Jay Reynolds
Senior Member.
MS Cindy Pickoulas and MS Siobhan Ciresi are attempting to get a law passed by the Suffolk County, NY Legislature to ban geoenegineering overhead.
They operate under the name
Long Island Skywatch.
Here is Ciresi's website: "Operation Humanity Transcending"
Here is their promotional flyer.
Three days ago, I contacted Suffolk County Legislator Edward P. Romaine's office and spoke with Lisa Keys, his Legislative Aide, who told me that she had never heard anyone say that chemtrails was a hoax. She requested that I send her some information. This is the email I sent her:
Lisa Keys
Suffok County Legislative Aide to Mr. Edward P.Romaine
423 Griffing Avenue - Suite 2
Riverhead, NY 11901
Re: Information about the Chemtrails Hoax
Dear MS Keys,
Thank you for requesting information about the chemtrails hoax. Chemtrails are simply contrails, produced when water vapor from jet engines hits -40 degree air at high altitudes.
When these contrails form in dry air, they dissipate rapidly, when they form in air with high humidity, they will persist like other high altitude clouds, sometimes for days. Those who believe in "chemtrails"call these persistent contrails "chemtrails", falsely believing that they are composed not of water but are evidence of a global conspiracy for nefarious purposes.
This hoax began in 1997 to promote a book by Richard Finke and Larry Wayne Harris, who had previously pled guilty to obtaining Bubonic Plague bacteria through wire fraud, Harris later caused a panic in Las Vegas when he claimed to be in possession of anthrax. (Link)
Three years later, in 1999, I wrote the first of many articles on the hoax. (Link)
I also tracked the origins of the hoax as far back as I could. (Link)
Over the next ten years, the hoax became a conspiracy theory popularized on late night talk shows and on Internet message boards, and developed a following of core believers as well as a small cottage industry producing books and selling products to protect you from "chemtrails". There are several hundred websites about "chemtrails".
On the way, US Congressman Dennis Kucinich got taken in by some of the chemtrail believers who snuck the term into a bill outlawing space based weapons. Kucinich removed it from the bill after I asked his staff members about it. (Link)
The conspiracy theory later became linked with other conspiracy theories, especially the 9/11 "Truth" movement whose adherents believe that the US Government was complicit in the 9/11 attacks, that President Bush orchestrated it and that bombs, not planes, brought down the towers.
Cindy Pikoulas' website "Long Island Skywatch" explains 9/11 "Truth": (Link)
In 2010, 9/11 "Truther", Michael J. Murphy produced a movie called "What In The World Are They Spraying?" which was widely promoted using social media and through the 9/11 "Truth" networks. Most likely, Cindy Pikoulas' belief stems from viewing that movie as she dates her first belief to early in 2011. (Link)
The movie says that rainwater samples which have been analyzed in a laboratory contain abnormal amounts of aluminum, barium, and strontium. The movie does not, however, explain that these elements are found in ordinary soils and that the same amounts of the elements shown in the movie were also being found in rainwater 40 years ago. (Link)
The movie comes to the conclusion that the rain water samples prove that these elements are being sprayed to accomplish geoengineering, which has been proposed by some real scientists as a possible means to combat global warming. All of these scientists deny that any such project is underway. The movie claims that "chemtrails" are a "Crime Against Humanity" and are already responsible for illness, disease, death and environmental destruction. (Link)
It appears that Cindy Pikoulas is emulating the movie as she and others in your area have taken rain and pond water samples, all of which show ordinary levels of elements. (Link)
As a result of the movie, some have become radicalized, have made threats against aircraft, and in a recent poll 95% of believers voted that anyone involved be hanged or spend life in prison without parole. (Link)
The situation you find yourself in seems to be rather difficult, because Mr. Romaine has given a certain amount of credence to the hoax by already agreeing to sponsor some ordinance against geoengineering. This has been widely disseminated through the "chemtrail" believer networks. Just google Edward P. Romaine and chemtrails to see. I don't know how they were able to convince you that they had a legitimate concern, but it appears to me that Mr. Romaine was simply being responsive to his constituents, even if they were misguided. There could have been some subterfuge, and they may have hidden some of their motives. I'll let you be the judge of that.
