Claim: A UFO crashed in 1933 Italy and the US Recovered it

Puthoff's PhD is in electrical engineering, not physics.

Where his theories have ventured into pure physics, they sometimes result in extraordinary claims and they have been criticized, e.g.
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Massimo Pigliucci called Puthoff's hopes to extract zero-point energy as running contrary to the laws of physics: "a proposition... that violates basic principles of thermodynamics and that is considered pseudoscience by credentialed physicists."
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_E._Puthoff

In fairness to @owntheissue, I think they meant claimed "government level ET conspiracies" (Please correct me if I'm wrong!)
 
I don't know Sarfetti and Pais off the top of my head, but Puthoff is famous for believing that Uri Geller could bend spoons with his mind (rather than stage magic). Puthoff's judgment about what is (im)possible or not is clearly not reliable.

A PhD does not confer common sense onto a person.
The work of Jack Sarfatti was very well known to readers of sci.physics, and, by crossposting, sci.math, where I encountered it. The sane posters never wasted any time with his stuff, filing it in the not-even-wrong bucket almost immediately. Search engines suck nowadays, and google took over and eviscerated DejaNews, so there's little hope of finding any examples thereon. However a sane scientist (Peter Woit) has once or twice made reference to Sarfatti on his /Not Even Wrong/ blog:

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Here's a story from the boundaries of conventional physics of the sort I normally try to resist paying any attention to, but couldn't quite help myself this time:

Last week I noticed amongst the e-mail from Jack Sarfatti that clutters my (and many other people's) mailbox some forwarded messages about a kerfuffle involving the withdrawal of a conference invitation to Brian Josephson. [...]

This mini-scandal has now made it to a Times Higher Education story today, which starts off:

An extraordinary spat has broken out after a Nobel prizewinning physicist was "uninvited" from a forthcoming conference because of his interest in the paranormal. [...]

The current situation seems to be that Josephson, David Peat and Jack Sarfatti were un-invited, but now Josephson and Peat have been re-invited.
-- https://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=2914

Which admittedly doesn't say much about Sarfatti, but I believe says enough.

EDIT: here's another Woit reference to him, and how he was effectively barred from publishing by a journal editor:
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... an editorial in the July 15, 1973 issue of Physical Review D (Particles and Fields) written by Samuel Goudsmit, the editor-in-chief. The editorial is entitled "IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT: Regarding Papers about Fundamental Theories". Goudsmit does not specifically refer to quantum foundations papers, but writes:

The subject matter of these papers usually concerns a fundamental aspect of theoretical physics. Extreme verbosity and vagueness of expression makes these papers hard to read and understand. A paucity of mathematics as compared to wordage distinguishes them from the more conventional theoretical papers. The author proposes new theories, but their specific assumptions are usually hidden behind very lengthy arguments. Sometimes the paper contains a reinterpretation of existing theories which the author considers more satisfactory than the prevailing views, though no new experimental consequences are expected.

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Update: In the comments Blake Stacey suggests that the 1972 experiment of Freedman-Clauser may have been what led to papers being submitted to Physical Review that inspired Goudsmit's July 1973 editorial. Looking more into this, it's quite possible that the kind of thing Goudsmit was concerned about were the sorts of papers Jack Sarfatti was writing around this time.
-- https://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=11263
 
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Team "must be ET" exploit this fact.
Their knowledge of Continuity of Government SAP's or (Presidential) PEAD's provides a ready made limited hangout for their ongoing ET narrative.

Its no co-incidence that the country with the highest levels of compartmentalised secrecy also has the most government level ET conspiracies.
Which country has the most compartmentalized secrecy is, I would say, quite unknown. Differences in form of government, legal systems and military organization makes this a question of definitions rather than organizational structures.
Basing the number on the number of Shocking Headlines in British tabloids will certainly skew the numbers, they don't have much access to Chinese or North Korean government classified internal organizational documents.

We don't know what we don't know, we can only guess.

Continuity of Government and PEAD's (Presidential Emergency Action Documents) are all part of keeping the government running during sudden catastrophic disruptions. While the sudden arrival of aliens would certainly constitute a disruption, possibly a catastrophic one at that, there are plenty of other places to hide those organizations running ET conspiracies.
Assuming of course, that there are any.
 
In fairness to @owntheissue, I think they meant claimed "government level ET conspiracies" (Please correct me if I'm wrong!)

Correct - not sure how (in context) that sentence could be taken any other way.
(English as a second language and/or ET conspiracy believers excluded).

PhD level rebuttals -
One PhD doing a drive by on a blog post doesn't qualify as peer review.
Sarfatti, Pais and Puthoff have published more than enough material on "Metric Engineering" for someone to provide a proper analysis of validity in context of their claims - but there is none.
I would also expect some comments on quality and originality - as per the normal peer review process.

