Debunked: Scott Stevens, former TV weather man.

[Mick West]

[Update] I've met Scott Stevens, and he does not refer to himself as a Meterologist. He refers to himself as a TV weatherman. So I want to be clear this this "debunk" is to put into perspective the claims of other people who repeat some of Scott's theories as if he was a working, credentialed, meteorologist. Scott is a nice guy with some rather eccentric and unscientific ideas that he honestly believes.


http://www.infowars.com/articles/science/weather_mod_stevens_quits_pursue_theories.htm

Since Katrina, Stevens has been in newspapers across the country where he was quoted in an Associated Press story as saying the Yakuza Mafia used a Russian-made electromagnetic generator to cause Hurricane Katrina in a bid to avenge the atomic bomb attack on Hiroshima.
[...]
Stevens, 39, who was born in Twin Falls, plans to remain in Pocatello, where his family remains. He said his family wishes him the best in his future endeavors.
It costs him hundreds of dollars each month to run his Web site, weatherwars.info, but he said that's a price he's willing to pay.
"There's a chess game going on in the sky," Stevens said. "It affects each and every one of us. It is the one common thread that binds us all together."
Although the theories espoused by Stevens - scalar weapons, global dimming - are definitely on the scientific fringe today, there are thousands of Web sites that mention such phenomena.
"The Soviets boasted of their geoengineering capabilities; these impressive accomplishments must be taken at face value simply because we are observing weather events that simply have never occurred before, never!" Stevens wrote on his Web site. "The evidence of these weapons at work found within the clouds overhead is simply unmistakable. These patterns and odd geometric shapes seen in our skies, each and every day, are clear and present evidence that our weather has been stolen from us, only to be used by those whose designs for humanity are rarely in alignment with that of the common man."

http://alb.merlinone.net/mweb/wmsql.wm.request?oneimage&imageid=5760563 (http://archive.is/Zpj2D)

WRGB WEATHERMAN RESIGNS UNDER CLOUD CHANNEL 6 SAYS STEVENS LIED ON RESUME

CHRIS STURGIS Staff writer
Section: CAPITAL REGION, Page: B1
Date: Wednesday, February 15, 1995

NISKAYUNA Weatherman Scott Stevens has resigned from WRGB (Channel 6) after station management accused him of lying about his credentials.


In a statement read during Tuesday's 6 p.m. broadcast, David Lynch, vice president and general manager, said WRGB ``hired Scott Stevens to be chief meteor-ologist based on faulty information provided by Scott'' and his agency. WRGB subsequently learned that ``Scott has never completed the necessary academic course of studies that would lead him to the official title of meteorologist,'' according to the statement read by anchorwoman JoAnne Purtan.

Lynch's statement emphasized that Stevens' allegedly false presentation of his credentials and the station's concern for its integrity was the issue, not Stevens' performance.

``During his time at WRGB, Scott Stevens has done a superb job of forecasting the weather. His knowledge of meteorology and his broadcasting experience have provided him with the background to serve you well,'' the statement said.

Meteorologist Steve LaPointe will replace Stevens on the 5, 6, 6:30 and 11 p.m. broadcasts, the station announced.

When contacted Tuesday night, Stevens, 28, an Idaho native, said he never lied about not completing his bachelor's degree at the University of Kansas.

He said he plans to finish his degree, which he originally put on the back burner in favor of a television job. ``As a 22-year-old, when you get a good job offer, that's what talks. My priorities weren't right,'' he said.

He contends that his resignation was forced by a technicality; namely, the credentials required to be a meteorologist.

``Meteorologist is a very vague term . . . and then when you get into television on top of that, it adds another whole mix into it,'' he said.

``It's television. It's different than academia. They're buying a personality. They're buying talent. That's what the TV game is about. It's about people,'' Stevens continued.

He said he has no immediate plans. ``I wasn't thinking about looking for work, to be honest with you. It's time to gather the thoughts, and goals and mind, and go on.''

Stevens said his time in the Capital Region was enjoyable. ``The people have been surprisingly wonderful. You have a lot of preconceived ideas about New Yorkers,'' he said. ``I've enjoyed living up here and was looking forward to a much longer tenure.''​

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/2005-09-20-wacky-weatherman_x.htm (http://archive.is/AOEDY)

Here's the story that started it:

Cold-war device used to cause Katrina?An Idaho weatherman says Japan's Yakuza mafia used a Russian-made electromagnetic generator to cause Hurricane Katrina in a bid to avenge itself for the Hiroshima atom bomb attack — and that this technology will soon be wielded again to hit another U.S. city.

