Conspiracy Theories hamper fight against Ebola

Gundersen

Senior Member.
 

qed

Senior Member
I read the article earlier and did not post it here because I could find no actual conspiracy theory anywhere in the article (besides the title):oops:. "A resident".
 

SR1419

Senior Member.
I read the article earlier and did not post it here because I could find no actual conspiracy theory anywhere in the article (besides the title):oops:. "A resident".

How is this not an actual conspiracy theory?

 

qed

Senior Member
How is this not an actual conspiracy theory?

The bull#### statement "These beliefs are often based on conspiracy theories that the disease was invented by national governments in search of international aid or political power." does not follow from the alleged quote "“I’ve never seen anybody die of Ebola. I’ve only heard of it. So it’s a rumor." which is a TRUE STATEMENT.
 

SR1419

Senior Member.
The bull#### statement "These beliefs are often based on conspiracy theories that the disease was invented by national governments in search of international aid or political power." does not follow from the alleged quote "“I’ve never seen anybody die of Ebola. I’ve only heard of it. So it’s a rumor." which is a TRUE STATEMENT.
So, since you haven't seen anyone die of Ebola you think its just a rumour?

You stated you couldn't find any conspiracy theories in the article. One was mentioned. That you do not think it logically correlates to a random quote is a different topic.
 

qed

Senior Member
Let me get you right.
So, since you haven't seen anyone die of Ebola you think its just a rumour?
From the single un-contextualised statement "I've never seen anybody die of Ebola. I’ve only heard of it. So it’s a rumor." your feel that there is a conspiracy theory on the loose in Africa that is hampering the management of Ebola? You feel the evidence warrants the claim of the article?

Personally, when I read the article, I concluded that it was valueless, and hence did not bother posting it here.
 

Mick West

Administrator
Staff member
Let me get you right.


From the single un-contextualised statement "I've never seen anybody die of Ebola. I’ve only heard of it. So it’s a rumor." your feel that there is a conspiracy theory on the loose in Africa that is hampering the management of Ebola? You feel the evidence warrants the claim of the article?

Personally, when I read the article, I concluded that it was valueless, and hence did not bother posting it here.
The article is about the harm conspiracy theories are doing to people dealing with Ebola in Africa. It seems like a perfectly reasonable article. Your opposition to it makes it seem like you read a different article.
 

qed

Senior Member
I accept the harm conspiracy theories cause. But, from what I hear, there just is not this Ebola conspiracy theory running loose the way Chemtrails or 9-11 runs loose in your country. People know Ebola kills and are terrified.

It is
rather than a conspiracy theory as we are used to it on this forum. The communication networks are simple not established for a meme to spread that way. I feel the "journalist" has made a leap that is not warranted. I feel he does not have the evidence to really back up what he is saying, and I even question why he is saying it.
 

Pete Tar

Senior Member.
and I even question why he is saying it.
Because conspiracy theories that say something that is real is not, or that persuade people to not get treatment, are harmful; seems simple.
Are you suggesting conspiracy theories have no consequence in cases like these?
 

Mick West

Administrator
Staff member
But, from what I hear, there just is not this Ebola conspiracy theory running loose the way Chemtrails or 9-11 runs loose in your country. People know Ebola kills and are terrified.
All people? Have you been talking to all the people in West Point, Monrovia? Are you sure there's no conspiracy theories circulating there, creating problem?
 

Pete Tar

Senior Member.
Here's a slightly different example of irrational beliefs being a problem -
 

KAT

Active Member
Superstitions, especially in cultures where these are widespread, do not equal conspiracy theories.
Witchcraft is as good an explanation as any for something nasty of unknown cause, in places where witchcraft is believed to exist. Or evil spirits ditto.
Government nastiness is not a bad guess, either, in places where hospitals are run by the government and nearly everyone who goes to hospital ends up dead, even though it may be only because only the desperately ill go to hospital.
 

qed

Senior Member
Here is a real African Ebola conspiracy theorist where I would expect to find one (online "newspapers" and blogs). http://dailypost.ng/2014/08/24/femi-fani-kayode-ameyo-adadevoh-ebola-conspiracy/
 

JRBids

Senior Member.
You may expect to find conspiracy theories on the net, but before the net existed there were still conspiracy theories. Believing the disease is a hoax, or spread by the government, or that people are sent to isolation stations in order to die are conspiracy theories, whether or not they include an element of witchcraft or superstition. Urban Legends are conspiracy theories that went around by word of mouth pre internet.
 

Pete Tar

Senior Member.
False.

Not once is the word "conspiracy" mentioned in the Wikipedia article on urban legends.
The lack of mention doesn't really prove the assertion false.
I would say sometimes urban legends involve conspiracy theories, but not all UL's are CT's.
Are myths about the disease the same as a conspiracy theory?
Depends on the specifics. If it involves authoritarian malfeasance in some way, then yes.
 

qed

Senior Member
You are correct and I am wrong. There is evidence in the article that people latched onto conspiracy theories.

From the original sources.

the atlantic

wall street journal

AFP
 

qed

Senior Member
Yet again on Thursday.

Ebola outbreak reaches Senegal, riots break out in Guinea

There clearly is an "instinctual" psychology behind the immediate inventing of a conspiracy theory in the face of horror and powerlessness.
 

Bill

Senior Member.
Maybe not, but as an example I would use the urban legend about people who supposedly woke up with one kidney cause someone stole it cause "they" are stealing organs. That IMO is a conspiracy theory.
But where do you find the conspiracy in the the story of the lady with the spider eggs in her wig, the killer in the closet or car with the JATOs attached to the roof that drives into a cliff face? Urban Legends are much more encompassing than conspiracy theories. I think the headline of the original article is misleading and chose to use the term conspiracy theories because it is much more attention getting than just saying misinformation or myths. The first paragraph is a more honest approach the topic:
 

NoParty

Senior Member.
As much fun as the media's (esp. one or two cable channels...wink wink, nudge nudge) attempt to
scare the Hell out of Americans with the threat of Ebola running rampant across the country was...

I think the release of the last guy in America (Craig Spencer) who had Ebola is past it
(meaning 0 Americans dead) might be a good time to put to rest the mass "Ebola in U.S." scare.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/eb...ola-patient-cured-dr-craig-spencer-be-n245586
http://www.newser.com/story/198475/last-us-ebola-patient-free-of-the-disease.html
 

Joe

Senior Member
There are plenty of CT going around in Liberia and have only made things worse in Liebria @7:00 conspiracy theories in Liberia
 
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