Sergei Skripal 'Nerve Agent' Attack

derwoodii

Senior Member.
Yes agree and im trying to test this claim from article as suspect its not correct and cannot find even a paraphrase or link to Mirzayanov and the claim only counter claim that its tricky agent to make from others .


http://syriapropagandamedia.org/doubts-about-novichoks

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-13/novichok-nerve-agents-and-how-theyre-linked-to-russia/9541882

 
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deirdre

Senior Member.
test this claim from article as suspect its not correct and cannot find even a paraphrase or link to Mirzayanov and the claim only counter claim that its tricky agent to make from others .
I'm not clear on what you are asking. I googled your quote since you didn't provide a link.. and the source is in the first link I clicked
http://syriapropagandamedia.org/doubts-about-novichoks
 

derwoodii

Senior Member.
I'm not clear on what you are asking. I googled your quote since you didn't provide a link.. and the source is in the first link I clicked
Ops sorry i wasted your time as in my word phase search missed the below & was cited to Mirzayanov.. The easy to make is claim contrary to sourced others who say novichok is basic compounds but tricky deadly to formulate..

 

derwoodii

Senior Member.
The Australian Russian ambassador is painting himself into a corner with his claims while adding who has seen Sergei Skripol since event. Well true no media coverage yet of Sergei in hospital bed but I await street CCTV camera of the car and scene..


Russia's ambassador questions evidence of Salisbury attack or any Kremlin involvement
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-...uestions-evidence-of-salisbury-attack/9596016

 

deirdre

Senior Member.
The easy to make is claim contrary to sourced others who say novichok is basic compounds but tricky deadly to formulate
I think you are misreading the Mirzayanov quote due to all the "or"s in the sentence structure.

Bottom line, "what one man can do, another can do".

Provided of course you have the formula. Whether another country had the formula used in the attack, is the question. (that I doubt can ever be answered definitively unless the OPCW actually finds that compound in other countries/ non Russian labs)

 

Mick West

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I'm not sure this is valid either. They might have obtained a sample (perhaps from some other poisoning event), or they might be able to detect some of the components, but not all of them, sufficient to identify it.
 

deirdre

Senior Member.
I'm not sure this is valid either. They might have obtained a sample (perhaps from some other poisoning event), or they might be able to detect some of the components, but not all of them, sufficient to identify it.
one of the sciency articles I read said they can take spinal fluid.. but I cant find it now.
this article says basically the same
But yea, you don't have to develop 'tests' for them. you just need to look at a sample and it if looks vaguely similar to other alleged/proposed structures of Novichoks (and doesn't look like any other known nerve agents), one could assume it is Novichok I think.
 
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