Meteorologist Scott Stevens, a nine-year veteran of KPVI-TV in Pocatello, said he was struggling to forecast weather patterns starting in 1998 when he discovered the theory on the Internet. It's now detailed on Stevens' website, www.weatherwars.info, the Idaho Falls Post Register reported.

Stevens, who is among several people to offer alternative and generally discounted theories for the storm that flooded New Orleans, says a little-known oversight in physical laws makes it possible to create and control storms — especially if you're armed with the Cold War-era weapon said to have been made by the Russians in 1976. Stevens became convinced of the existence of the Russian device when he observed an unusual Montana cold front in 2004.

"I just got sick to my stomach because these clouds were unnatural and that meant they had (the machine) on all the time," Stevens said. "I was left trying to forecast the intent of some organization rather than the weather of this planet."
Stevens said oddities in Hurricane Katrina storm patterns underpin his theory.

And, according to his website, so does the fact that Katrina and Ivan — the name given to a destructive hurricane that hit Florida in September 2004 — both sound Russian.​

 

[Danny55]

Here's his FB page. Lots of photos of chemtrails and suchlike

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...type=1&aft=4180873243155#!/scott.stevens.1276 (http://archive.is/xnWxx)

 

[Mick West]

I've added an extract from the AP story to the top post.

 

[Jay Reynolds]

Here are his fellow weathermen discussing his situation:
http://www.medialine.com/medialineUBB/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=3;t=003890 (http://archive.is/NiPjc)

Years ago, most chemmies threw him under the bus:
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread10170-15.html (http://archive.is/Z7uvS)

An archived version of an article from 2007, with some commentary from a woman climing to be Steven's sister:
http://web.archive.org/web/20110518...still-fighting-to-prove-weatherwars-theories/ (http://archive.is/BwO7d)

 

[scombrid]

Years ago, most chemmies threw him under the bus:
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread10170-15.html (http://archive.is/Z7uvS)

Are they taking him back in? A lot of the chemmies are banging on about the weather control aspect of the "theory". I know in the youtube universe of Chemtrails, most chemmies have "HAARP" cloud videos too in which they freak out about hole-punch/fall-clouds and altocumulus undulatus and such. Plus, the king HAARPIE seems to be the most popular chemmie on Youtube.

Micheal Murphy is quoted in the thread https://www.metabunk.org/threads/71-Michael-J-Murphy-s-most-recent/page5 as saying:

While these programs have many different agendas, our focus in this film will uncover the weather control aspect of these damaging programs. During our travels we learned how the trails are used to control our weather, what specific technology is used in conjunction with the aerosols and how weather control is used to literally corporatize every natural system on the planet.

Murphy bringing the HAARPIES into his new project?

 

[Jay Reynolds]

Stevens' involvement with Murphy's new movie is the result of a quest for the lowest common denominator who will cooperate in this latest scam. Note that previous collaborators have abandoned MJM and aren't participating? Something is amiss there......

Stevens is now selling nostrums called "Ormus", some sort of salt solution which, if chemically analyzed, will surely be found to contain large amounts of aluminum and alkaline metals, especially strontium:
http://www.bluewateralchemy.com/ (http://archive.is/YL6qP)

 

[MikeC]

Stevens is an attention whore who is now selling nostrums called "Ormus", some sort of salt solution which, if chemically analyzed, will surely be found to contain large amounts of aluminum and alkaline metals, especially strontium:

Maybe not - there's a website↑, and links to patents & lots of flash sounding woo↑ - the list of elements in it is supposedly↑:

Stable, non-metallic, orbitally rearranged monoatomic transition elements selected from the group consisting of cobalt, nickel, copper, silver, gold, palladium, platinum, ruthenium, rhodium, iridium, and osmium having a doublet In the infrared spectra between 1400 and 1600 cm-1 and having a d orbital hole or holes sharing energy with an electron or electrons are described. These materials have specific application in forming catalysts, high-temperature ceramics, refractory materials corrosion resistant materials and they exhibit properties of high temperature super-conductivity and energy production. The materials are produced either from ores which do not analyze by conventional instruments for any of said transition and noble metals, or by conversion of pure metals or metal salts of said elements into the orbitally rearranged monoatomic species.

