Children present atmospheric....lies

GregMc

Senior Member.
There is another sad development in the hoax propaganda in that someone is trying to use the emotional appeal of children to spread lies about aviation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o3dF17EROk&lc

I posted some comments on the video and they were abruptly deleted by the owner because they contradicted the misleading dogma of the video. He/she seems to have accidentally left one of the comments there, but deleted at least 5 others. The poster was particularly defensive when I mentioned that Scott Steven has no qualifications and lied on his resume. http://alb.merlinone.net/mweb/wmsql.wm.request?oneimage&imageid=5760563
I don't know what the best approach to deal with such a thing is but suspect that as the video has a lot of emotional appeal using kids, it may gain some foothold in people who respond to its emotive style. It seems carefully scripted and uses voice talent in a carefully manipulated way that has a flavour of Stevens, Murphy and his cohorts.
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Sorry, I'm not sure if it's worth starting a thread on its own but I thought since such a vid might gain some traction, it would be helpful if it had a corresponding debunking page for people doing google searches for it etc.
 

Cairenn

Senior Member.
I posted this, let's see how long it stays up

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Using children to spread disinformation is shameful. No one is spraying barium or aluminum. Contrails have always persisted, I have seen those since the 50s. If the atmosphere has enough moisture, clouds will result.

The rainwater test is useless. The rain picks up dust from the atmosphere--dust that can be from 1000s of miles away. Dust from the Sahara is killing coral reefs in the Caribbean

Look for FACTS and SCIENCE from credible sources. This comment will be removed-ask why"
 

GregMc

Senior Member.
It might be an idea to alert the poster that this vid now has a metabunk page that will highlight the factual errors it contains.
 

HappyMonday

Moderator
This one has already made quite an impact, as David Icke has blogged and tweeted it.

Naturally, your comments appear to have been deleted.
 

JRBids

Senior Member.
They must have gotten a talking point that you should stress the "kid" part. A "friend" posted this to my FB wall, you should do this ESPECIALLY if you have children.


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JRBids

Senior Member.
On further digging I see my friend got his info from the same page Greg McK may have got his video. :)
 

Jay Reynolds

Senior Member.
Though the video maker claims that aluminum is toxic, the last link tells you to bathe in bentonite clay which contains about 18% aluminum. The facts are that aluminum silicate clay dust is commonly found in the air and will be found in the rain as well. This dust is not toxic or else the people following these instructions would be dead.

Further tests made at Mt. Shasta found BOTH aluminum and silica dust present in the rain water, indicating that the aluminum is associated with ordinary dust, not some toxic brew of geoengineering chemicals.

I bet the kids would love a hot bath and rubdown with sesame oil, but scaring them with false tales that they are being poisoned doesn't help them at all.
Shame on you!

here is my comment on the video:
kids.jpg
 
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Mick West

Administrator
Staff member
I commented on there for a while, but then they deleted all my comments and blocked me. In fact they seem to have blocked any comment that attempts to explain what they are claiming. This leaves a rather unbalanced stream of comments which it them responding to the skeptics questions that they have deleted.

https://www.metabunk.org/metamirror_cache/www.youtube.com_watch




Notice all their comments are "in reply to ...." but the comments they are replying to are comments that they deleted.

This are my comments, just before they were deleted:
 
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Steve Funk

Senior Member.
Ironically, his replies are still there, and there is a box to click to show the original comment. But it comes up "comment no longer exists."
 

Met Watch

Moderator
I'm posting what I can. Don't expect the comments to last long.

EDIT: Aaaaand, they are gone. With just a little smart comment that says "how fun...."
 

Cairenn

Senior Member.
He sent me a reply to my post

Reply to your comment on: children present atmospheric crimes and danger
you dont know anything about us kids. your remarks are childish and jabbing...you have nothing to add here but dis-info. why does spray turn on and off? why do clouds have lines that start exactly at the cloud. you fail to address what we are saying. your a shill
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children present atmospheric crimes and danger
Jet Aircraft anomolies, metals in rainwater and patents all reveal that geoengineering our atmosphere has been deployed by the powers that be. This is literally an experiment with Life itself.

chemtrails contrails weather modification geoengineerin...
See all comments


Normal comments, doesn't address my comments and name calling
 

Jay Reynolds

Senior Member.
I'm posting what I can. Don't expect the comments to last long.

EDIT: Aaaaand, they are gone. With just a little smart comment that says "how fun...."
I answered their query about why contrails start and stop by suggesting a simple google search for "Broken Contrails"
That was immediately deleted.
My comments directing them to Steve Funk's rain tests at Mt. Shasta was also deleted, and now I'm blocked, too.

These people say they want answers, but they delete them as soon as they arrive.

Strange way to educate children....not...

By the comments it's clear that the whole thing is done by an adult who is not interested in the truth at all.
Shame on you!
 
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JRBids

Senior Member.
I asked a couple of questions and they answered them. Don't they get sprayed to? They have figured out ways to protect themselves. They have doctors giving them treatments.

Why do contrails not persist and chemtrails do? "because chemtrails have amounts of aluminum, barium, strontium, sulpher, mnagnesium and even flouride that are hundreds and even thousands of times higher than air has....as the rain tests prove...the metals are in the air. when we test rain that had no trails we dont find the metals. Look up geoengineering...this is not something made up...millions, perhaps as many as 100 million people are complaining about this. there is a NEW youtube about chemtrails about every 4-5 minutes 24-7"

I asked a couple questions that haven't been answered yet.
 

Cairenn

Senior Member.
Ask them about the families of the pilots, their parents, siblings and such--then point out that that would be 10s of thousands of folks and how is THAT being covered up?
 

Ross Marsden

Senior Member.
Comments on that You Tube video "children present atmospheric crimes and danger" are now moderated.

In reply to ChemCloudKid's "how fun..." comment, I posted
I know! There are quite a few comments by you in answer to other comments that now no longer exist. Why is that? Why were the comments deleted and by whom? It looks bizarre and really spoils the ebb and flow of the commenting dynamic. Please restore the comments, or alt least prevent them from being deleted. They are probably important and interesting comments.
 

Belfrey

Senior Member.
I sent him a message inviting him to this thread to discuss. Not holding my breath, but you never know.
 

JRBids

Senior Member.
Ask them about the families of the pilots, their parents, siblings and such--then point out that that would be 10s of thousands of folks and how is THAT being covered up?
One of the previous answers were "if they can do this then they can find a way".
Classic "hand wave" trope.
 

Ross Marsden

Senior Member.
I am appalled by this. These people, who don't know the facts of this matter, have written scripts for children to read in an attempt to emotionally appeal to the so-called uninformed. I, personally, have been criticised for my activity in debunking this meme, and asked how will I justify my actions to my my children and grandchildren when "all is revealed".

Anyway, for the record, I posted this which is "Pending Approval!"...
ChildrenPromoteCTMeme.gif
 

Cairenn

Senior Member.
Can someone have more than one account to use to log in to You Tube? Do you just need another email addy?
 

SeanDWalker

New Member
Strikes me you all need to make youtube videos, include scary music and big bold white letters saying "ABSOLUTE FACT that THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW"..

always gets me hooked. :p
 

JRBids

Senior Member.
I have a friend who is an evolutionary biologist, she is a college professor. Last night I asked her if any of her students ever mentioned conspiracy theories like we're being sprayed by the government, or Bill Gates is vaccinating in Africa to control population. She said no, she never hears those. Her students just keep asking questions like "but where do Adam and Eve fit into all this". :) Oh did I mention it's a Christian college.
 
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