(Help)How to find the actual geographical locations of two suspected reflective UAPs？

[Starflint]

First Case:
Time: October 3, 1998 (The third day of China's National Day holiday)
Location: Somewhere on the hillside of the cemetery behind Qiongzhu Temple, Kunming, Yunnan
Overview: A railway worker named Han Jianwei was visiting family graves when, between 11:50 AM and 12:00 PM, he spotted an unusually bright point of light in the direction of the city center.and reappeared to the right of its previous position shortly after disappearing. He later observed the light split into nine diamond-shaped UFOs clustered together. Due to promotion by civilian UFO organizations at the time, this incident became one of the most well-known UFO cases in China.
YouTube Link:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs97LD41pB4

CCTV Video（Starting at13′33″）:
https://tv.cctv.com/2010/12/24/VIDEAZXz3A7O6i2TuYL68M9W101224.shtml
In case of inaccessible video files:

From some of the scenes shown in the video, I suspect this is once again a reflection from a towering building in a distant city.（Starting at15′33″）

google map:
https://earth.google.com/web/@25.07...HhsQ3AgAToDCgEwQgIIAEoICJyejrUCEAE?authuser=0
baidumap: https://map.baidu.com/search/驼峰飞行纪念碑/@11425076.124999998,2867050.9699999886,18.83z/maptype=B_EARTH_MAP?querytype=s&da_src=shareurl&wd=驼峰飞行纪念碑&c=1&src=0&pn=0&sug=0&l=4&b=(-4138582.039999999,-2973099.25;27318697.96,11952724.75)&from=webmap&biz_forward={"scaler":1,"styles":"pl"}&device_ratio=1

Official Introduction to the Memorial Tower：
https://www.krzzjn.com/show-1054-73742.html

Drone perspective of the monument：
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google map:
https://earth.google.com/web/@25.05...HhsQ3AgAToDCgEwQgIIAEoICJyejrUCEAE?authuser=0

baidumap:
https://j.map.baidu.com/6e/ECnM

There is an iconic structure here built in 1997: the Mianshan Radio Signal Tower, though I haven't found any information regarding its specific height. Perhaps this could be helpful in identifying the light spot??

Based on some of the scenes shown in the video, I have roughly reconstructed its filming locations：
25°04'38.54"N 102°37'26.73"E

I want to know what means or methods can be used to determine the precise shooting position and the actual positions of those two light points?

Another similar case:
Location: Antuco Volcano Crater, Chile
Time: 2021 (I'm not sure if the subtitle translation refers to Chile's National Independence Day?)

Original video source:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcYrK8GWpzU

As for the triangle behind the video, I believe it is nothing more than the result of a lens with a three-blade aperture magnifying an out-of-focus image, similar to the first case in Yunnan

It is not difficult to find the approximate filming location through the video footage; the young people are filming toward the valley to the west with their backs to the crater

https://earth.google.com/web/@-37.3...HhsQ3AgAToDCgEwQgIIAEoICNCMs8IBEAE?authuser=0

Similarly, I only found the approximate location of the light spot by comparing video frames, but there must be a significant margin of error. So, how can I determine the exact shooting location, and especially the precise position of that light spot (reflection)?

 

[Smythe Bacchus]

First Case:
Time: October 3, 1998 (The third day of China's National Day holiday)
Location: Somewhere on the hillside of the cemetery behind Qiongzhu Temple, Kunming, Yunnan
Overview: A railway worker named Han Jianwei was visiting family graves when, between 11:50 AM and 12:00 PM, he spotted an unusually bright point of light in the direction of the city center.and reappeared to the right of its previous position shortly after disappearing. He later observed the light split into nine diamond-shaped UFOs clustered together. Due to promotion by civilian UFO organizations at the time, this incident became one of the most well-known UFO cases in China.

From some of the scenes shown in the video, I suspect this is once again a reflection from a towering building in a distant city.

Based on some of the scenes shown in the video, I have roughly reconstructed its filming locations：
25°04'38.54"N 102°37'26.73"E

It appears the line of sight is from the cemetery to the southeast across Kunming city. Is this correct? To me, the reflected light source could be in the hills on the other side.

If this is the original camcorder, then a quick search suggested it is a Sony CCD-TRV512. These have 15x optical zoom, but also an additional 2x digital zoom for 30x max zoom.

Kunming light at maximum optical zoom?

Kunming light with optical + digital zoom?

Kunming light also briefly changed to blue.

The "splitting into 9" and color changes appears to be an artifact caused by digital zoom processing, which must surely have been quite primitive in these devices.

Perhaps someone who knows more about late 1990s camcorders could weigh in?

 

[Ann K]

Time: October 3, 1998 (The third day of China's National Day holiday)

A holiday ... Might it be from a distant fireworks display?

I agree that the diamond pattern is likely to be a camera artifact, but that means that his statement of "observing" that feature is untrue.

 

[Z.W. Wolf]

China
Tentatively... Appears to be a specular reflection of the Sun. Likely... a window. Or the side of a "glass box" building. Distant. The buildings in the distance aren't visible due to the haze/air pollution, but the Sun is bright enough to cut through the haze... and so is a specular reflection of the Sun.

There's the question of where Sun was in the sky relative to the camera. But that is a fruitless enquiry.
-We will never get a reliable time of day.
-Most of this footage is clearly a "reconstruction" of the event.
-The one bit of footage showing context, which has a good chance of being authentic to the sighting, shows a hazy sky and landscape with shadowless lighting. So no good clues about the angle of the sunrays.
-And anyway, just about any Sun angle is possible if the reflective surface is angled just right.

This has a good chance of being authentic to the sighting, rather than part of the reconstruction. But pretty useless. Except it shows that the object in question is not above the local horizon. So consistent with a distant object on the ground.

Doesn't seem to me to be worth any more effort.

 

[Ann K]

A holiday ... Might it be from a distant fireworks display?

I agree that the diamond pattern is likely to be a camera artifact, but that means that his statement of "observing" that feature is untrue.

I'm rethinking this. If indeed there are public celebrations on a holiday, a drone show might be another possibility. That would also go with the description of a "single object" breaking up.

 

[Starflint]

It appears the line of sight is from the cemetery to the southeast across Kunming city. Is this correct? To me, the reflected light source could be in the hills on the other side.

If this is the original camcorder, then a quick search suggested it is a Sony CCD-TRV512. These have 15x optical zoom, but also an additional 2x digital zoom for 30x max zoom.
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Kunming light at maximum optical zoom?
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Kunming light with optical + digital zoom?
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Kunming light also briefly changed to blue.
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The "splitting into 9" and color changes appears to be an artifact caused by digital zoom processing, which must surely have been quite primitive in these devices.
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Perhaps someone who knows more about late 1990s camcorders could weigh in?

Based on the limited camera parts visible in the program footage, I finally identified it as the Sony CCD-TRV14E, which was released in mainland China back in 1996. I managed to purchase this machine in near-mint condition for only about 241￥ (35.43 USD) on a Chinese second-hand trading app.

Then, I conducted multiple restoration tests by photographing architectural reflections. The glass atop the Olympic Tower near me always reflects intense sunlight. If the weather is clear and the sunlight is too strong, the reflection point does indeed turn into a diamond shape when adjusted to the maximum focal length in manual mode. However, it is still not enough to turn into nine points.

So finally, one early morning before the haze had dissipated, I captured the faint reflection points and eventually reconstructed that diamond pattern arranged in groups of nine. Furthermore, they would gradually disappear as the sun moved. However, I still don't have a detailed explanation for the optical principles of this lens, especially why the diamonds turned blue in the 1998 Kunming video.