Montauk
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Sorry if this has been posted about in the past and I just missed it but this might be an interesting thing to investigate.
Since it's the 25th anniversary of the attacks, I, like many of you I'm sure, have been recommended on social media/videos sites various documentaries and videos related to the attacks.
As I was watching one, I happened to click on the description to read more about it when I found this in the box:
It was when I began to read Mr. Nelson's epigraph that I realized my instincts were right on the money:
He then provides an disclaimer/acknowledgements section where we see his "credentials":
Now onto his introduction/thesis:
I stopped there, feeling my IQ dropping.
Has anyone else come across this book and video or heard of its claims? I'm sure, judging by the introduction, that it, despite his protestations, that it just rehashes long debunked claims and myths (which makes his nod to "skeptics who helped him" odd) but it's possible there are some unique ones that would be interesting to debunk.
Since it's the 25th anniversary of the attacks, I, like many of you I'm sure, have been recommended on social media/videos sites various documentaries and videos related to the attacks.
As I was watching one, I happened to click on the description to read more about it when I found this in the box:
Now from the funky formatting/buzzwords and archive.org link, my brain immediately went "conspiracy trash…best leave it be" but I thought maybe I could give it the benefit of the doubt and that maybe it was just doing an earnest investigation.Artifacts (and the lack thereof) from the WTC collapse debris field..from the NIST FOIA, 911datasets.org release 27, 42A0149 - G26D6. For full investigation see my free PDF e-book "9/11 Debris" here--https://www.archive.org/download/91...vestigation_of_Ground_Zero_by_Matt_Nelson.pdf
It was when I began to read Mr. Nelson's epigraph that I realized my instincts were right on the money:
"I've pretty much given up trying to find some sort of intact file cabinet. But while I was at the compound
for the Port Authority Police, this ball of metal about the size of a basketball was delivered to them." —David Shayt, September 11 Collecting Curator and Museum Specialist, Division of Cultural History, National Museum of American History, Smithsonian Institution in "Relics from the Rubble," A&E TV, 2002 (see also http://americanhistory.si.edu/september11/collection/transcript.asp?ID=49)
"I never saw a file cabinet, never saw a desk, a chair, never saw a telephone, never saw any type of office furniture. There is no glass. It just disappeared and has become part of this fluffy white or gray dust." —Assistant Chief of Department, FDNY, Harry Meyers in Dennis Smith's Report from Ground Zero: The Story of the Rescue Efforts at the World Trade Center, Viking/Penguin, New York, 2002, p. 163.
"In an office building you have chairs, tables, electrical equipment, bathrooms, all sorts of fittings and there there was nothing. It was all pulverized into dust." —Eddie Bowles, "'Everything Was Pulverised': A New York Firefighter Reflects Ten Years On," thejournal.ie, Sept. 11, 2011.
>>Skip to video of the same title here above, many similar quotes collected and arranged by this author, with timed text and source info here in Appendix 1.
"[T]hose heading the cleanup and those removing the rubble at ground zero are trumpeting nothing short of a construction miracle.... The cleanup, it turns out, will take no more than nine months and cost no more than $750 million." —Charlie LeDuff and Steven Greenhouse, "Far From Business as Usual: A Quick Job at Ground Zero," New York Times, Jan. 21, 2002.
He then provides an disclaimer/acknowledgements section where we see his "credentials":
Dear Reader, This is the culmination of 9 years' research. It has grown into a new breed of book, one
containing 1,000+ links to sources, both obscure and official. More images, videos and stories
are linked below than ever before in a work of nonfiction, I bet. I challenge you to read it all.
About the author: Matt Nelson got a B.A. in English (Magna Cum Laude) with a
concentration in creative writing – and created non-profit site http://www.911conspiracy.tv,
now home of the 9/11 video and TV archive. Reach out to matt(at)911conspiracy.tv.
Acknowledgments: I would like to thank the dedicated 9/11 researchers around the world
who have often been branded "conspiracy theorists." Many are anonymous. You know who
you are. Big thanks also to the so-called debunkers, who have helped compile evidence to
deflate many unfortunate myths.
Dedication: For the victims of the September 11, 2001 World Trade Center attacks, their
numbers always growing, I repeat the words of the 9/11 anthem: "We will never forget." We
will never forget.
Now onto his introduction/thesis:
This book began as a mathematical effort to reconcile the total weight of the seven WTC buildings – the entire World Trade Center complex including basements – with the total weight of debris reportedly removed from Ground Zero. The basic premise was that if I could get accurate numbers for both the buildings and their post-9/11 debris, I could simply subtract debris weight from structure weight to learn how much building material was pulverized into the dust and ash clouds that turned day into night. How much was incinerated? Were those dust clouds too dense for gravity-driven collapses? Were the debris piles consistent with fires and structural failures? Or did the answers to these questions suggest planned demolition and therefore "inside job?" While researching, I discovered the math had already been done. (Gregory Urich, "Analysis of the Mass and Potential Energy of World Trade Center Tower 1," Journal of 9/11 Studies, 2007.) The WTC wasn't quite as massive as the reports boasted, I learned. As far as the before and after comparison went, everything seemed to add up on paper. But the stark images and disturbing witness testimony of extreme ruin compelled me to find more sources.