Rationalwiki has an article on it↑:

In short, Ormus makes a person a 5th dimensional being, and, of course, such a being can resurrect the dead, levitate, and teleport herself to wherever she wants to be. Not to mention sing in perfect harmony. Although common knowledge, it is good of Joel González to stress once again the capabilities of 5th dimensional beings.

Need to know anything else??

 

[Leifer]

I saw Scott Stevens in M. Murphy's "Why ITWATS".
I decided to look at his current site......just to see if he was selling anything.
He is......and it's quite bizarre, as has already been explained.

He is just another "rouge scientist" that Murphy is able scrape off the internet floor to add paper-thin legitimacy to his film(s), to fool the gullible by listing their former credentials.

I have no problem with someone chasing a personal epiphany. I only wish that people would check and balance those credentials with the "experts' " current beliefs, and apply those credentials realistically, to the subject at hand.

After all, Michael Shermer came from an evangelical Christian background, and Francis Collins^ went to an evangelical foreground.

 

[Jay Reynolds]

Stevens is in a manic phase. In a hushed conspiratorial whisper he is claiming that ordinary looking clouds are signs of "Massive Aerosol Operations" out in the pacific ocean.

​

To understand just how far gone he is you need only view this Q & A in the youtube comments:



Do birds of a'feather really flock together?

I also noticed this Q & A:



Call me curious, but this I had to see. Over at the National Weather Digest indeed there was indeed an article in which Stevens participated, but not as the author:
Heene, R., R. Stevens, and B. Slusser, 2008: Electromagnetic fields recorded in mesocyclones. Natl. Wea. Dig., 32, 35-44.
http://www.nwas.org/digest/papers/2008/Vol32No1/Pg35-Henne.pdf

Something seemed awfully familiar about the lead author's name, Richard Heene.

Turns out, Heene was the instigator of the 2009 "Balloon Boy Hoax"

The balloon boy hoax occurred on October 15, 2009 in Fort Collins, Colorado, when Richard and Mayumi Heene allowed a gas balloon filled with helium to float away into the atmosphere, and then claimed that their six-year-old son Falcon was inside it. At the time, it was reported by the mass media that the boy was apparently traveling at altitudes reaching 7,000 feet (2,100 m)[1] in a homemade balloon colored and shaped to resemble a silver flying saucer-type of UFO.[2][3][4] The event attracted worldwide attention.[1][5] Falcon was nicknamed "Balloon Boy" by some in the media.[6]

After more than an hour-long flight that covered more than 50 miles (80 km) across three counties,[7] the balloon landed about 12 miles (19 km) northeast of Denver International Airport. Authorities closed down the Denver airport and sent several National Guard helicopters and local police in pursuit. After the balloon landed and the boy was found not to be inside, authorities began a manhunt of the entire area, raising fears that he had fallen from the balloon; it was reported that an object had detached from the balloon and fallen to the ground.[3] Later that afternoon the boy was reported to have been hiding in his home's attic the entire time.[8]

Suspicions soon arose that the incident was a hoax and publicity stunt engineered by the boy's parents Richard and Mayumi Heene, particularly following the Heenes' interview with Wolf Blitzer on Larry King Live that evening. In response to a question about why he was hiding, Falcon said to his father, "You guys said that, um, we did this for the show."[9] On October 18, Larimer County sheriff Jim Alderden announced his conclusion that the incident was a hoax and that the parents would likely face several felony charges.[10][11] Richard Heene pled guilty on November 13, 2009, to the charge of attempting to influence a public servant. On December 23, 2009, Richard Heene was sentenced to 90 days in jail and Mayumi Heene to 20 days of weekend jail;[12] Richard was also ordered to pay $36,000 in restitution

​

 

[Mick West]

That's an interesting connection. Looks like Stevens was quite sensible about the Balloon Boy hoax:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMo...on-dad-scheming/story?id=8843001#.UK6OkuO6x6s

For the second time, a former colleague spoke out against Richard Heene, the father of "balloon boy" Falcon Heene, saying today that Thursday's balloon launch was likely a publicity stunt and that Heene has a history of putting his family in danger.

"I believe that Richard had a plan to send this craft aloft," said Scott Stevens, who used to work as a "storm chaser" with Heene. "Whether it was to leave the illusion that there was a boy on board, I don't know. [But] I believe it was a premeditated launch."

