Debunked: There's a plot in this country to enslave every man, woman, and child. JFK

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Tsk tsk, I fear you may have overstepped my politeness policy there. But I'll leave your post alone, as it's a little amusing that in your indignation you did not notice that the misspelling I was referring to was in the above image where they misspelled "noble" as "nolbe"

Attacking spelling is a rather poor counter-argument. I only called it out here because it's a quote, and quotes should be spelt correctly.

And, as is often revealed by my own idiosyncratic spelling, I'm British by birth and American by naturalization.

BTW, "spelt" is a wheat... We can all see you guys have a thesaurus but how about a dictionary. Lol.
 
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If the quote was written in a book by an author or written by someone who heard JFK say it then it would be more legitimate.

As it is, Mick is right that it has no known history or origin.
I saw someone blathering about "believing everything you read," meanwhile the same person is fighting for the legitimacy of a quote that has no documented origin.

Mick is the only one being sensible on this thread. The rest of you look like Pussy Riot on Meth.

Read the argument and debate from there instead of making accusations and having two unrelated arguments about spelling.
Need I point out that in both spelling incidents it was the trollish accuser who was in the wrong.
 

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Here's all ten times Kennedy has used the term "enslave" while President:

April 28, 1961 : John F. Kennedy : 155 - Address in Chicago at a Dinner of the Democratic Party of Cook County.dilemmas that we face. Our great ally is the fact that people do desire to be free, that people will sacrifice everything in their desire to maintain their independence. And as the true nature of the Communist conspiracy becomes better known around the globe, when people come to realize--as they surely will-that the Communist advance does not represent a means of liberation but represents a final enslavement, then I believe that they will rally to the cause to which we have given our support and our commitment. I believe that we must build our country well, also. Senator Douglas described what we are attempting to do. The burdens are heavy upon us. We have to make this society an example to the world, strong enough to serve not only as an example but strong enough to maintain the commitme


August 30, 1961 : John F. Kennedy : 334 - The President's News Conference
a way to halt the waste of the earth's resources in the building of the implements of death and destruction, and the people of the United States have constantly pledged themselves to this goal. "We believe that the peoples represented at this conference are committed to a world society in which men have the right and the freedom to determine their own destiny, a world in which one people is not enslaved by the other, in which the powerful do not devour the weak. The American people share that commitment, and we have pledged the influence of this Nation to the abolition of exploitation in all of its forms. "The peoples represented at Belgrade are committed to achieving a world at peace in which nations have the freedom to choose their own political and economic systems and to live their


April 9, 1962 : John F. Kennedy : 131 - Message to President Macapagal of the Philippines on Bataan Day.
ed just twenty years ago on Bataan and Corregidor. Although physically defeated, their devotion to our common democratic principles added new meaning to those ideals and made possible the ultimate triumph of freedom and democracy in a vast area of the world. Our peoples are again united in spirit and in arms in a similar struggle against a new and much more subtle form of imperialism which would enslave us. Let no one overlook the lesson of Bataan that the strength of our common heritage and courage and devotion will prevail to bring free choice and justice to mankind. I look forward with pleasure to the opportunity the people of the United States soon will have to express personally to you and to the people of the Philippines their gratification and pride in the enduring partnership whi


October 14, 1962 : John F. Kennedy : 460 - Remarks at the Municipal Airport, Niagara Falls, New York.
I think that the anniversary which we celebrate today on his behalf has a particular significance to our country, because it reminds us for how long our country has been the great hope of people all over the world. I know that Americans sometimes become dissatisfied and discontented, but I think that, as citizens of this country, we should realize that the hope of the free world, the hope of the enslaved world, stretching all the way from northern Europe to southeast Asia, rests upon you, upon all of us, on 180 million Americans who've held back the Communist advance for over U years, and who, today, stand watch and ward for freedom in 40 or 50 different countries. That is a proud role which we did not seek, but from which we do not flinch. And I think it's most appropriate to remind our


