# Debunked: Exploration company "Georesonance" believes it may have found MH370

It doesn't bug me at all. They are not going to provide any details. I suppose that I could contact them pretending to be someone interested in their technique, but that is a total waste of my time.

The answers for the GR use of multispectral imagery to see through any material are provided by the equation: d(λ, χ) = λ/4πχ. All you need to do is look for tables of the complex index of refraction for various materials, the equation will provide the depth of penetration as a function of wavelength. I have provided an example for water for people to play with (easily done in Excel).

Here is a link with a number of materials (some are Fortran subroutines, make me feel nostalgic!):
http://reflib.wikispaces.com/

This is the underlying equation of EM wave propogation:

Wave Equation with Dispersion:

E = E0 exp(i(kz – ωt)) exp(-ωχz/c) (Martin, 2004)

E Electric field in a lossy medium (V/m)
E0 Reference field (V/m)
z Distance (m)
t Time (s)
ω Frequency (Hz)
c Speed of light (m/s)
χ imaginary part of index of refraction
k vector wavenumber (1/m) (note: k = ωn/c)
Complex Index of Refraction:
η = n + iχ

exp(i(zωn/c – ωt)) is the wave propagation (e raised to an imaginary number produces a "sine" wave)
exp(-ωχz/c) is an exponential decay (e raised to a negative number produces an exponential decay)

It doesn't bug me at all. They are not going to provide any details. I suppose that I could contact them pretending to be someone interested in their technique, but that is a total waste of my time.

Exactly. It bugs me more that people are wasting time talking about them. It looks like a scam, there's no evidence that it is not a scam, the evidence would be easy to produce, but they have not. So any speculating about the nature of their technology is only helping their scam.

Exactly. It bugs me more that people are wasting time talking about them. It looks like a scam, there's no evidence that it is not a scam, the evidence would be easy to produce, but they have not. So any speculating about the nature of their technology is only helping their scam.

Yet you have an entire website for discussing such matters...

Yet you have an entire website for discussing such matters...

No. The website is for debunking claims of evidence. Not endlessly speculating. It's for pointing out things (claims of evidence) that are wrong. Not inventing imaginary ways to excuse those errors.

No. The website is for debunking claims of evidence. Not endlessly speculating. It's for pointing out things (claims of evidence) that are wrong. Not inventing imaginary ways to excuse those errors.

The GR types annoy me (a lot of them exist in the exploration industries), so I keep posting evidence to prove they can not do what they claim. There is no way to prove they are charlatans without a lot of physics, so I will post physics - also gives members with an interest some real data to play with. It is a good thing that whenever someone googles "georesonance" the second entry is "debunked" by metabunk.org.

No. The website is for debunking claims of evidence. Not endlessly speculating. It's for pointing out things (claims of evidence) that are wrong. Not inventing imaginary ways to excuse those errors.

The thing is, with so many fundamental questions open, in many cases the current debunking is based on assumptions rather than known facts. And many of those assumptions seem to be based on the idea that the GR people are not just scammers but idiots as well. It might be an easy explanation, and a popular one, but a bit too simplistic in my opinion. For example, these are some of the popular points for debunking them:

- They claimed to have located the Armenia ship, which is not true. If they lied on purpose as the assumption goes, could they really be so incredibly stupid as to name a well known shipwreck that anyone could check from Wikipedia to see that's untrue? (It's probably endless speculation there's indication in that Sevastopol document that it's a translation error.)

- They are using easily available digital sat photos which they convert to analog for getting some hidden data with their magic Kirlian tech. It doesn't take a genius to understand that the conversion can't possibly generate any additional data that is not present in the digital form. And yet so many seem to assume that the GR people, and a whole bunch of people at Sevastopol, no matter how misguided or dishonest they are, but still with some scientific background, are just so stupid. (Again, it's probably endless speculation there's plenty of places stating explicitly that only analog pictures are used for such tech.)

- The whole locating a plane claim is a pr stunt and they know there's nothing in there. Why on earth would they give an exact location then that's relatively easy to check, and would prove they were completely wrong and all their claims about the accuracy of their technology are false?