Not just a co-worker at the Science Detective Research Group in Fort Collins, Colo., Stevens said he was friends with Heene until the two had a falling out over Heene's insistence that his three young boys join them on dangerous storm searches where they "just did not need to be."

"I just thought he was beginning to push them into some things that were ethically on the edge. ... I knew at some point he would create a situation that would bring attention like he's having right now. I didn't want to be a part of that," Stevens said.

 

[Jay Reynolds]

That's an interesting connection. Looks like Stevens was quite sensible about the Balloon Boy hoax:

That article was before Heene's son let the cat out of the bag on national TV and the whole incident was revealed as a hoax......

Five days later, Stevens sang a different tune.....

Stevens has no doubt the alleged stunt, calling it "a hoax it from the beginning."

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500202_162-5400568.html (http://archive.is/jIhv8)

This is a good lesson for Michael J. Murphy and other chemtrails promoters. The day after one of their followers gets in trouble, they will turn on each other like angry wolves...............

Word.

 

[Jay Reynolds]

Debunkable as he may be, Scott Stevens is able to recognize airline liveries and capture them decently enough on video.

First, he captures an incoming Delta flight leaving NO CONTRAIL:



Then, he zooms in the video for a positive ID of the livery, as the plane begins to leave a contrail:



Here is the sort of photography which could yield a tail number, when taken at the proper angle:



See the action beginning at 5:30 minutes:

​

There is something else going on. And it isn't a simple ferrying of passengers from point to point, it just isn't the case. I can see, he's just too low and he's too slow. So there's something else he's investigating. And Delta Airlines has been compromised, Southwest Airlines has been compromised, United has been compromised, American has been compromised, UPS, FEDEX, British Airways, Lufthansa, Singapore, Japan, they're ALL IN ON IT!

They are ALL, EVERY SINGLE ONE participates either by allowing the Powers That Be to use their planes or to allow their planes to be used or to allow the paint of their company to be used. We can see that this is an ON/OFF situation, with regards to the trail.

So, we can call the FAA a bunch of liars, we can call the AMS, the American Metorological Society a bunch of liars, most of these weathermen are just clueless......"

This plane is certainly trackable using Flightaware. The origin and destination, duration, altitude and speed, all of this information is easily found on anyone's computer. You could buy a ticket and fly on the exact flight which probably passes over Steven's house every day. It would make a great movie.........

 

[Jay Reynolds]

Scott Stevens is jumping on to the Moore Oklahoma storm bandwagon. Here is his latest video:

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I tried to make a comment about a plane he clims is a "drone", but can be identified by livery as a Southwest airlines 373 as I have on many of his videos, and find that he has decided to ban any more comments.

 

[scombrid]

I have flown over his location multiple times on SWA 737s.

He makes some incorrect claims about the satellite image too.

At around the 3:20 mark in the video he starts going on about the unnatural waves in the clouds ahead of the storms.

The waves are gravity waves in the lower troposphere visible as they affect the diurnal cumulus field. Such waves are a good visual indication of wind sheer (change in direction and/or speed with height) and density inversion. Not an uncommon sight ahead of the type of front that can spawn super-cell t-storms. You have to have a density inversion for the waves to occur. This is refered to as a "cap" which will either be warm or dry air that inhibits convection because it is less dense than the surface mixed layer. The upper more buoyant layer flows over the more dense surface layer and you get waves.

The waves occur along a boundary between fluids of different density. Indeed there was a "cap" in place. It was weakest where the biggest storms broke out.

The forecast discussion from Norman NWS office that morning said:

IT APPEARS THE HIGHEST CHANCE AREA FOR SEVERE STORMS THIS
AFTERNOON AND EVENING MAY BE A BIT FARTHER SOUTH THAN
YESTERDAY...PERHAPS NEAR A DUNCAN TO PAULS VALLEY TO SEMINOLE
LINE. THE OKLAHOMA CITY AREA MAY BE AFFECTED...PARTICULARLY THE
SOUTH SIDE INCLUDING NORMAN AND MOORE. FIRST STORMS MAY DEVELOP A
BIT EARLIER AS A RESULT OF SLIGHTLY WEAKER CAPPING...


