Debunked: Demolition “squib” is visible at top of WTC North Tower before Flight 11 crash

Marc Powell

Member
It is claimed by conspiracy theorists that mistimed demolition explosions, that they refer to as “squibs,” can be seen at various times and at various places before the collapse of the WTC twin towers. At the 51:50 mark in the 2014 David Hooper film, The Anatomy of a Great Deception (viewable in its entirety at youtube.com/watch?v=l0Q5eZhCPuc ), Hooper makes reference to one particular squib that he claims was detonated shortly before the AA Flight 11 impact. He tells the audience the following:

Not all squibs, however, were easy to spot. Remember how we discussed explosions that were timed to go off with the plane impacts? Well, this is the first plane impact. Notice the dark brown smoke coming out of the top floor of the tower. This smoke is already dissipating before the plane strikes the building.

Below is the accompanying clip from Hooper’s film:



In the video clip, taken from the Naudet Brothers video, there definitely is a mysterious dark brown cloud visible near the top of the tower that appears to be present even before the fireball from the plane crash ascends to that level. However, it was not present before the plane impact, is not the result of a demolition charge explosion and is not even smoke, for that matter. Hooper’s video clip starts after the plane impact which conceals the fact that there actually was no smoke visible beforehand. And the clip is freeze framed right after the mysterious cloud has been zoomed into view which conceals the fact that the smoke just hangs in the air and does not move upward as hot smoke from an explosion would be expected to do. This is more clearly visible in the unedited version of the video viewable at youtube.com/watch?v=7g6V8KZE3GA . Here is a clip from it:



The mystery of the brown cloud is solved in Chapter 6 of the NIST report NCSTAR 1-5A, which contains a detailed analysis of the Naudet Brothers video of the Flight 11 impact. On page 56, it says the following:

3 NIST Description of Vents and Louvers.jpg

Here are the diagrams of the ventilation louvers referred to in the NIST report:
4 North Face.jpg
5 East Face.jpg
So then, the brown cloud at the top of the North Tower was merely dust that had accumulated in ventilation louvers on the 108th and 109th floors that supplied fresh air to the floors where the aircraft impacted. The pressure wave from the crash forced the dust in the louvers to be violently expelled resulting in visible dust clouds on the north and east sides of the building. One has to wonder why David Hooper and his team of diligent researchers, including Technical Director, Richard Gage, could not have read the report they so vehemently criticize and figured this one out on their own.
 
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Nada Truther

Active Member
It is claimed by conspiracy theorists that mistimed demolition explosions,
I know that what you said is not a direct quote, but your opinion or paraphrasing many of the statements that the truther community has uttered over the years; but, It always amazes me that truthers can talk about the unbelievable amount of precision timing that it would take to pull this whole "job" off and how so many things are conveniently "mis-timed", to suit their narrative. You would think that this sort of thing would have been the easiest thing to time.... remotely detonate along with the first impact would be the only thing that you probably could get exactly timed right; but they missed on this one?
 

Marc Powell

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I know that what you said is not a direct quote, but your opinion or paraphrasing many of the statements that the truther community has uttered over the years; but, It always amazes me that truthers can talk about the unbelievable amount of precision timing that it would take to pull this whole "job" off and how so many things are conveniently "mis-timed", to suit their narrative. You would think that this sort of thing would have been the easiest thing to time.... remotely detonate along with the first impact would be the only thing that you probably could get exactly timed right; but they missed on this one?
The "precision timing" that seems the most improbable to me is the sequential timing of the demolition blasts that would have been required on each floor in order for the top-down demo job to look like it was driven by gravity (at approximately 2/3 G). Even truther physics teacher, David Chandler, who touts the theory that material was sequentially removed forming a hole ahead of the descending "demolition wave," glosses over the impossibility of such spectacularly precise explosion timing.
 

Amber Robot

Active Member
The "precision timing" that seems the most improbable to me is the sequential timing of the demolition blasts that would have been required on each floor in order for the top-down demo job to look like it was driven by gravity (at approximately 2/3 G). Even truther physics teacher, David Chandler, who touts the theory that material was sequentially removed forming a hole ahead of the descending "demolition wave," glosses over the impossibility of such spectacularly precise explosion timing.
If the explosives were there to make it look like a gravity-driven collapse, why do the truthers claim that it is *obviously* a demolition?
 

Marc Powell

Member
If the explosives were there to make it look like a gravity-driven collapse, why do the truthers claim that it is *obviously* a demolition?
They don't understand the simple physics behind the pancake collapse of floors in the open office spaces. And the statements of pseudo-experts like David Chandler leave them no option but to assume it was "obviously a demolition."
 

Amber Robot

Active Member
They don't understand the simple physics behind the pancake collapse of floors in the open office spaces. And the statements of pseudo-experts like David Chandler leave them no option but to assume it was "obviously a demolition."
But the claim was that the explosives were there to make it *look like* a gravity collapse. So if it *obviously* looks like a demolition then the demolitionists did a terrible job, right?
 

Marc Powell

Member
But the claim was that the explosives were there to make it *look like* a gravity collapse. So if it *obviously* looks like a demolition then the demolitionists did a terrible job, right?
I am not sure I understand your syntax. The "demolitionists" don't claim the explosives were there to make the collapse look like it was gravity-driven (it was). They claim that the explosives were timed to make the demolition resemble a gravity-driven collapse so as to hide its true nature.
 

Amber Robot

Active Member
I am not sure I understand your syntax. The "demolitionists" don't claim the explosives were there to make the collapse look like it was gravity-driven (it was). They claim that the explosives were timed to make the demolition resemble a gravity-driven collapse so as to hide its true nature.
And my point is that despite all their effort the truthers claim it is *obvious* that it was a demolition, so the effort to make it look like it wasn’t failed completely. Maybe we just aren’t understanding each other. I’ll quit while I’m behind…
 

Marc Powell

Member
And my point is that despite all their effort the truthers claim it is *obvious* that it was a demolition, so the effort to make it look like it wasn’t failed completely. Maybe we just aren’t understanding each other. I’ll quit while I’m behind…
Okay, I think I now understand what you are getting at. What the truthers are claiming is that the buildings could not have collapsed in the manner they did without precisely-timed (and apparently silent, flashless and blastless) explosives. So, regardless of how successfully the demolitionists may have gotten the silent, flashless and blastless explosives to simulated a gravity driven collapse, it wasn't physically possible and so, CD is obvious.
 

Amber Robot

Active Member
Okay, I think I now understand what you are getting at. What the truthers are claiming is that the buildings could not have collapsed in the manner they did without precisely-timed (and apparently silent, flashless and blastless) explosives. So, regardless of how successfully the demolitionists may have gotten the silent, flashless and blastless explosives to simulated a gravity driven collapse, it wasn't physically possible and so, CD is obvious.
Yes. And if it was so obvious to truthers why did the demolitionists go through such an elaborate plan to to try to make it look like a gravity collapse? Wouldn’t it have been obvious to them as well?
 

Jeffrey Orling

Senior Member
Gravity is what makes things fall... The issue re the buildings is what caused the structures to loos capacity locally and ultimately globally to resist gravity? RESISTING gravity is what structure does. There was no evidence of explosive or other CD at the WTC. The was evidence of unfought fires and mechanical damage both which destroyed the integrity and capacity of the structural members to perform per their design criteria.
 

Mendel

Senior Member.
Logic has no place in the truther psyche.
I wouldn't say that. Much of what they do and think involves logical patterns.

The crux is that belief makes logical contradictions seem meaningless, along the lines of "I'm probably simply missing something here", "someone is going to figure this out eventually", or "we're being lied to, and misled".
 
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