This whole thing was pretty quickly deemed debunked based on such arguments as well as some misrepresentations of what NASA experts have said, incorrect depth of that assumed location (although less than what GR have stated), assumptions on their fancy Kirlian pics being just photoshops due to perfect south-north alignment (which seem to have been done for illustrative purposes, as there's a screenshot of the presentation showing no such alignment, or plane outline) etc. Yes, the conclusion itself is quite certainly correct and their tech is bunk, but it doesn't make questionable premises right.

Such issues might also bite back, as when noticed, they not just decrease the credibility of the conclusions that are based on them, but can even cause legal issues as was discussed earlier when GR threatened to sue some parties, in which case it's not the best of situations to claim they are scamming or lying without having the actual evidence to back that up. Also if someone actually goes to that location at some point and finds something (else than MH370), it would be a huge pr victory for them and something else for this site. I myself wouldn't be too surprised if they weren't complete idiots but just knew there's something in there with the help of something else than magic. The idiot principle just doesn't sound believable enough for me.

The reason people keep talking about them is that they haven't actually been proven wrong with arguments that would hold the scrutiny. Some things yes, and David for example has meticulously argued the impossibility of using multispectral imaging to what they claim to have done, but that still misses the confirmation they are basing their magic tech on that in a way that would validate the assumptions.

I was curious what happened to GeoResonance since last year, so have checked their website today, and it appears they did not drop the ball yet. They just published a new press release a short time ago (on 7th March 2015). They still go on with their hoax. I guess the publicity provided to them by the media served them well, so they try to push a bit more again.

Funny that the refer to a team of "European scientists" when it is well known that the technology is out of Sevastopol. I think that is part of Russia now. PR's still are more rant than information......

Well, Russia is geographically in Europe (at least its western part), and Crimea certainly is in Europe, so I would not dispute that claim.

And push it some more they will... To the tune of £1.3 million for the search in the Bay of Bengal. Andre Milne "aviation technology expert" needs this money to search for the plane. If you watch the video he refers to a mysterious wreckage in the bay then slides of the infamous Geo Resonance images are splashed on the screen. He hopes to scam sorry I mean crowd source the funds because it touches him.

Whether or not he is affiliated with Geo Resonance I don't know but he is having a good shot at keeping the dream alive!

https://web.archive.org/web/2015042...d-could-be-mh370/story-fnizu68q-1227318736789

It looks like the MH370 hoax of GeoResonance was so profitable for them, that they pull it out again and again. Now they have a totally revamped website, and published a new Press Release a month ago:

http://www.georesonance.com/20160306_Press_Release.pdf
The 8th of March 2016 is the second anniversary of the disappearance of Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 and resulting loss of the 239 people on board.

The GeoResonance team feels aggrieved that two years of search efforts have not delivered any results and have not brought closure to all relatives and friends of those lost. At present, the Australian Transport and Safety Bureau (ATSB) still control the \$150 million search, focusing on the 85,000 square kilometre area in the Southern Indian Ocean. Many aviation experts around the world continue to cast doubt on the Southern flight path theory. The theory is not based on radar recordings or a sighting, it is fully based on incomplete Inmarsat data. The last time the aircraft was seen on the military radar it was heading North/West from Penang, not South.

Plane debris discovered on the coasts of Reunion Island and Mozambique have not as yet been 100% confirmed from the missing MH370. Even if the debris does belong to MH370, they cannot be used as concrete proof of the current ATSB search zone – the debris could have drifted from the North, South or East.

The directors and staff of GeoResonance maintain their rage at the Malaysian and Australian authorities for not checking the exact coordinates in the Bay of Bengal. The black box battery was still working weeks after GeoResonance notified the authorities. It would have been an inexpensive exercise to rule out the location. ATSB officials would not speak with or have a technical presentation by the GeoResonance directors and physicists.

If and when the ATSB end the current \$150 million search without any success, they should be held to account by the world’s media and Australian taxpayers for their single theory search strategy.

The GeoResonance team would like to wish those affected by this tragedy all the very best and closure as soon as possible.

GeoResonance
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It looks like the MH370 hoax of GeoResonance was so profitable for them, that they pull it out again and again. Now they have a totally revamped website, and published a new Press Release a month ago:

Given the price of metals and petroleum I doubt their business is booming. New press release has the similar ranting tone to the last few.

Some time had passed now, since the last reply on this post. The web site of Georesonance.com is still live. But the only update I can find is a yearly update on the search for MH370. This 'company' apparently has no other use or projects going on worth telling about.

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