US "OverSecrecy":
Not saying secrecy is bad- but at some point when your budget grows- it can become unwieldy.
Bi Partisan agreement and certainly nothing new re: the US:

Avrial Haines "overclassification is a national security problem": https://nextgov.com/policy/2022/05/us-spy-chief-reiterates-overclassification-concerns/366763

"50 million documents classified a year":
Source: https://www.npr.org/2023/01/17/1149426416/the-u-s-has-an-overclassification-problem-says-one-former-special-counsel


"$18 billion to classify vs. ~$102 million to declassify": https://nextgov.com/policy/2022/05/us-spy-chief-reiterates-overclassification-concerns/366763

DoD IG — 70% had classification discrepancies: https://fas.org/publication/dodig-overclass

9/11 Commission "stalled, stovepiped, withheld, distorted, or simply ignored": https://www.securityinfowatch.com/g...h-bureaucracy-contributed-to-the-9-11-attacks
 
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Classification vs Incentives
If you under classify a piece of intelligence and it gets out, you could face anything from a reprimand to prison time.
If you over classify a piece of intelligence, chances are you will retire before anyone notices.
Most of the classifications applied to the day's newly produced intelligence is generated automatically based on the source program, the technology used, and the target. Downgrading that classification requires a human to look at it and that person must be able to defend their decision.
 
Conditional constraints based on our lack of understanding according to Sarfatti, Pais and Puthoff (all PhD physicists).
Their "metric engineering warps space so no shockwave is formed" claim is A: without evidence and B: remains unchallenged.

One extraordinary claim from a PhD doesnt usually warrant a response but if you've got 3 all roughly saying the same thing - the lack of credentialled review/commentary by similar SME PhD's only serves to perpetuate a bad science scenario.

It's 3 guys.

The American Physical Society, a professional organization for Physicist and related fields has 50,000 members:

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The American Physical Society (APS) is a not-for-profit membership organization of professionals in physics and related disciplines, comprising nearly fifty divisions, sections, and other units.

Members50,000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Physical_Society

That's just one organization in the US. As noted up-thread, Puthoff's PhD is in Electrical Engineering, and Pais' is in Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering, so maybe they can be members. Sarfatti's is in Physics.

Puthoff has been discussed at length on the forum. He has many fringe beliefs, including remote viewing, paranormal and an insistence that the US government and it's contractors have crashed alien UFOs in their possession. He was a big part of Skinwalker Ranch, both in Bigelows private NIDS program and the DOD sponsored AAWSAP program.

He and his sometimes employee, Eric Davis, wrote a number of highly speculative papers under the AAWSAP contract including subjects like zero-point/vacuum energy, warp drives and teleportation. As noted up-thread he believed Uri Geller could bend spoons with his mind, Joe McMoneagle could remote view distant locations and psychic Ingo Swann could effect a magnometer with his mind. As late as 2025 he appeared in the movie The Age of Disclosure once again claiming the government has crashed alien UFOs.

Sarfatti at least met with Puthoff and his partner at SRI, Russel Targ during their Remote Viewing experiments:

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Sarfatti claims to have been recruited in the 1970s by agents of the CIA and DOD to work on both the physics of consciousness and the propulsion of "flying saucers."[citation needed]​ MIT professor David Kaiser mentions these connections in his book How the Hippies Saved Physics. As proof, Sarfatti cites a recording of his 1973 meeting with Harold E. Puthoff, Russell Targ, and others during his visit to Stanford Research Institute.[13]​

Sarfatti's name appears in several released CIA documents, including a summary for the STARGATE project for remote viewing published June 1, 1979.[14]​
He seems to have been involved in New Age type endeavors at the Esalen Institute:
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A longtime habitué of Caffe Trieste, Sarfatti has been involved in the Fundamental Fysiks Group, the Esalen Institute-affiliated Physics–Consciousness Research Group, and the 100 Year Starship project.[16]​[17]​
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Sarfatti
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Over the next few years, Esalen became the center of practices and beliefs that made up the New Age movement, from Eastern religions/philosophy, to alternative medicine and mind-body interventions, from transpersonal to Gestalt practice.[6]​​
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esalen_Institute

And possibly more associations with Puthuff, SRI and the remote viewing stuff while he was part the Fundamental Fysiks Group:​
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Given quantum theory's perceived implications for the study of parapsychology and telepathy, the group cultivated patrons such as the Central Intelligence Agency, Defense Intelligence Agency, and the human potential movement. In 1972, the CIA and DIA set up a research program, jokingly called ESPionage,[11]​ which financed experiments into remote viewing at the Stanford Research Institute (SRI), where the Fundamental Fysiks Group became what Kaiser calls its house theorists.[12]​ The group also attempted in mid-1975 to independently reproduce the experiments done by SRI in the field; in particular, an experiment featuring one subject in the laboratory attempting to draw or describe a scene, observed by a different individual from a remote location outside of the laboratory. An independent panel of judges was to then determine how close the produced images were to the target location. These experiments were determined not to be statistically significant, though Kaiser notes that one subject showed detailed descriptions of other targets than the one in question at the time.[13]​
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_Fysiks_Group

