It would be interesting to know what "issues" Ian Simpson had with the paper
I was the person who sent Herndon and Editor Dr. Tchounwou the attachments Herndon is referring to. Here is a copy of the email they received,which I advised them to share with Dane Wigington:Wow.
For the benefit of any lurkers (including possibly Dr. Herndon), here is a thread where we collected a bunch of references showing aluminum content in precipitation, ranging from the 1960s to the modern day: https://www.metabunk.org/chemical-composition-of-rain-and-snow-aluminum-barium-etc.t135/
I doubt that Mick had any personal contact with the Editor, but I paid a five minute visit to him at his office and handed him some handwritten criticisms written into the margins on a copy of the Herndon paper. I asked him to look into it, but didn't insist on a retraction. Dr. Tchounwou told me that he was already aware of the controversy before I visited him, but a face-to-face likely showed him that there were probably serious problems in the paper and people were interested.Ian Simpson seems to be pushing the idea that it was retracted due to a request by Mick/Metabunk.
Exactly! I edited myself that sentence with reference ;-) Italians are heavily involved in neutrino detection experimentsIt seems that Herndon's other claim to fame, of a "georeactor" hypothesis has also been dis-proven as well. I guess all he has left is the adoration and attention from the Chemtrail Conspiracy promoters who seek anything that superficially seems credible to post to their websites.
Probably both. It's sad that people are so deep into the belief. But also the more ridiculous they make things, the more it has the potential to prompt people to ask if the theory actually holds up to serious examination.I'm at a loss for words after watching this... I don't even know what this is. Should I cry or should I laugh?
That URL is a troubling trend. The Finance pages of Yahoo will be seen (rightly or wrongly) as a "reputable source". But in fact this is just a paid press release put out by PR Newswire and reposted by Yahoo.The next Herndon paper is in the making:
The next Herndon paper is in the making:
Seems two pilots (two paragliders!) will collect air samples at high altitude. Herndon will monitor the sampling and plans to publish a peer reviewed article about it
According to a reply under Herndon's FB post, this is where the "sticky goo" sample was taken. It appears to be the last pile of snow melting in the shadows.Did he do it again? Did he again use 7% aluminum again instead of 14% for coal fly ash? The trace element of barium was 1380 mg/kg. So the ratio of aluminum to barium should be 101, instead of 50 as seen in his graph.
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so his "debunk" is that snow mold isnt sticky? add: here he shows several years of his snow mold, looks like snow mold. wonder what the composition of snow mold is.
I don't think so. It looks EXACTLY like snow mold.Is it spider webs?
Photo's of how the samples were prepared.
Loads of dirt and other organic matter in there.Photo's of how the samples were prepared.
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I tried to explain the dirt in the sample, but then nano, Robert thinks I need to do more research to understand.Loads of dirt and other organic matter in there.
Trying very hard to not laugh hysterically. The more they advertise this, the bigger deal it becomes IMHO. So according to this site, ANDAnother spin on the paraglider project advocated by Marvin Herndon:
I've added this to the OP, together with shorter quotes from the two papers above.And of course, he's still ignoring one of the main problems with his whole premise: that you get a very similar degree of "match" if you compare the results to the average prevalence of those elements in the crust of the Earth, meaning that he could easily be detecting simple dirt and dust:
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The first comment has been made on the Frontiers in Public Health site. http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fpubh.2016.00139/full
There might be a mistake or two, but this is what I saw:so my question for those who dont have to look up each element for their letters (ie Be, Ca etc) how many of the elements Robert West tested are also in Coal fly ash? or in other words.. how many elements in Roberts sample don't match the signature of coal fly ash?
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I'd like to know what Nobel Prize-winning chemist Harold C. Urey and Hans E. Suess would think about Herndon's work in general?
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