Gary Cameron Clydebank, Scotland Video, 1st May 2015- Claim of aircraft not being on Flight Radar 24

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TEEJ

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In the following video Gary Cameron claims that the aircraft is not visible on Flight Radar 24.


After filming the aircraft Gary films Flight Radar 24 on his phone and claims the following.

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https://www.facebook.com/garycameron121/posts/933359546715123?pnref=story

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Contrary to what he claims the aircraft does appear on Flight Radar 24. I've ringed the aircraft in yellow.



Time of filming the phone with FR24 active is 2:12PM (British Summer Time) 13:12 (Greenwich Mean Time)



Blow up from video



The flight is Lufthansa Boeing 747 DLH446, Registration D-ABVS

http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH446/history/20150501/1125Z/EDDF/KDEN

http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH446/history/20150501/1125Z/EDDF/KDEN/tracklog

Flight Radar 24 snapshot with DLH446 labelled.



FR24 Playback.

http://www.flightradar24.com/2015-05-01/13:10/12x/DLH446/624e8bc



D-ABVS



From

http://www.luchtzak.be/forums/viewtopic.php?t=47372

Filming location in Clydebank, Scotland. You can see the distinctive light pole with sign.

https://goo.gl/maps/wzp1K





Gary assumes that the aircraft is directly overhead his filming location. In reality the Lufthansa Boeing 747 track is approximately 7 miles to the south.
 

deirdre

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In reality the Lufthansa Boeing 747 track is approximately 7 miles to the south
Do you remember which thread teaches us how to estimate the contrail distance with 'degrees above horizon'? that might be nice to add, so people can understand actual distance of contrails more. But I cant find it now. : (
 

Trailspotter

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Filming location in Clydebank, Scotland. You can see the distinctive light pole with sign.

https://goo.gl/maps/wzp1K





Gary assumes that the aircraft is directly overhead his filming location. In reality the Lufthansa Boeing 747 track is approximately 7 miles to the south.
Ingenuously, the Gary's video provides a 100% proof to this:D The plane passes below the Sun that is near its highest position in the sky on the date, ~50°. This means, the plane's elevation is only ~45°, that is, it is about the same distance from the camera, as its altitude, 7 miles.

Here is the Sun position calculator results for May 1st for Ayr about 35 miles to the south of Clydebank:
 
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derwoodii

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nice work Teej i will watch wait see what response is given.
I found there were 4 utube vids posted by gary on same topic & same video all just slightly different

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GregMc

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I gave him a nudge to comment on the discussion here. Hi Gary, what do you think of the findings of the posters here?
 
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Trailspotter

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nice work Teej i will watch wait see what response is given.
I found there were 4 utube vids posted by gary on same topic & same video all just slightly different

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Actually, these videos picture different flights:
This (CHGrBWaTkyU) pictures a flight that is farther away than one in the OP. It goes far lower relative the Sun, probably just at ~30°,
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and the blown up image of the plane shows it at larger angle from the vertical than in the OP:
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Looks like yet another Lufthansa B747 (DLH498) that passed about 10 miles to the south of Clydebank 10 minutes later:
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The third video pictures a two-engine plane with a non-persistent contrail:
Screen shot 2015-05-03 at 14.53.02.png

and the forth video shows just a long persistent trail, but no plane.
 
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