THE LATEST INFORMATION IS INDICATING THAT WE ARE SETTING UP FOR
ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT SEVERE WEATHER EPISODE ACROSS PARTS OF CENTRAL
INTO SOUTH-CENTRAL INTO SOUTHEAST OKLAHOMA THIS AFTERNOON AND THIS
EVENING. ALTHOUGH THE 12Z OUN SOUNDING INDICATES A RATHER
SUBSTANTIAL CAPPING INVERSION

Even though Scott faked his way into a TV meteorologist job, he should be able to recognize such weather features. I think he does.

He also has no excuse for not knowing how many SWA 737s fly over his location regularly.

This has to be deliberate on his part.

 

[muttkat]

That's an interesting connection. Looks like Stevens was quite sensible about the Balloon Boy hoax:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMo...on-dad-scheming/story?id=8843001#.UK6OkuO6x6s

For the second time, a former colleague spoke out against Richard Heene, the father of "balloon boy" Falcon Heene, saying today that Thursday's balloon launch was likely a publicity stunt and that Heene has a history of putting his family in danger.

"I believe that Richard had a plan to send this craft aloft," said Scott Stevens, who used to work as a "storm chaser" with Heene. "Whether it was to leave the illusion that there was a boy on board, I don't know. [But] I believe it was a premeditated launch."

Not just a co-worker at the Science Detective Research Group in Fort Collins, Colo., Stevens said he was friends with Heene until the two had a falling out over Heene's insistence that his three young boys join them on dangerous storm searches where they "just did not need to be."

"I just thought he was beginning to push them into some things that were ethically on the edge. ... I knew at some point he would create a situation that would bring attention like he's having right now. I didn't want to be a part of that," Stevens said.

Good choice on Stevens part.

 

[scombrid]

In a video blaming the Moore Oklahoma tornado on HAARP/Chemtrails etc...



Scott Stevens calls wavy clouds highly unusual and unnatural.

A couple of posts up I explained them as visual evidence of thermal capping and wind sheer. As such, similar clouds should often appear in association with tornado outbreaks. I just had the thought to see if I could find old satellite images of historic outbreaks.

Here's one from a tornado outbreak in Ohio and PA May 31, 1985: Take note of the clouds over PA and NY ahead of the actual thunderstorms and compare them to what Stevens points to at about the 3:20 mark in his video about Moore OK in 2013.

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/cle/office/localinterest/1985Tornado/1985Tornado.php

 

[scombrid]

The "waves" and "ripples" are present in satellite images from a tornado outbreak in 1985 and in 2013 (a bunch of others too). HAARP or waves forming along the boundary between two layers of air of different densities moving with different velocities?

HAARP wasn't around in 1985? No. What are the waves then, Scott Stevens, if not natural and what was causing them in 1985?

 

[muttkat]

The "waves" and "ripples" are present in satellite images from a tornado outbreak in 1985 and in 2013 (a bunch of others too). HAARP or waves forming along the boundary between two layers of air of different densities moving with different velocities?

HAARP wasn't around in 1985? No. What are the waves then, Scott Stevens, if not natural and what was causing them in 1985?

I'm just wondering. Where you live, do you see those puffy cauliflower type looking clouds up in the skies? Do you live in a drought stricken area? I use to see them where I live but not no more. All I see are those spidery cotton candy looking clouds. A couple weeks ago I saw some puffy cauliflower clouds and took some pictures of them because they are a rare occurrence around where I live now. A friend of mine had driven to North Carolina from Texas and saw big puffy cauliflower clouds away from the area where we live & took pictures because she never sees them anymore either.

 

[Cairenn]

We see them all the time here in Dallas.

 

[muttkat]

We see them all the time here in Dallas.

You probably do but they are a rare occurrence by Corpus.

 

[muttkat]

In a video blaming the Moore Oklahoma tornado on HAARP/Chemtrails etc...



Scott Stevens calls wavy clouds highly unusual and unnatural.

A couple of posts up I explained them as visual evidence of thermal capping and wind sheer. As such, similar clouds should often appear in association with tornado outbreaks. I just had the thought to see if I could find old satellite images of historic outbreaks.

Here's one from a tornado outbreak in Ohio and PA May 31, 1985: Take note of the clouds over PA and NY ahead of the actual thunderstorms and compare them to what Stevens points to at about the 3:20 mark in his video about Moore OK in 2013.

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/cle/office/localinterest/1985Tornado/1985Tornado.php

The "waves" and "ripples" are present in satellite images from a tornado outbreak in 1985 and in 2013 (a bunch of others too). HAARP or waves forming along the boundary between two layers of air of different densities moving with different velocities?