Their real intent, though, is to induce you cooperate by giving the hoax legitimacy, and later they will demand that you enforce the law and stop all persistent contrails. To satisfy that demand, you will have to prove to them that when they see a persistent contrail it is just an ordinary jet contrail, and not geoengineering. Failing that, they will increase their demands and threaten to sue the County for failure to enforce the law. They have already done this in Mohave County, Arizona, as this irate man, Albert Dicicco does in this video. (Link)
It looks like maybe a no-win situation for you at this point. You can go ahead with the ordinance, in which case the believers will hold your feet to the fire and non-believers will point at you otherwise as well, or you can simply refuse any more to do with it. You could also put the onus on the believers to show some proof which can be easily debunked if you can get someone with the expertise to do so. In Alachua County, Florida, that was the way that the County handled Harold Saive, a perennial feature at County General Meetings. (Link)
The difference, however, is that Saive is rather isolated and doesn't seem to have a group to support him. The New york chemtrail believers have actually co-opted the Occupy Wall Street protests in Rockland, and might end up "Occupying" your office some day. (Link)
If you go that route, I'd suggest you get some expertise from a currently flying commercial jet pilot to explain aviation, an environmental scientist who can explain why dust is in the air and rain water, and maybe a psychologist who deals with abnormal phobias. Maybe two psychologists.
As if I haven't given you enough information, here is the best one-stop website explaining what is wrong with the chemtrails hoax claims, and why they are just contrails: Contrailscience.com
There is a community of folks debunking "chemtrails", including myself, some pilots, meteorologists, scientists, and others from around the world. We'd be happy to answer any specific questions, if the answers are not already found in past discussions here: Metabunk.org
I wish you the best of luck.
Jay Reynolds
They operate under the name
Long Island Skywatch.
Here is Ciresi's website: "Operation Humanity Transcending"
Here is their promotional flyer.
Long Island Skywatch said:CALLING ALL ACTIVISTS ON LONG ISLAND
"We are looking for people to contact their local representatives in Nassau & Suffolk Counties of LongIsland. As most of you are aware, it is very difficult to get our public servants to take the geoengineering issue seriously. That is why LongIslandskywatch has decided to bring this matter to our local legislatures. We have met with Councilman Dan Panico and Legislator Ed Romaine. They have both been very receptive to the "possibility" of Geoengineering. We do not use the word "receptive" lightly. It is the first positive movement we have received from anyone in a government position. Both of these gentlemen guided us on the steps needed to get a resolution on the table to ban geoengineering in Suffolk County. We are in the process of contacting other organizations to get them interested and involved in the hopes of having a substantial number of people requesting a ban. In order to make this happen, we need people to get involved. We are also requesting that individuals attend upcoming meetings where a resolution will be put before the county. We will post these dates so that we can fill the room with concerned citizens. You do not have to live in Suffolk County to attend meetings or contact people. Ed Romaine is in the process of writing a resolution for Suffolk County. We are aware that this will not stop the chemtrails. Our goal is to make the public aware of what is happening in the skies above. We have created a packet that we use when meeting with public officials. I will send a copy to anyone who requires documentation prior to meeting with local officials. The more counties that bring "geoengineering" into the public domain, the more chance we have of informing people who are unaware of this issue. We have numerous samples of surface water throughout Suffolk County. Our latest samples were 8900 ppb. Toxicity is 750 ppb. We can send you copies of these samples to get you started. We advise everyone to take samples of their own. Mr. Romaine is bringing these reports to the Health Department. Please contact us at longislandskywatch@yahoo.com This e-mail address is being protected from spambots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it to become part of our team. We need people to help us. It is in numbers that we will be taken seriously. I have a list of organizations that need to be made aware of geoengineering. Please email us. WE NEED YOUR HELP!!!!"
Three days ago, I contacted Suffolk County Legislator Edward P. Romaine's office and spoke with Lisa Keys, his Legislative Aide, who told me that she had never heard anyone say that chemtrails was a hoax. She requested that I send her some information. This is the email I sent her:
Lisa Keys
Suffok County Legislative Aide to Mr. Edward P.Romaine
423 Griffing Avenue - Suite 2
Riverhead, NY 11901
Re: Information about the Chemtrails Hoax
Dear MS Keys,
Thank you for requesting information about the chemtrails hoax. Chemtrails are simply contrails, produced when water vapor from jet engines hits -40 degree air at high altitudes.
When these contrails form in dry air, they dissipate rapidly, when they form in air with high humidity, they will persist like other high altitude clouds, sometimes for days. Those who believe in "chemtrails"call these persistent contrails "chemtrails", falsely believing that they are composed not of water but are evidence of a global conspiracy for nefarious purposes.