March 18, 1963 : John F. Kennedy : 97 - Remarks Upon Arrival at the Airport, San Jose, Costa Rica.
responsibility in this hemisphere, in this Isthmus, in my own country in the 1960's, to demonstrate that economic prosperity is the handmaiden of political liberty. That is the responsibility of all of us. If we meet that responsibility, then this country and all countries like it in this hemisphere will remain free. If we do not meet this responsibility, then their inevitable fate will be one of enslavement by those who already have indicated their desire to crush out independence in this hemisphere. So this meeting is most vital, and I want you to know, Mr. President, that I come here today not only with the Members of the Congress and the Secretary of State and others, but I come here today with 180 million fellow Americans who want this hemisphere to be free, and who want this hemisph


May 9, 1963 : John F. Kennedy : 173 - Remarks at the Dedication of a Marker To Identify the Grave of Ignace Jan Paderewski.
land, enlisting President Wilson's help in securing a free Poland in the days following World War I, playing a role as Prime Minister in arguing the case of Poland at Versailles, and symbolizing, as he traveled through the world in the twenties and the thirties, the whole story, the long story, the extraordinary story of the Poles to maintain their freedom. He came here when Poland was once more enslaved, and died, and was, by instructions of President Franklin Roosevelt, buried in this cemetery. The understanding was that when Poland would one day be free again he would be returned to his native country. That day has not yet come, but I believe in this land of the free that Paderewski rests easily. We are proud to have him here.


June 10, 1963 : John F. Kennedy : 232 - Commencement Address at American University in Washington
viet text on Military Strategy and find, on page after page, wholly baseless and incredible claims--such as the allegation that "American imperialist circles are preparing to unleash different types of wars ... that there is a very real threat of a preventive war being unleashed by American imperialists against the Soviet Union ... [and that] the political aims of the American imperialists are to enslave economically and politically the European and other capitalist countries... [and] to achieve world domination ... by means of aggressive wars." Truly, as it was written long ago: "The wicked flee when no man pursueth." Yet it is sad to read these Soviet statements--to realize the extent of the gulf between us. But it is also a warning--a warning to the American people not to fall into the


June 26, 1963 : John F. Kennedy : 269 - Remarks in the Rudolph Wilde Platz, Berlin
, but your life is part of the main. So let me ask you, as I close, to lift your eyes beyond the dangers of today, to the hopes of tomorrow, beyond the freedom merely of this city of Berlin, or your country of Germany, to the advance of freedom everywhere, beyond the wall to the day of peace with justice, beyond yourselves and ourselves to all mankind. Freedom is indivisible, and when one man is enslaved, all are not free. When all are free, then we can look forward to that day when this city will be joined as one and this country and this great Continent of Europe in a peaceful and hopeful globe. When that day finally comes, as it will, the people of West Berlin can take sober satisfaction in the fact that they were in the front lines for almost two decades. All free men, wherever they


September 28, 1963 : John F. Kennedy : 390 - Remarks at the Convention Center in Las Vegas, Nevada.
hat have been more useful, than in looking at the United States once again and seeing something of the vitality of the country and the vitality of the people. You, as citizens of the United States, can take pride in the fact that for the last 18 years it has been the United States almost alone that has preserved the freedom of so much of the world. Without the United States today, Europe would be enslaved. Without the United States today, Asia would be overrun. Without the United States today, much of this hemisphere, which is still free, would have fallen. This is a tremendous burden and responsibility that we bear. We have been fortunate in the country given to us. We have been fortunate in the people who came here. We have been fortunate that we made in the years after the Second World


October 26, 1963 : John F. Kennedy : 441 - Remarks Upon Leaving Westover Air Force Base, Massachusetts.

to the members of their families who participate in the military life of this country. The United States has one million of its citizens serving outside of its borders, a record unprecedented in history, not for the purposes of aggression and conquest, but for the purposes of liberation. And there are dozens of countries now along the border of the Communist world which would long ago have been enslaved if it had not been for the planes which stand on this base and other bases, stretching around the globe, serving in SAC, ships which are far out of sight of land but which all contribute to the balance of forces on the side of freedom around the world. So we are very much indebted to you. This is a very prosperous country living at peace. And I hope the citizens of this country realize t
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And the two times he used "plot"
April 12, 1961 : John F. Kennedy : 119 - The President's News Conference to say that there will not be, under any conditions, an intervention in Cuba by the United States Armed Forces. This Government will do everything it possibly can, and I think it can meet its responsibilities, to make sure that there are no Americans involved in any actions inside Cuba. Secondly, the Justice Department's recent indictment of Mr. Masferrer, of Florida, on the grounds that he was plotting an invasion of Cuba, from Florida, in order to establish a Batista-like regime should indicate the feelings of this country towards those who wish to re-establish that kind of an administration inside Cuba. Third, we do not intend to take any action with respect to the property or other economic interests which American citizens formerly held in Cuba, other than formal and normal negotia