HAARP wasn't around in 1985? No. What are the waves then, Scott Stevens, if not natural and what was causing them in 1985?

HAARP was probably around before 1985. Usually before the public is informed about it, the military has kept it under wraps for years. Even Zbigniew Brezenski wrote about weather modification in 1969 in his book Between 2 Ages.


In the 70s, former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote in his book Between Two Ages: Technology will make available, to the leaders of major nations, techniques for conducting secret warfare, of which only a bare minimum of the security forces need be appraised.[T]echniques of weather modification could be employed to produce prolonged periods of drought or storm. In the early 80s, Marc Filterman, a former French military officer, too referred to the weather war for which the US and the Soviet Union had acquired the know-how to bring about sudden climatic changes like hurricanes, droughts and floods.
HAARP (an abbreviation for High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Programme) is the outcome of 50 years of research that started in 40s which was later bought by the US in the 90s.

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-n...lish-online/columns/26-Oct-2010/Weather-A-WMD

That video is neat, reminds me of a wave breaking at the beach.

 

[Jay Reynolds]

I'm just wondering. Where you live, do you see those puffy cauliflower type looking clouds up in the skies? Do you live in a drought stricken area? I use to see them where I live but not no more. All I see are those spidery cotton candy looking clouds. A couple weeks ago I saw some puffy cauliflower clouds and took some pictures of them because they are a rare occurrence around where I live now. A friend of mine had driven to North Carolina from Texas and saw big puffy cauliflower clouds away from the area where we live & took pictures because she never sees them anymore either.

Just go out more during the afternoon. The cumulus clouds come out more as daytime heating causes warmed air to rise.

 

[muttkat]

The "waves" and "ripples" are present in satellite images from a tornado outbreak in 1985 and in 2013 (a bunch of others too). HAARP or waves forming along the boundary between two layers of air of different densities moving with different velocities?

HAARP wasn't around in 1985? No. What are the waves then, Scott Stevens, if not natural and what was causing them in 1985?

Heres HAARP at play:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/sun-s-magnetic-field--is-about-to-flip---warns-nasa-131005894.html#Mrl8k49

Just kidding.

This is just kinda an observation. Being the military likes to play God with weather modification which I think they do, I've observed this: When certain nations are on the S___ List they get destructive weather results. Not saying they weren't going o get them anyway. I was reading Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather by 2025 & they mention Venezuela...drug dealers....and using the weather warfare. So i figured, let me guess some bad weather event is gonna happen in Venezuela. Within a year or so they get hit with torrential rains killing 10's of 1000's.

The 1999 Vargas tragedy was a disaster that struck the Vargas State of Venezuela on 15 December 1999, when the torrential rains and the flash floods and debris flows that followed on 14–16 December killed tens of thousands of people, destroyed thousands of homes, and led to the complete collapse of the state's infrastructure. According to relief workers, the neighborhood of Los Corales was buried under 3 metres (9.8 ft) of mud[citation needed] and a high percentage of homes were simply swept away to the ocean. Whole towns like Cerro Grande and Carmen de Uria completely disappeared

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vargas_tragedy

Then theres Japan. They were going to sell Iran non weapons type uranium and they get hit with their earthquakes and tsunami's and I think the sell got blown off. Then I find this article about HAARP:

http://www.technologyreview.com/vie...ve-japan-heated-rapidly-before-m9-earthquake/

Iran accuses US of Drought:

http://www.infowars.com/iran-accuses-u-s-of-using-weather-weapons/

Now I'm waiting for North Korea to get hit with something.

 

[muttkat]

The "waves" and "ripples" are present in satellite images from a tornado outbreak in 1985 and in 2013 (a bunch of others too). HAARP or waves forming along the boundary between two layers of air of different densities moving with different velocities?

HAARP wasn't around in 1985? No. What are the waves then, Scott Stevens, if not natural and what was causing them in 1985?

Heres HAARP at play:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/sun-s-magnetic-field--is-about-to-flip---warns-nasa-131005894.html#Mrl8k49

Just kidding.

This is just kinda an observation. Being the military likes to play God with weather modification which I think they do, I've observed this: When certain nations are on the S___ List they get destructive weather results. Not saying they weren't going o get them anyway. I was reading Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather by 2025 & they mention Venezuela...drug dealers....and using the weather warfare. So i figured, let me guess some bad weather event is gonna happen in Venezuela. Within a year or so they get hit with torrential rains killing 10's of 1000's.