So I uncovered, collected, and compared as many of these various numbers as possible. To put it simply, the numbers by themselves didn't begin to sum things up. The respected construction trade magazine Engineering News-Record said the WTC "site concrete was largely pulverized into fine dust...." (Nadine M. Post and Debra K. Rubin, "Debris Mountain Starts to Shrink," enr.com [cached], 10/1/2001.) The dust in some places measured "several inches thick on the ground." (Joe Dunne, First Deputy Police Commissioner in Dennis Smith's Report from Ground Zero: The Story of the Rescue Efforts at the World Trade Center, Viking/Penguin, New York, 2002, p. 63.) Watch the WTC Tower 1 cloud form in this collapse video. Although "the 9-11 skeptics are apparently unable to offer any quantitative evidence that the observed pulverization of concrete in the collapse of the Twin Towers required pre-planted explosives," the contents of the WTC dust alone have provided compelling evidence. (quoting Dr. Frank R. Greening, "The Pulverization of Concrete in WTC 1 During the Collapse Events of 9-11," Nov. 2006.) See the chapter "Dust" below.
I should point out that the final official report on the collapse of the towers did not generate enough "quantitative evidence" to produce a working model demonstrating either WTC tower's total destruction (see NIST FAQ 10.). Moreover, critical arguments strongly refute what little modeling was done for the supposed collapse initiations. See the section below titled "Investigations." Some said WTC 1 suffered core failure; some said perimeter column failure. Since it didn't make sense that the core would fail, NIST chose perimeter.
Elements of the dust and other "conspiracy theorists'" evidence refuting the official theories have always struggled against the easy, logical assumption that the hijacked jets – seen repeatedly on television colliding with the towers – made them fall (only in concert with the jet fuel-fed fire and dislodged fireproofing, officials said). The apparent structural failures seemed to initiate at the points of airplane impact, no less. Obvious, right?
"...now you see the images and it all seems so cut-and-dried, it all seems so utterly clear. Plane hits, plane hits, building falls down, building falls down, but it wasn't that way at all on the day. We were immersed in confusion... almost suffocated by chaos." —ABC News anchor on 9/11, Peter Jennings, when interviewed later by the Smithsonian Institution
Now more than ten years later, that confusion can be confronted with hindsight (not 20/20). Researching the events of that day has tended to dig up loads of garbage, as if one had dug too deep at the landfill where the WTC debris now rests. No doubt, the information has been sifted more patiently for evidence.
Virtually unidentifiable rubble (and bodies) enabled an amazingly fast cleanup of the site. The destruction of evidence and investigative failures at the World Trade Center ruins go hand in hand with the quantities and qualities of the physical evidence... often referred to as "debris." By looking at "Ground Zero" from a few different angles (after opening our eyes) it should be easy to see there was some destructive force in addition to gravity – that the World Trade Center was demolished as the world watched. If you disagree, read yet.
I invite you to watch "9/11 Debris: An Investigation of Ground Zero," parts one and two to see and hear about Ground Zero. Part one makes this investigation valid with compiled reports, images and testimony showing the extreme destruction. Not only were expert witnesses and seasoned workers shocked by what they saw, they were struck by what they did not see. The many professionals' astonishment at the pulverization implied a question.
"When you look at where the towers used to stand, there is surprisingly so little rubble. Where did all the rubble go?" —ABC News anchor Peter Jennings to on-scene reporter George Stephanopoulos 9/12/2001 at 12:44 p.m. Watch TV archive clip [mirror].) So begins part two of my video "9/11 Debris."
Mainstream media reports attempted to explain the missing debris. Was it the "120 dump trucks" that removed debris overnight, as Mayor Rudolph Giuliani mentioned on NBC at 9:52 a.m. on 9/12? (see TV archive clip) Was it the vast 70-foot deep basement that UK Channel 4 wrongly described as "hundreds of feet deep?" ("9/11: Ground Zero Underworld" 2007 – See "9/11 Debris" part 2 at 9:00.) Or was the answer hidden in the inches-deep dust – a blanket for a city of people unconscious of the reality of the nightmare?
The paragraphs below are largely composed of impersonal details, behind which a thousand stories of grief and hope seem to be forgotten. Ground Zero for the first weeks was a "city within a city," as a Nov. 4, 2001 CBS segment described it (video source: "What We Saw," DVD with book by CBS News, 2001 [mirror]). Donations poured into New York from all over the continent, as did volunteers. See "The Heart of Steel" (2006) for this side of the story. The awesome compassion dedicated to searching the rubble for survivors and victims' remains quickly converted into efficient manpower for debris removal – that "indefatigably focused activity that began with the simple goal of rescue but evolved into a therapeutic tool for resolution and acceptance." (Jeannette Catsoulis, in a 2005 review of Lou Angeli's "Answering the Call: Ground Zero's Volunteers"). Even after hope of finding survivors faded, the shock and sadness were alleviated by the will to help, however that was possible.
The businesspeople who helped raze the WTC took advantage. What for many seemed like an exemplary act of American solidarity and cooperation in turn opened a way for the down side of patriotism – unquestioning following of leaders and popular opinion. (Sadly, our leaders did not want an investigation into the events of September 11th, for supposed fear of taking resources away from the new "War on Terror." V. P. Cheney. See the acclaimed documentary "9/11 Press for Truth," [mirror] specifically 14:00 – 26:00. More here.)
Meanwhile, the controversial Patriot Act was pushed into law, only after "the two primary holdouts" in the Senate received US-made anthrax letters. Letters to the media also stoked fear. (Colleen McGuire, "The 2001 Anthrax Deception: The Case for a Domestic Conspiracy – Book Summary Published Oct 28, 2014 by Graeme MacQueen," 911tap.org)
"UNITED WE STAND" became the national theme, as seen on ubiquitous bumper stickers with American flags – millions of flags. Never mind the fact that most Americans were so united in the act of watching television.
I stopped there, feeling my IQ dropping.
Has anyone else come across this book and video or heard of its claims? I'm sure, judging by the introduction, that it, despite his protestations, that it just rehashes long debunked claims and myths (which makes his nod to "skeptics who helped him" odd) but it's possible there are some unique ones that would be interesting to debunk.
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