November 25, 1961 : John F. Kennedy : 483 - Transcript of Interview With the President by Aleksei Adzhubei, Editor of Izvestia.

rom you, because as you know, the future of the world depends in many respects on the relations between the United States and our country. Let the people decide what way of development they want to choose. However I would like to draw your attention to the following historical parallel. When the Bolsheviks, headed by V. I. Lenin, came to power, all the capitalist world was shouting that they were plotters and that there was no freedom in Russia but in 44 years our country became a great power. But this is not the issue. I would like to ask you another question-- THE PRESIDENT. You are a newspaper man and a politician. Mr. Adzhubei: In our country every citizen is a politician, because we like our country very much. The young and the old like the socialist system of our country and we are
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Debunked I think not, more like preserving the Disinformation status.
 
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Mick, would you please tell me why you are helping to destroy the world?
Think your soul likes that?
Doesn't matter If he said that Quote infront of a microfon, he was definitely thinking it, otherwise he wouldn't have replaced the Federal Reserve Note against a United States Note for the first time since this private fake money, which now rules the world, was established in 1912 under mystical circumstances.
There are people who hold the power of the money, therefore over the politicians, therefore over the media, and therefore over you and the entire world, and they are destroying it because of this system they created. Wake the fuck up dude, and don't be such a petty prick.
Put your energy into saving the world, it can only be good for you, If you are smart enough to understand, instead of over eagerly trying to be a smart ass "don't further your causes with stuff that wakes people up"
Like I said, it doesn't matter if he said it or not. Those people hold the power over google etc. as well. What the hell do think dude? They want to keep they power. How do you think they succeeded in doing so since 1912? By handing out smarties?
Sorry for being so harsh.
Have a good one.

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Doesn't matter If he said that Quote infront of a microfon, he was definitely thinking it, otherwise he wouldn't have replaced the Federal Reserve Note against a United States Note for the first time since this private fake money, which now rules the world, was established in 1912 under mystical circumstances.

The point of my post was to demonstrate that he did not say it. Maybe you can read the mind of a man who died 50 years ago. I cannot.
 
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Doesn't matter If he said that Quote infront of a microfon

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Yeah, it kinda does, if you want proof of the claim that -he said that-

Otherwise you're lying in your claim that he said it.

You're also lying to another fellow being and seeker of truth and justice. That hurts your soul.
 
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Nice work Mic, I like your logic about scanning old books etc.
 
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Sorry. But I find both conspiracy theorists and debunkers to be EXACTLY the same people. Both support different theories, true. However, both have plenty in common: they twist or outright misinterpret the facts; they find what will fit their argument and ignore all else; they are stubborn to the point of being irrational; they dismiss those who don't believe as they do with (if not disdain / contempt or panic) condescension and an air of long-suffering. There's more, but it will change nothing. There are plenty of others with the same tendencies including Left-Wing versus Right-Wing (on virtually EVERY political issue)....and of course....Religious Denominations of ALL stripes. So to keep things hopping, here's something else to debunk:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces

Thank you for your time as well as your attention and consideration in this matter.
 
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There is actually and you can download the orginal recordings to listn to it. You sir are spreading lies!!!!!
 

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Did he ever say communist? Or are you puttig words in his mouth just like this quote? Im not a jfk historian but ive heard his conspiracy speech and i never heard him say the word communist, secondly, the same group of people that led the communist movement are the same people who now control this country..the elitist bankers ofthis world. In my "world view" there is no such thing as conspiracy theories, its truth or lies. Only because the govt denies something or doesnt tell u something doesnt mean its not true. Considering their track record of Being caught in a Few huge lies i dont think they deserve the benefit of the doubt. The only thing that is a lie in that quote is who said it, the words of that quote is truth. Considering the truth ofthat quote is infinetly more important then who actually said it, i could careless what methods are used to spread that message. The fact of the matter is humanity has been enslaved for 90% of human history, the group of people our founders beat in 1776 took the country back in 1913 when they created the federal reserve bank.

