Hello all,
Just wanted to make a thread to introduce myself. My names Rich and I am a skeptic. Besides researching already debunked or current theories, I have never tried to debunk anything other than trying to convince my hippie friends the science behind things. I figured I would try my first discussion here but not directly try and debunk something but point out how sometimes people try and create conspiracies using the wrong things as examples. I got into reading about bunk and conspiracies lately mostly due to friends on social media bombarding me with memes. Don't get me wrong I love a good meme, if it makes sense. I don't like memes that use imagery and words designed to elicit fear and/or anger as the first emotion. I say if someones intention is to get people mad or scared, at least have your facts right or use examples that make sense.
I couldn't for the life of me find a copy of the meme I will discuss, I will try and give the gist of it best I can. If anyone has the meme please post it. The meme talks about how there is a U.S. government (left wing?) conspiracy to suppress green or renewable energy and to prove this point they site Iceland as an example because Iceland produces 100% of its electricity with renewable energy. I don't know if the PTB are conspiring to hold anything back or not, I have not researched it all that much. My gripe is that Iceland's energy model is based on hydro and geothermal power, about 75% and 25% (depending on source) respectively. Geothermal also heats a large portion (87%) of homes and business. Right off the bat I say to myself the U.S. probably could produce that much hydro power but would we want to? I say no since that would require building more dams. Currently the U.S. produces about 66.8% of the renewable power through hydro and renewable only accounts for about 13% of energy in the U.S.
Just to put things into perspective, Iceland only has a population of about 325,000 and its hydro and geothermal plants produce a max of 1,155mw and 200mw respectively. The U.S. Produces more megawatts of renewable energy than Iceland by a long shot, just not 100% of its total output. Also a large portion of the power produce is used for aluminum mining and that process is not very green. For the simple reason that the amount of energy being produced is so small compared to the U.S. I believe using Iceland as an example for the conspiracy is a faulty one.
I hope this subject is not off topic at all. I invite anyone to give their thoughts, not only on what you think of this particular meme but if there are memes you have seen that you think are giving bunk or are misleading. Or just the overall influence memes are having in getting people to believe in bunk. I will also invite anyone's thoughts on if you think or don't think it is a conspiracy that renewable energy is being held back.
I hope the days of 100% green and renewable energy for the world are close.
http://www.icetradedirectory.com/english/industry_sectors_in_iceland/energy_in_iceland/
Just wanted to make a thread to introduce myself. My names Rich and I am a skeptic. Besides researching already debunked or current theories, I have never tried to debunk anything other than trying to convince my hippie friends the science behind things. I figured I would try my first discussion here but not directly try and debunk something but point out how sometimes people try and create conspiracies using the wrong things as examples. I got into reading about bunk and conspiracies lately mostly due to friends on social media bombarding me with memes. Don't get me wrong I love a good meme, if it makes sense. I don't like memes that use imagery and words designed to elicit fear and/or anger as the first emotion. I say if someones intention is to get people mad or scared, at least have your facts right or use examples that make sense.
I couldn't for the life of me find a copy of the meme I will discuss, I will try and give the gist of it best I can. If anyone has the meme please post it. The meme talks about how there is a U.S. government (left wing?) conspiracy to suppress green or renewable energy and to prove this point they site Iceland as an example because Iceland produces 100% of its electricity with renewable energy. I don't know if the PTB are conspiring to hold anything back or not, I have not researched it all that much. My gripe is that Iceland's energy model is based on hydro and geothermal power, about 75% and 25% (depending on source) respectively. Geothermal also heats a large portion (87%) of homes and business. Right off the bat I say to myself the U.S. probably could produce that much hydro power but would we want to? I say no since that would require building more dams. Currently the U.S. produces about 66.8% of the renewable power through hydro and renewable only accounts for about 13% of energy in the U.S.
Just to put things into perspective, Iceland only has a population of about 325,000 and its hydro and geothermal plants produce a max of 1,155mw and 200mw respectively. The U.S. Produces more megawatts of renewable energy than Iceland by a long shot, just not 100% of its total output. Also a large portion of the power produce is used for aluminum mining and that process is not very green. For the simple reason that the amount of energy being produced is so small compared to the U.S. I believe using Iceland as an example for the conspiracy is a faulty one.
I hope this subject is not off topic at all. I invite anyone to give their thoughts, not only on what you think of this particular meme but if there are memes you have seen that you think are giving bunk or are misleading. Or just the overall influence memes are having in getting people to believe in bunk. I will also invite anyone's thoughts on if you think or don't think it is a conspiracy that renewable energy is being held back.
I hope the days of 100% green and renewable energy for the world are close.
http://www.icetradedirectory.com/english/industry_sectors_in_iceland/energy_in_iceland/