I think it's ok to do something like that. they didn't say "this is Belleview Hospital" or anything.
Do you know if they are in use elsewhere? The University of Chicago did a small study of them 4 years ago, and they're apparently clearly superior to face masks.I did previously see the 'bubbles-over-their-heads' when they ran out of ventilators with Italian footage
Who caused the crisis in the US?"this is the future of NY because Orange Man bad"
I think you've only got to look at the range of responses from the state governors, or even mayor and councils, to see that different people handle it differently. Mike DeWine (R-OH) was reportedly very proactive, as was Gavin Newsom (D-CA). Greg Abbot (R-TX) maybe less so. State responses have varied quite a bit, but only time will tell what the ultimate effect of their actions will be. This site ranks states by the aggressiveness of their response. There's a variety right now, and it's changed over time.The question is, would a different president have handled this differently, and would that have made a difference?
what does that have to do with Cuomo blaming Trump because Cuomo didn't lock down his city/state/subways soon enough and now he's angry that NY isn't being sent all the federal supplies when other states might need some too? yesterday or the day before Cuomo even said he thinks other NY hospitals are hoarding ventilators and not sending them to the city.Who caused the crisis in the US?
This would be easier to heed if Trump didn't point the finger elsewhere at every opportunity. The finger-pointing at him seems to have gotten him to invoke the defense production act, so it does serve some purpose.I'm not sure there's much to gain from finger-pointing, especially at Trump.
I just quoted you the facts why that is not true.everyone is to blame.
The DOD uses the DPA 300K times a year.This would be easier to heed if Trump didn't point the finger elsewhere at every opportunity. The finger-pointing at him seems to have gotten him to invoke the defense production act, so it does serve some purpose.
This is the said report:but the report linked in your quote says
I already read 2.1. I think 'under contract' means companies they already have contracts with.Your quote says that number 2) has not been invoked. But to get a company to accept and fulfil (perform) a government contract, they use number 1). See section 2.1 in that report.
You are wrong, just check the facts.I already read 2.1. I think 'under contract' means companies they already have contracts with.
and the 'services and facilities' in 2.2 would mean forcing GM (a car company) to make ventilators.
I could be wrong of course, but that is how i'm reading it. and it makes sense because i don't recall in my lifetime the government forcing a company to do anything contrary to what their company was set up to do. (ie making new product).
But GM had already agreed to make ventilators. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...orce-gm-make-ventilators-coronavirus-n1170746You are wrong, just check the facts.
Note the use of the "accept, perform and prioritize" language, which is the same language as used in part 1) of my quote. The memorandum does not use the word "allocate".
This is from paragraph 4511 of the law:so I still think making a company produce something they wouldn't normally produce, would be section 2.2.
no I didn't. I waqs responding to Agent K, not to you. I was pointing out to Agent K that even though the government often uses parts of DPA that (selling to our government before other countries etc) that we have never forced a company to make product or provide a service outside of it's original company statement.) you claim that your comment was not actually meant to address Trump's use of the DPA
The main point of using rated orders isn't to compel companies to help. From what I remember of Gov. Cuomo's press conference in Javits Center, the point is that the government can loan companies money for this (e.g. GM has to change their factory to make the new product, this costs money, and they can do it more easily if the government provides it) and that companies are protected against some liabilities (they might have delivery dates with penalties for other customers, and if these get delayed, it could become expensive; but if the delay was caused by working on rated orders, the penalty doesn't apply). It effectively helps companies to do this work if FEMA or the HHS use these rated orders ( DPA contracts).we have never forced a company to make product or provide a service outside of it's original company statement.
Yes, but both the time and the NBC article state the facts: that GM's commitment to the ventilator production has "never wavered", and that Trump's intent is to "ensure the quick production of ventilators that will save American lives." The aim is to make it happen faster, not to force it to happen at all.it is literally the headline of every article about the issue. (including the articles I linked). You are obviously experiencing different media then we are here in America.
and cheaper apparently. the aim is to force them to make them faster. "require acceptance" "require performance".The aim is to make it happen faster,
I know. that's what I said.not to force it to happen at all.
I used to work in broadcast news and it is extremely common to reuse b-roll like that. It's a mistake but not a malicious one. Editors, production assistants, or interns download footage from satellite feeds, syndication wire, or photographer, label it, and then it exists on the server forever (some more descriptive than others.) So an editor putting together a package searches for terms like "coronavirus hospital ventilators", finds a 5 second clip, and pulls it into their story to illustrate ventilators in hospitals. Happens all the time, especially with followup stories or long-term "developing" stories like this.
i think it can. I was reading about the car industry and WW11, but its a bit tricky to iron out even what "nationalizing" is.e DPA helped with the funding,
it might have been diBlasio.? he is the mayor of NYCity. here is an opinion piece he wrote March 18I thought he also mentioned
Good of him to apologize. I was wondering if he would. He says he had a lot of different numbers in his head and that he shouldn't have been comparing this outbreak to the flu, but the problem was that he got the numbers wrong. As I pointed out at the time, rather than underestimating the infection fatality rate (IFR) of COVID-19, he overestimated the IFR of seasonal flu to be 0.7%, which is inflated by a factor of seven. He also didn't account for differences in the attack rate.Dr. Drew Pinsky has publicly apologized. He now admits he was wrong about minimizing the seriousness of Covid-19, and wrong about comparing it to the Flu.
the United States is 4 times bigger than Germany. It doesn't matter how much money the Fed has, if there are no ventilators to buy.As an outsider, I don't understand this at all (same source):
you'd have to research more, but my impression from fed, NY and Connecticut press conferences is that states aren't testing to track or isolate at this point. they are really only testing sick people now.I don't really understand how test coverage is an indicator of how severe the epidemic is. If do 20000 tests per day and have 6% positive and then double the capacity to 40000 tests and 4% of the tests come back positive, the situation hasn't become better, it has become worse, except in the sense that the health authorities are now better able to track and isolate high-risk contacts.
The EU is not a government, that is not a good analogy.the United States is 4 times bigger than Germany. It doesn't matter how much money the Fed has, if there are no ventilators to buy.
To me, the analogy would be more like if the EU was the shipping clerk and Germany etc expected the EU committee to ship them everything they asked for the minute they asked for it.
New York has 100000 active cases, Connecticut has 5000. Assuming that NY had 3x the numbers of ventilators to start with that Conecticut had, the shortfall is much greater. E.g. assume 1 ventilator per 10000 inhabitants, and 8% ICU rate, then Connecticut has 400 ICU cases and 360+50 ventilators, while New York State (20 million pop) has 8000 ICU cases and 2000+4000 ventilators. (I don't know the true percentages, this is just an example.)New York/Cuomo said he needed 30,000. The fed doesn't have 30,000.
New York(pop. 8.5 million) got 4000 ventilators already, Connecticut got 50. (pop 3.6 million)
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