Firstly, elitist bankers and communism are poles apart, to suggest they started the communist movement in america is absurd. Secondly, "the words of that quote is truth", no, it is probably truth, not definitely; and statements like that are why people find it so easy to undermine conspiracy THEORIES (the clue is in the tittle). Thirdly, by saying "I could care less" you are saying that you DO care, not that you don't, that is not a grammatical error it is saying the exact opposite of what you are trying to say. Fourthly, I happen to know that none of the human beings alive in 1776 were alive in 1913, and if you are suggesting that the British control the federal reserve then you clearly haven't noticed that the USA is way more powerful than Britain. Finally, yes, JFK was referring to communism every time (on record) that he uses the word "conspiracy", that's not putting words in his mouth, just being aware of the political situation at the time.
 
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.... The fact of the matter is humanity has been enslaved for 90% of human history, the group of people our founders beat in 1776 took the country back in 1913 when they created the federal reserve bank.

Absolutely! What would happen if Americans demanded the abolition of the Federal Reserve?
 

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Absolutely! What would happen if Americans demanded the abolition of the Federal Reserve?

How are they going to do that?

Name one thing that Americans have ever "demanded".

The only way the federal reserve is going to be abolished is if a presidential candidate runs on the platform of abolishing it. Ron Paul tried it, and was rejected. Of course conspiracy theorists say this is all part of the conspiracy. But maybe there was some degree of people just not liking Ron Paul's policies?
 
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Sorry my brothers and sisters, you have to let this one go.

I am definatley a "conspiracy theorist", but not because I'm angry at the world and want to blame something. What the admin has done here is a wonderful thing... He has cleared away some of the crud that is endlessly flung at you in your search for truth. Don't hate him for it! Thank him for it, you ingrates.

Someone falsley lending a name with gravity to a quote they wish to resonate is the last thing you should be wanting or defending. That is something all facist regimes have done in order to further their own agendas, and is a hell of a bad starting point if you want change. Lies like this will only lead to faux revolutions. This is basic Orwell here guys, come on... What did Winston do? He re-wrote the past to suit the current goals of the party. Do you really want to have any part of such evil tactics?

Truth, for truth's sake. Truth is it's own end. This is not a war of opinions, this is a war for our very humanity, and pure, honed truth is the first weapon we need to wield. If half the conspiracy theorists out there had half the follow through that the admin does, we'd be bloody done by now.

Ben Skinner, Australia (Screw anonymity)
 
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Spelt is something you eat............the correct word is SPELLED
Spelled vs. spelt

In American English, spelt primarily refers to the hardy wheat grown mostly in Europe, and the verb spell makes spelled in the past tense and as a past participle. In all other main varieties of English, spelt and spelled both work as the past tense and past participle of spell, at least where spell means to form words letter by letter or (with out) to make clear. Outside the U.S., the two forms are interchangeable in these senses, and both are commonly used.
 
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But the only source of this quote is the internet, about eight years ago. Before that it did not exist ANYWHERE.

Why would you give credence to some quote that suddenly cropped up on the internet? With zero sources?

Nobody claims to have heard this. Nobody exists who even suggests they think they heard someone say they heard it. It simply appeared on the internet one day.

Of course he might have said it. But he might also have said "I am an alien from Mars". There's the exact same amount of evidence for that too.

To say that nobody exists who even suggests they think they heard someone say they heard it is a real stretch. It is very possible that someone does exist who has either heard it or knows someone who heard it, but they are simply living out there lives in some quiet town somewhere.
 

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To say that nobody exists who even suggests they think they heard someone say they heard it is a real stretch. It is very possible that someone does exist who has either heard it or knows someone who heard it, but they are simply living out there lives in some quiet town somewhere.

Sure, but you could say that about anything, any quote. For example, maybe Kennedy said this quote:

[bunk]"I fully support performing medical experiments on poor black people without their knowledge, for the greater good." JFK. July 3rd, 1962 [/bunk]

Maybe he said that too, or any number of an infinite things that anyone can just make up.