This hoax began in 1997 to promote a book by Richard Finke and Larry Wayne Harris, who had previously pled guilty to obtaining Bubonic Plague bacteria through wire fraud, Harris later caused a panic in Las Vegas when he claimed to be in possession of anthrax. (Link)
Three years later, in 1999, I wrote the first of many articles on the hoax. (Link)
I also tracked the origins of the hoax as far back as I could. (Link)
Over the next ten years, the hoax became a conspiracy theory popularized on late night talk shows and on Internet message boards, and developed a following of core believers as well as a small cottage industry producing books and selling products to protect you from "chemtrails". There are several hundred websites about "chemtrails".
On the way, US Congressman Dennis Kucinich got taken in by some of the chemtrail believers who snuck the term into a bill outlawing space based weapons. Kucinich removed it from the bill after I asked his staff members about it. (Link)
The conspiracy theory later became linked with other conspiracy theories, especially the 9/11 "Truth" movement whose adherents believe that the US Government was complicit in the 9/11 attacks, that President Bush orchestrated it and that bombs, not planes, brought down the towers.
Cindy Pikoulas' website "Long Island Skywatch" explains 9/11 "Truth": (Link)
In 2010, 9/11 "Truther", Michael J. Murphy produced a movie called "What In The World Are They Spraying?" which was widely promoted using social media and through the 9/11 "Truth" networks. Most likely, Cindy Pikoulas' belief stems from viewing that movie as she dates her first belief to early in 2011. (Link)
The movie says that rainwater samples which have been analyzed in a laboratory contain abnormal amounts of aluminum, barium, and strontium. The movie does not, however, explain that these elements are found in ordinary soils and that the same amounts of the elements shown in the movie were also being found in rainwater 40 years ago. (Link)
The movie comes to the conclusion that the rain water samples prove that these elements are being sprayed to accomplish geoengineering, which has been proposed by some real scientists as a possible means to combat global warming. All of these scientists deny that any such project is underway. The movie claims that "chemtrails" are a "Crime Against Humanity" and are already responsible for illness, disease, death and environmental destruction. (Link)
It appears that Cindy Pikoulas is emulating the movie as she and others in your area have taken rain and pond water samples, all of which show ordinary levels of elements. (Link)
As a result of the movie, some have become radicalized, have made threats against aircraft, and in a recent poll 95% of believers voted that anyone involved be hanged or spend life in prison without parole. (Link)
The situation you find yourself in seems to be rather difficult, because Mr. Romaine has given a certain amount of credence to the hoax by already agreeing to sponsor some ordinance against geoengineering. This has been widely disseminated through the "chemtrail" believer networks. Just google Edward P. Romaine and chemtrails to see. I don't know how they were able to convince you that they had a legitimate concern, but it appears to me that Mr. Romaine was simply being responsive to his constituents, even if they were misguided. There could have been some subterfuge, and they may have hidden some of their motives. I'll let you be the judge of that.
Their real intent, though, is to induce you cooperate by giving the hoax legitimacy, and later they will demand that you enforce the law and stop all persistent contrails. To satisfy that demand, you will have to prove to them that when they see a persistent contrail it is just an ordinary jet contrail, and not geoengineering. Failing that, they will increase their demands and threaten to sue the County for failure to enforce the law. They have already done this in Mohave County, Arizona, as this irate man, Albert Dicicco does in this video. (Link)
It looks like maybe a no-win situation for you at this point. You can go ahead with the ordinance, in which case the believers will hold your feet to the fire and non-believers will point at you otherwise as well, or you can simply refuse any more to do with it. You could also put the onus on the believers to show some proof which can be easily debunked if you can get someone with the expertise to do so. In Alachua County, Florida, that was the way that the County handled Harold Saive, a perennial feature at County General Meetings. (Link)
The difference, however, is that Saive is rather isolated and doesn't seem to have a group to support him. The New york chemtrail believers have actually co-opted the Occupy Wall Street protests in Rockland, and might end up "Occupying" your office some day. (Link)
If you go that route, I'd suggest you get some expertise from a currently flying commercial jet pilot to explain aviation, an environmental scientist who can explain why dust is in the air and rain water, and maybe a psychologist who deals with abnormal phobias. Maybe two psychologists.
As if I haven't given you enough information, here is the best one-stop website explaining what is wrong with the chemtrails hoax claims, and why they are just contrails: Contrailscience.com
There is a community of folks debunking "chemtrails", including myself, some pilots, meteorologists, scientists, and others from around the world. We'd be happy to answer any specific questions, if the answers are not already found in past discussions here: Metabunk.org
I wish you the best of luck.
Jay Reynolds
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