Synchronicity - What's your experience of it?

[deirdre]

wtf?

its good in old age to stretch your brain outside your comfort levels.

ponder on it a bit. add: you can ponder both really, but i meant ponder my waterfall comment and what i was responding to.

 

[Ann K]

says the woman who paints waterfalls.

Non sequitur.

 

[GM4AJK]

its good in old age to stretch your brain outside your comfort levels.

ponder on it a bit. add: you can ponder both really, but i meant ponder my waterfall comment and what i was responding to.

I pondered it for a bit and decided my next best step is to find out what you're smoking, so I can buy some too

 

[deirdre]

I pondered it for a bit

Don't give up so easily. You can get this. (although being stoned would likely help you immerse in the thought flow)

 

[Giddierone]

says the woman who paints waterfalls

Whatever this is about it has no place or value here.

 

[john.phil]

Don't give up so easily. You can get this. (although being stoned would likely help you immerse in the thought flow)

Hopefully not double meaning (being stoned).

About the off-topic riddle: "I gave you a sense of beauty so you can appreciate what I have done"?

 

[deirdre]

Hopefully not double meaning (being stoned).

About the off-topic riddle: "I gave you a sense of beauty so you can appreciate what I have done"?

lol to the first observation.

you got the beauty part right, (but without any God stuff). Beauty is something greater than the finite world. Jung may discuss such things as well... meaning what is beauty? why do we perceive beuaty? it's not tangible ie. part of the finite world. it's subjective like synchronicity. can comfort our souls etc.

 

[deirdre]

Whatever this is about it has no place or value here.

maybe you can be more clear then about how people are discussing your topic "wrong". people gave their examples. people bashed on it for pages stating in various ways that it is just coincidence.

so... what part of the topic do you want us discussing? why we psychologically find meaning in the things we find meaning in? How to design a study (even though a hundred years have passed and men in the field havent thought of a way to design a study).

 

[Dave51c]

meaning what is beauty? why do we perceive beuaty?

If not already aware of it, you might be interested to read about Wabi Sabi. It is not classical western beauty.

Characteristics of wabi-sabi aesthetics and principles include asymmetry, roughness, simplicity, economy, austerity, modesty, intimacy, and the appreciation of natural objects and the forces of nature.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabi-sabi

There are 8 billion people on Earth, and by that 1 in a million chance events occur to 8000 people every day.

Regardless for how population numbers are sliced and diced is synchronicity actually a chance event. Isn't that what we are trying to flesh out. Out of the potential 8 Billion recipients for a synchronistic event how many will actually be 'in a state of mind' to perceive it as such if such a state is required in the first place.

Personally, I don't ever remember anything resembling a synchronistic event before my early teens, but I still remember some that followed later in life. Not suggesting there is meaning to any of that but my brain 'placed a weight' against it in memory once I was aware of the experience of such an event. Also, how many synchronistic events didn't even register as such? Why would they not stand out. Where 'conditions' not right.

I've been fairly neutral in my lack of understanding of this topic - I didn't feel the need to invoke a call to a higher power and preferred to stay in the realm of science/philosophy, but I do find hand waving this topic away as pure woo to be a lazy argument. But acknowledge it's a woo adjacent area that can get pretty out there pretty fast.

How the hell anyone could design a valid study into this is unclear. I often wonder if consciously waiting for a synchronistic event collapses the 'chance' of that happening.

 

[GM4AJK]

Regardless for how population numbers are sliced and diced is synchronicity actually a chance event. Isn't that what we are trying to flesh out.

How the hell anyone could design a valid study into this is unclear.

The point I was trying to make is that we know that many coincidences do happen every day, and occasionally, remarkable coincidences happen:-

In 1992 Jason Pegler, was walking home from work in Dover when he heard a public phone ringing. He picked it up and was startled to hear the voice of a colleague, Sue Hamilton, apologising for disturbing him and asking for advice about how to work the office fax machine. He had great difficulty in persuading her of what had happened - until she looked down at her desk and realised that she had dialled his staff number by mistake. It just happened to be the number of the call box he just happened to be walking past.

The question then becomes, at what point does a simple coincidence turn into a memorable synchronicity event? That conversion (if it is a conversion and not actually a higher power signalling something) takes place in the mind of the observer. Indeed, how would one design/build a study to figure that out? I don't know, but it seems like a challenge to me.