The entire point here is that there is no evidence that he said it.
 
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Thanks. There are lots of references to it on various internet pages. That does not change the fact that it's fake.

Idk, I'm starting to feel a bit enslaved these days maybe it wasn't bs
 
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The unregistered commenter is correct. I stopped reading 3/4 down however..
The corrupt banksters(rothschild family ect) and rulers of the "free world" could have easily removed this speech or something to that effect,from society. So that no one opens their eyes. There's a reason for everything and what you and I think we believe isn't always the case. If FBI( and civilians) can add edit or delete info on wiki ... If the us gov can destroy documents that incriminate them.. Do you see my point?
There is far more evil than good it seems in this world and if this JFK quote is actually fake,so be it. Let it join the ranks of every news broadcast on tv. Every radio station. Every newspaper. Every mother who was told her soldier died for "freedom"
Don't believe the lies a corrupt "pod" spews.
 
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[This page is wack ... Do ppl really use this as a reference ... I mean there pulling info to debunk it from the INTERNET ! REALLY LOL GOD U PPL SEEN THE COMMERCIAL WHERE THE GIRL THINKS INTERNET IS A GOOD SOURCE OF INFO ?And she was being dUped!? hahaha pretty much what this site is .... i mean believe what u want , but idc who these ppl are i wouldn't trust what they fucking say ...Did they know the president ? No so unless he comes back from the grave i dont believe he didnt
 
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[This page is wack ... Do ppl really use this as a reference ... I mean there pulling info to debunk it from the INTERNET ! REALLY LOL GOD U PPL SEEN THE COMMERCIAL WHERE THE GIRL THINKS INTERNET IS A GOOD SOURCE OF INFO ?And she was being dUped!? hahaha pretty much what this site is .... i mean believe what u want , but idc who these ppl are i wouldn't trust what they fucking say ...Did they know the president ? No so unless he comes back from the grave i dont believe he didnt

Just wanted to say hello to the unregistered commenter guy on the page. Keep up the good work.
 
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After reading this entire thread, im left with one question: do the ends justify the means?
If they do, then I see nothing wrong with misattributing quotes in order to lend a message power, infringing on civil liberties to make our society more safe, and any other practice that would, "destroy the village to save it." On the other hand, if the means take priority, it becomes harder to justify taking the expedient approach. One of these ideologies is a tyrants best friend, the other is a roadmap to a more genuine society.

Comically ironic is the call of those who, in one breath, would condemn the power structure, or NWO if you prefer, for its ruthless allegience to the ends, while advocating for that same practice the next time they exhale.
If the forces that control the world are as powerful as the Alex Jones' of the world would have u believe, we have no hope of defeating them. Our only saving grace will b an allegience to the principals of truth, integrity, and self-respect.

Oh...and all you grammer nazi's need to go sell that crap in an english class. everytime you attack someone's spelling, all your saying is, "Im not smart enough to come up with a legitimate counter-argument, so I'll just act like a little kid and pretend that im psychologically-dominant because I write accoding to "the rules."

Lets evolve past this pettiness, lets find a way to fight back with dignity.

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Mick, I appreciate what you are doing here and I feel sorry for the people commenting who just can't seem to wrap their minds around the purpose of debunking this quote. I like the quote, I am not going to assume that JFK held this opinion just because it sounds good. There is no source and there for it is debunked. Move on people : )
 
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CIA has been known for redacting information from the register for years. The fact you can't find the source might be considered by some to be clear evidence of a coverup. It is very interesting to me how popular the word coverup is...
 
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Communism was certainly no secret to the public at the time of JFK's speech. On the other hand, Zionism, the CFR, ADL, AIPAC, RIIA, Club of Rome, Committee of 300, Bilderbergs and Skull and Bones were largely unknown. Eisenhower warned the public about the threat from the military industrial complex. Commies? Perhaps, but not in the sense of Castro's regime. Connect the dots.

Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

"Operation Zapata" (aka 'The Cuba Project') was initiated and developed during the Eisenhower administration and pushed on Kennedy. (Telling him it was in the "national security interest" to do it) Most of this didn't come to light until the discovery of an internal CIA Report on the "Cuba Project", which had been kept hidden for over 35 years. (published in a Baltimore Sun article, (p. 6A, Feb. 22, 1998), headlined "Internal Probe Blamed Bay of Pigs Fiasco on CIA."