The 1999 Vargas tragedy was a disaster that struck the Vargas State of Venezuela on 15 December 1999, when the torrential rains and the flash floods and debris flows that followed on 14–16 December killed tens of thousands of people, destroyed thousands of homes, and led to the complete collapse of the state's infrastructure. According to relief workers, the neighborhood of Los Corales was buried under 3 metres (9.8 ft) of mud[citation needed] and a high percentage of homes were simply swept away to the ocean. Whole towns like Cerro Grande and Carmen de Uria completely disappeared

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vargas_tragedy

Then theres Japan. They were going to sell Iran non weapons type uranium and they get hit with their earthquakes and tsunami's and I think the sell got blown off. Then I find this article about HAARP:

http://www.technologyreview.com/vie...ve-japan-heated-rapidly-before-m9-earthquake/

Iran accuses US of Drought:

http://www.infowars.com/iran-accuses-u-s-of-using-weather-weapons/

Now I'm waiting for North Korea to get hit with something.

Just go out more during the afternoon. The cumulus clouds come out more as daytime heating causes warmed air to rise.

I actually saw that Sunday. I'm trying to upload some personal pics and are having issues so I'l have to come back on those.

 

[MikeC]

How many of the dead Venezuelans were drug dealers?

 

[Cairenn]

HAARP was not around in the 1980s. Just because something was talked about that doesn't mean it ever happened. Many folks expected us to have flying cars by now.

We now know how little we really know about the weather. Sea temperatures are an important factor, that was not known in the 80s. They were beginning to think that they did.

Work on the HAARP Station began in 1993. The current working IRI was completed in 2007, and its prime contractor was BAE Systems Advanced Technologies.[1] As of 2008, HAARP had incurred around $250 million in tax-funded construction and operating costs.

Debris flow and landslide disasters have recently occurred elsewhere in Venezuela. On September 9, 1987, the Río Limón drainage, located in the State of Aragua approximately 100 km west of Caracas, was impacted by heavy rainfall. A measured 174 mm of rain fell in less than 5 hours, triggering shallow landslides that quickly transformed into debris flows. About 20,000 people who were returning from a weekend at the beach were isolated by the debris flows that damaged or destroyed approximately 1500 homes, 500 cars, three bridges, and 25 km of roads. About 210 people were killed, 400 injured, and more than 30,000 temporarily isolated by the event (Audemard et al., 1989; Schuster et al., in press). Landslides also regularly pose problems in low-income "barrios" of Caracas where the potential for property damage is generally low, but loss of life is high, and in higher-income areas where property damage can be high, but loss of life is low (Schuster et al., in press). ...

Prehistoric flood/debris-flow deposits were exposed along channel banks in most of the observed watersheds. The dimensions of large boulders in these prehistoric deposits as well as the deposit thickness were recorded (Appendix B). The sizes of boulders and thicknesses of prehistoric deposits are at least as large as those of December 1999 and in several areas, greater, indicating that the December 1999 event was not necessarily the largest event to have occurred in this region.

The age of previous events and the average recurrence of flood/debris flow events in the Quebrada San Julián and other drainages is important for rebuilding and mitigation considerations. Aerial photo interpretation and field examinations indicate that prehistoric and historical debris-flow deposits cover much of the Caraballeda fan with thickness and size of boulders comparable to the 1999 event (Plate 2). Although a flooding/debris-flow event occurred in 1951 on this fan, the extent of this event evident in aerial photographs (MARN, 1999) was minor in comparison to the 1999 event. Since 1951, extensive development has occurred on this fan, and is reflected in the magnitude of loss of life and property in 1999.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0144/

 

[Landru]

I'm torked about the no flying cars.

 

[Cairenn]

One such effort was led by a mathematician named Olaf Helmer, who worked for the RAND Corporation. In the 1960s, Helmer helped developed what he called the "Delphi method" of forecasting: Panels of esteemed scientists and other experts were convened; predictions about future developments were made; that information was shared and discussed by the panel; more predictions were made. After a number of rounds like this, it was hoped, the panels would reach a consensus which represented their distilled wisdom.

Helmer conducted many Delphi exercises. His grandest was a mid-1960s look ahead at the year 2000, with a special focus on science and technology.

In the Year 2000 it is "virtually certain" that:


The world population will be over 5 billion.