Pais' famously filed a series of patents, most of which have since lapsed or been abandoned, on behalf of the US Navy. Much of these used variations on "The Pais Effect":

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Central to all of Pais's inventions is a theoretical concept he calls the "Pais Effect," which he describes as the generation of extremely high electromagnetic energy fluxes through the controlled motion of electrically charged matter subjected to accelerated vibration and/or accelerated spin.[4]​[8]​ Pais claims that this effect can interact with the quantum vacuum energy state to produce phenomena such as inertial mass reduction and room-temperature superconductivity.[8]​
Some of these patents seemed to have been pushed through due to FOMO (my bold):

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The patent was initially rejected, but was granted after James Sheehy, the Naval Aviation Enterprise's chief technology officer, wrote to the United States Patent and Trademark Office asserting that the invention was operable and warning that the Chinese military were developing similar technology.[6]​[18]​
This is similar to the creation of Project Stargate because it was feared the Soviets were using Psy or one of the reasons for the proposed KONA BLUE project to reverse engineer UFOs, because of fear that the Chinese were doing it. Note that the antagonists change, but the FOMO remains.

In any event, "The Pais Effect" has never been demonstrated:

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According to Timothy Boulay, NAWCAD's Communications Director, testing occurred from October 2016 to September 2019 at a total cost of $508,000, with the vast majority of expenditure going to personnel salaries.[4]​[25]​

Pais said those experiments had not yet produced the 1 Coulomb charge he considered necessary for the Pais Effect to work.[5]​

At the conclusion of the testing period, NAWCAD determined that the "Pais Effect" could not be demonstrated, and stated that no further research was conducted.[4]​
And no other physicists consider it real:

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The patents have been met with widespread skepticism from the physics community. The Drive reported that every physicist its journalists consulted over a two-year period asserted that the "Pais Effect" had no scientific basis in reality and that the patent language was filled with pseudoscientific jargon.[4]​
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvatore_Pais

So, 2 guys that are heavily into esoterica, Psy, New Age and other fringe subjects and 1 guy that claims to have created a new effect that their is yet any evidence for.

And when these guys do publish fringe stuff, like Puthoff's paper on zero-point energy, they are critiqued and shown to be problematic (my bold):

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In the late 1980s and 1990s, Puthoff co-authored papers[28]​[29]​ using the model of stochastic electrodynamics that leads to a model of inertia as an electromagnetic drag force on accelerating particles produced by interaction with the zero-point field.[30]​ This concept built on Andrei Sakharov's proposal in 1968 that the gravitational constant was a consequence of zero-point fluctuations in the vacuum.[31]​: 162 ​ Steve Carlip disputed one of Puthoff's 1989 papers for containing a serious computational error which makes the effect negligible;[32]​ Puthoff responded that a different parameter value in the model would restore its usefulness.[31]​ The 1994 paper was the subject of a news article in Science.[33]​ Subsequent analysis by Yefim S. Levin raising numerous questions concerning the mathematical correctness of the formula and the use of non-relativistic treatments of magnetic effects, concluding that model does not show inertia as a result of zero-point-field effects.[34]​ The cosmological implications of a different 1989 paper by Puthoff[35]​ on the origin electromagnetic zero-point energy was examined by Paul S. Wesson[36]​ Among numerous difficulties, general relativity requires that such energy not gravitate, so it cannot be similar to electromagnetic radiation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_E._Puthoff

That was 30 years ago, but Puthoff and Davis were still selling Zero-Point Energy papers to the DOD in 2009. Same with his papers on Remote Viewing:

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Psychologists David Marks and Richard Kammann attempted to replicate Puthoff and Targ's remote viewing experiments. In a series of thirty-five studies, they could not replicate the results.
That was back in the '70s using psychics like Swann, Geller and McMoneagle. But in 2009, Puthoff was back doing Remote Viewing experiments with McMoneagle at Skinwalker Ranch for the AAWSAP program.

Just because he keeps repeating something doesn't make it true or unchallenged. Many of his claims have been challenged, he just ignores the critiques. Pais never published anything about his Pais effect in a journal, so there is no rebuttal. As noted, when he did publish stuff in the patents, it was referred to as "pseudoscientific jargon".

I'm not sure what you're getting at.
 
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