The Sun article went on to state:

"The 150-page report, released after sitting in the CIA Director's safe for nearly three decades, blames the disastrous attempt to oust Fidel Castro not on President John F. Kennedy's failure to call airstrikes, but on the agency itself. The CIA's ignorance, incompetence, and arrogance toward the 1,400 exiles it trained and equipped to mount the invasion was responsible for the fiasco, said the report, obtained by the Associated Press yesterday.

The document criticized almost every aspect of the CIA's handling of the invasion: misinforming Kennedy administration officials, planning poorly, using faulty intelligence and conducting an overt military operation beyond 'agency responsibility as well as agency capability'.

The actual materials which appeared in the book, 'The Bay of Pigs Declassified', edited by Peter Kornbluh of the National Security Archive, gave all the sordid details behind the scheme and how Kennedy got sucked into it. In particular, the Report noted [Re: Agency (CIA) dysfunction (p. 53)] that The Agency committed at least four extremely serious mistakes:

i) Failure to subject the project, especially in its latter, frenzied stages to a cold and objective appraisal by the best talent available before submitting the final plan to Kennedy

ii) Failure to advise the President, at an appropriate time, that the mission's success had become dubious- and to recommend the operation therefore be canceled.

iii) Failure to recognize the project had become overt and that the military effort had become too large to be handled by the Agency alone

iv) Failure to reduce successive project plans (dating back to 1959) to formal papers and to leave copies with the President and his advisors, to request specific written approval, confirmation thereof.

The section goes on to note:

"The timely and objective scrutiny of the operation in the months before the invasion - including study of all available intelligence would have demonstrated to Agency officials that the clandestine paramilitary preparations had almost totally failed and there was no responsive underground Cuban force ready to ally with the invaders."

The commentary is even more critical of the CIA after noting that the US Intelligence Board, the Office of National Estimates, and Office of Current Intelligence all provided clear warning that a careful reappraisal was needed. Kennedy's error was in assuming the CIA had done such reappraisal to its best professional ability, but they did not.

"The choice was between retreat without honor and a gamble between ignominious defeat and dubious victory. The Agency chose to gamble, at rapidly decreasing odds."

The consensus position of the Archivists was that JFK was misled by the Agency's arrogance, hubris and incompetence. Depending on the CIA for guidance as to intelligence about this operation - in preparation for more than two years, the Agency blew it and big time. JFK took the blame, yes, but the CIA ultimately was responsible for not advising cancellation when they had the opportunity to do so.

As one reads through the rest of the book, one sees the possible links to the Kennedy assassination, and the putative role of the CIA (JFK fired Top Spook Allan Dulles right after the fiasco and vowed to smash the Agency into a "thousand pieces") as well as disaffected Rightist Cuban hirelings, po'd that Kennedy didn't provide air cover. In fact, any added air cover would have made virtually no difference and Cuban anti-aircraft batteries would plausibly have simply fired on any attacking planes, adding to the death toll.

Kennedy did assume full public responsibility for what he too considered a disaster, as he should have. Privately, though, he blamed the CIA, and fired the three top men in the agency responsible for the operation: Director Allen Dulles, Deputy Director Gen. P. Cabell, and Deputy Director for Plans (now called Operations) Richard Bissell. Immediately after the failed invasion, on April 22, Kennedy ordered Gen. Maxwell Taylor, the President's special military representative, Admiral Arleigh Burke, the Chief of Naval Operations, Dulles, and Robert Kennedy, the Attorney General, to conduct a full investigation of why the invasion had failed. This was submitted on June 13, 1961, but did not become available to the public until twenty years later, when a transcript of the report was published as a book called Operation Zapata (University Publications of America, 1981). "Operation Zapata" was the code name for the invasion.

This report merits close scrutiny for a number of reasons, particularly in view of the mountain of literature published on the subject which is inaccurate and based on material written by or elicited from participants, like Dulles and Bissell, who had every reason to present a skewed image of the truth.

The first thing to keep in mind is that Kennedy would not have ordered this investigation if he felt he were truly responsible. He knew what he had and had not done, and obviously that did not go very far toward explaining how things had gone so wrong.

