she tilts her head back (to better enable the peek). After the card has been written on, her helper moves it past & behind her, at which time she turns her head hard right (to better enable the peek). Its almost like she knows exactly where he's moving the card! He then shows her the card directly, holding it relatively low, in the perfect spot for her to peek without tilting her head back. He then goes to take her hand and she immediately holds her hand out and looks downward directly at his hand. I could go on...

A problem with the "third eye" logic: Notably, if we grant that she has to look towards things for her third eye to see them, its obviously a given that her third eye can see THROUGH the blindfold. So why can't her third eye also see, for example, through the back of a card that's been written on? Or through an envelope its been placed in? No. Apparently her third eye can see through the blindfold & only the blindfold, but unfortunately, not anything else. She still has to have the card with the writing on shown directly to her for her third eye to be able to read it. :confused: Perhaps third eye logic just doesn't work in logical ways. Its hard to tell, since mine clearly doesn't work at all.
Yep. The down the sides of the nose "peek" is an established technique. Good performers have coins taped over their eyes first as a convincer.
 
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