Is this bright ball of light a star or an airliner?

[Mick West]

Here, I've stabilized it on the light and sped up 10x

 

[Ann K]

You were talking about turning? I thought maybe we'd switched subjects from parallax to perspective.

Looking out the left window during a right turn - You'd see everything moving to your left. Including the Moon or Sun.

If you looked across the aisle out the right window. - You'd see everything turning to your left.

...if your hand-held camera were in a fixed position and fixed angle.

 

[Scaramanga]

Here, I've stabilized it on the light and sped up 10x

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So the plane is effectively circling over a spot in the medium distant foreground that remains stationary in the field of view....if you replay the first few seconds over and over. In which case I'd expect to see 'Venus' move to the right...the whole night sky should be rotating 'clockwise'. But the alleged Venus doesn't rotate with it. It remains over the same spot. Which would mean our 'UFO' is directly over that centre of rotation spot, and nearby in the sky.

 

[flarkey]

I believe the plane was near Hangzhou Xiaoshan International Airport at the time the video was taken. It was beginning a turn to align it with the runway at Ningbo, which was the distant airport at that moment.


Red Arrow - Hangzhou Xiaoshan International Airport
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Green line - MW's updated and more accurate path of plane.

I think you're right, as was @Calter in Post #14.

Edit - the 'bendy road' isnt the rail bridge as we suspected , its this road in the distance ....

So that would mean the camera is pointing North East, directly towards flight CUA5151, but ADSBx again has intermittent data for this one. @Mick West - can you get a better Kml off FlightRadar24?

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?replay=2023-07-27-12:16&lat=29.670&lon=121.362&zoom=9.3

It departed Zhoushan airport at 12:11UTC, which is on an Island north east of Ningbo.

https://www.flightera.net/zh/flight_details/China+United+Airlines/KN5151/ZSZS/2023-07-26

The slight issue with this is that to get that view at the right altitude the camera has to be directly above Ningbo Airport - perhaps the flight CQH7432 had to hold before landing, or changed to land on the other runway, but I haven't found any evidence to confirm that yet.

 

[Mick West]

So that would mean the camera is pointing North East, directly towards flight CUA5151, but ADSBx again has intermittent data for this one. @Mick West - can you get a better Kml off FlightRadar24?

FR24 does not have any info on CUA5151 or KN5151
[Edit, although my Account has ben reset to Gold as my feeder stopped uploading. I'll have to reset it....]

 

[deirdre]

to get that view at the right altitude

what is the right altitude.? thats whats throwing me.

 

[flarkey]

Just to illustrate how congested the airspace around Ningbo Airport is, this is a screenshot of about 2hrs of apporaches and holding patterns to runway 13. Its very possible that our plane of interest had to do a missed approach or hold until it was given clearance to land.

 

[deirdre]

also @Starflint can you read [chinese?] ..your screenshot of the exif, is that a phone or a non-phone camera?

 

[Mick West]

FR24 does not have any info on CUA5151 or KN5151
[Edit, although my Account has ben reset to Gold as my feeder stopped uploading. I'll have to reset it....]

Got my Business account working again (I just had to reboot and wait for it to upload some data)

5151 does show up on replay, but there's no KML to download. Maybe because it was an incomplete track.

You can scrape the data from the FR24 track that is downloaded when you click on a plane. It looks like it would be relatively straightforward to load this in Sitrec - but I'm in the middle of some restructuring of the code right now, so it might be a while.

 

[Starflint]

also @Starflint can you read [chinese?] ..your screenshot of the exif, is that a phone or a non-phone camera?

That's a screenshot of the phone's original file message

 

[deirdre]

That's a screenshot of the phone's original file message

ok so you can read chinese and confirm it's a phone? i ask because camera times can be wrong, but typically phone times are accurate i think.