The second thing to remember is that the report resulted in the firing of Dulles, Cabell, and Bissell, so there can be no doubt whom JFK did blame.

On a related subject, the fact that Israel has a nuclear reactor facility in the Negev desert is still a secret to some. It shows what a splendid job our government and their media toadies have done to keep the public in the dark about what Israel is doing with all the money we send them. Meanwhile, Israel has the gall to condemn others for having nuclear capabilities, even though there isn't evidence that countries like Iran intend on building bombs with it.

Another suppressed piece of history surrounds former Israeli nuclear technician Mordechai Vanunu, who was kidnapped by the Mossad, charged with espionage and treason and incarcerated for 18 years in prison, including 11 in solitary confinement for reporting Israel's nuclear program.

"Many critics argue that Vanunu had no additional information that would pose a real security threat to Israel, and that the Israeli government's real motivation is a desire to avoid political embarrassment and financial complications for itself and allies such as the United States. By not acknowledging possession of nuclear weapons, Israel avoids a US legal prohibition on funding countries which proliferate weapons of mass destruction. Such an admission would prevent Israel from receiving over $2 billion each year in military and other aid from Washington."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanun

"The trial was kept in the most absolute secrecy. I was alone with my lawyer. I was condemned for espionage and high treason. Authorities took revenge by keeping me isolated during the entire trial process. They would not authorize anyone to talk to me and I was banned from speaking to the press, which published a lot of distorted information about me. The Israeli government used all its media influence to brainwash public opinion and the judges, who were finally convinced that I had to be sent to jail. Therefore the trial took place secretly and the press had no access to the truth, they could not hear me. The people were convinced that I was a traitor, a spy, a criminal. There was not an atom of justice in that trial. But it was not only the trial. The cruelest thing was the isolation inside the prison. They did not only punish me by putting me into jail but also by keeping me completely isolated, by constantly spying on me and by applying vicious and cruel treatments. They tried to make me feel in despair and make me regret what I had done. I was held incommunicado for 18 years and I was in complete isolation for 11 years and a half. The first year, they put cameras in my cell and they kept the light on for three consecutive years! Their spies constantly hit me and they would not let me sleep. I was subjected to a very cruel treatment. They tried to break me into submission. My goal was to survive and I made it!" - Mordechai Vanunu in an interview with Swiss journalist Silvia Cattori.

Silvia Cattori: It seems that in the 1960s, President Kennedy asked that inspections be carried out in Dimona, Israel. Do you see any links between that request and his assassination?

Mordechai Vanunu: In believe that, at that time, the United States opposed the Israeli nuclear program. Kennedy tried to stop Israel but he was assassinated before he could do it. For me, his assassination had to do with the proliferation of nuclear weapons in Israel and in other countries. Those who killed him were in favour of nuclear proliferation. Thanks to his death, proliferation continued. In fact, presidents Johnson and Nixon, who succeeded Kennedy, saw no inconvenience with that. They let Israel act. We can simply see that there was a change in that direction after Kennedy’s assassination…
http://www.silviacattori.net/article2533.html

Nuclear weapons and Israel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel

A Scientific Panel For Determining Health Effects Among Radiation Workers At Israel's Nuclear Research Facilities.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1469919/

Dimona’s Buried Nuclear Waste Spreads Cancer and Sterility in Southern Hebron and Negev
http://stgvisie.home.xs4all.nl/VISIE/dimona.html

"Once you realize Israel itself today is a country... with nuclear weapons... the view that Iran can pose an existential threat that is presently being advanced by Prime Minister Netanyahu and some people in his cabinet... that view is highly problematic... Israel today is much more advanced and much stronger than Iran is today. Israel already has nuclear weapons... for years... and many... on submarines, missiles, and perhaps can be delivered by aircraft. Iran does not have any of that." - Avner Cohen (Conversations with History) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV9buFcMdEI

"Like John Kennedy's government before it, the Johnson administration believed that it would be a mistake to allow Israel to develop nuclear weapons, and thus tried to keep Israel at the 'threshold' status." - "Clear and Present Danger" - Haaretz, Oct.29, 2010
http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/magazine/clear-and-present-danger-1.321772

"David Ben-Gurion, Prime Minister of the Zionist State, until he resigned on June 16, 1963, was unhappy about John F. Kennedy not wanting to help the Zionist State become a nuclear power. Ben-Gurion was concerned about a possible cut-off of US foreign aid because the Zionist State and Red China were using US foreign aid money and stolen US secrets to jointly develop nuclear weapons. According to Michael Piper, in Ben-Gurion's final days in office he commanded the Mossad to become involved in an effort to remove John F. Kennedy from his job as manager of the US federal government." - Summary of 'Final Judgment' by Larry McCart
http://www.qsc.cc/piper.htm

"The murder of American President John F. Kennedy brought to an abrupt end the massive pressure being applied by the U.S. administration on the government of Israel to discontinue the nuclear program. Had Kennedy remained alive, it is doubtful whether Israel would today have a nuclear option." - Dr. Avner Cohen, internationally acclaimed expert on Israel's nuclear program and author of the book, "The Worst Kept Secret: Israel's Bargain with the Bomb".

Iran Nuclear Soap Opera Enters Its 20th Season
http://www.henrymakow.com/iran-nuclear-soap-opera.html

"We know the powers that are defying the people. Our Government is in the hands of pirates. All the power of politics, and of Congress, and of the administration is under the control of the moneyed interests. The adversary has the force of capital, thousands of millions of which are in his hand. He will grasp the knife of law, which he has so often wielded in his interest. He will lay hold of his forces in the legislature. He will make use of his forces in the press. Political rings are managed by skillful and unscrupulous political gamblers, who possess the 'machine' by which the populace are at once controlled and crushed." - John Swinton, Former Chief of The New York Times, "A Momentous Question: The Respective Attitudes of Labor and Capital"

"Though they control scores of industrial, commercial, mining and tourist corporations, not one bears the name Rothschild. Being private partnerships, the family houses never need to, and never do, publish a single public balance sheet, or any other report of their financial condition." - Frederic Morton, 1962, "The Rothschilds"

This attitude reveals the true aim of the Rothschilds, to eliminate all competition and create their own worldwide monopoly.

1963: On June 4th, JFK signs Executive Order 11110 which returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Rothchilds owned Federal Reserve.

Less than 6 months later on November 22nd , president Kennedy is assassinated by the Rothschilds for the same reason as they assassinated President Abraham Lincoln in 1865 -- he wanted to print American money for the American people, in opposition to the money grabbing, war mongering, foreign elite.

This Executive Order 11110, is rescinded by LBJ on Air Force One from Dallas to Washington, the same day as President Kennedy was assassinated.

The primary reason for Kennedy's assassination though is likely the fact that he made it explicitly clear to Israeli Prime Minister, David Ben-Gurion, that under no circumstances would he agree to Israel becoming a nuclear state.

“Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce…and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate.” - James A. Garfield, two weeks before he is assassinated (The 20th President of the U.S; who lasted only 100 Days)

$9,000,000,000,000 MISSING From The Federal Reserve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QK4bblyfsc

A 12 year familiar with secret societies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3c-aN6Y7OU

Calling on ALL humans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwK4gVjE728
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Mountaineer

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I do not like this sort of falsehood spread across the social media. It would appear that anyone can make something up, attribute it to a prominent figure and get away with libel.

From research I have carried out independent of this site, it would appear that this is yet another political hoax and JFK never said this or anything like it in any of his speeches.
 

dead_mariner

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Hang in there Mick. It looks like there are plenty of [people] who will believe anything they read on the internet. If JFK had said that, we'd have heard of it looooong before now.


 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdUsJHeVXiE Is this not JFK? It basically says the same thing as the quote too.
 
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I think Mick is the only sane one that's posted here.....
 

ThatGuy

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This thread is a window into a world even more frightening than the secret Rothschild-funded, CIA-run brainwashing prisons in the basement of the Federal Reserve. Mick, my man, how on earth do you survive in here?

What surprises me (probably not you) is that almost no one here has provided any content related to the original question of where this quote comes from. Instead, it seems like we're stuck in the epistemological Twilight Zone: What does it mean for something to be true? Does truth even matter?

Props to the [conspiracy] people, though. You guys write incredible stuff!
 
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