The rate of population increase will have begun to decelerate, due to the widespread acceptance of cheap and effective means of fertility control.

Absolute food production will be substantially higher than it is today, aided primarily by large-scale desalination of sea water.

The world GNP will be more than 3 times and possibly 4 times what it is today, resulting probably in an approximate doubling and possibly in a tripling of per-capita GNP.

People will largely live in urban complexes, surrounded by numerous automata. In particular, there will be central credit data banks and libraries with fully automated access, a credit card economy in which cash transactions will be virtually eliminated, highly sophisticated teaching machines will be in wide use, portable video telephones will facilitate communication among persons everywhere, and this process will be further enhanced by the availability of automated translation from one language to another.

Personality-affecting drugs will be as widely used and accepted as alcoholic beverages are today.

The life span of people will be extended through the common practice of replacing worn or diseased organs by implanting artificial plastic and electronic organs.

A permanent colony will exist on the Moon, and men will almost certainly have landed on Mars.


In the Year 2000, the following are "very probable":

Controlled thermonuclear power will be economically competitive with other sources of power.

It will be possible to control the weather regionally to a large extent.


Ocean mining on a large scale will be in progress.

Artificial life will have been created in a test tube.

Immunization against all bacterial and viral diseases will be available.

Highly intelligent machines will exist that will act as effective collaborators of scientists and engineers.

In the Year 2000, the following "have a good chance" of being reality:

Large-scale ocean farming will be practiced.

Our highway transportation system will be fully automated.

Cooperation between man and machine may have progressed to the point of actual symbiosis, in the sense of enabling man to extend his intelligence by direct electromechanical interaction between his brain and a computing machine.

We may have learned, through molecular engineering, to control hereditary defects in man, to control the aging process, and to induce the artificial growth of new limbs and organs. We may also have drugs available that raise a person's level of intelligence.

In space, we may be mining ores and manufacturing propellents on the Moon, we may have established a permanent Mars base, and we may have landed on Jupiter's moons.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/dangardner/2011/04/04/the-experts-predict-the-year-2000-and-2100/

 

[FreiZeitGeist]

Then theres Japan. They were going to sell Iran non weapons type uranium and they get hit with their earthquakes and tsunami's and I think the sell got blown off. Then I find this article about HAARP:

http://www.technologyreview.com/vie...ve-japan-heated-rapidly-before-m9-earthquake/

Iran accuses US of Drought:

http://www.infowars.com/iran-accuses-u-s-of-using-weather-weapons/

Now I'm waiting for North Korea to get hit with something.

These "Haarp makes Earthquakes"-Claim are Bullshit.

Everytime a big Earthquake happened, the Conspiracy-Freaks went to the Website of HAARP and looked to the magnetometer-Graph there. "Bingo! exactly as the Earthquake happened, there are some changings in the Graph on the Haarp-Website!!! Haarp has done it!"

...But the Conspirancy-Believers are just confusing cause and effect here!

The Magnetometer on the Haarp-WEbsite doesn´t display the "Haarp-Activity", A Magnetometer measures magnetic fields and the Magnetometer at Haarp measured the Magnetic field of the Earth.

The Magnetic field of our Planet is created by the Earth-core. Hot liquid Metals rotating there through convection and this results in a kind of "Dynamo"-Effect and thats creating the Earths magnetic field.

An earthquake generates seismic waves, seismic waves can run through the whole planet. This is the reason why large earthquakes can be measured even on the opposite places on Earth

These seismic waves go also through the Earth's core - where the Earth's magnetic field is produced. So any big earthquake has short-term effects on the Earth's magnetic field, and these effects can be detected by every magnetometer here on Earth - not only the magnetometer on the HAARP website

It´s so easy. The "Haarp-Making-Eartquakes"-People just didn´t understand what a Magnetometer really does...

Reality:

Earthquakes are influencing the Earth-core.
This results in changins of the Earths magnetic field.
And the Magnetometer on Haarp detected this changes.

Consiracy-Thinking:

HAARP DID IT AGAIN!!!
See how the Haarp-Activity peaked as the Earthquake happened!

By the way:

Haarp is closed since May 2013, due to some contract Problems. If it will be get in use again is unknown. The Director of this research-Program is optimistic, but that´s part of his job to be optimistic for HIS future

Here is a really good article about Haarp, what it was doing and and what it can´t do:
http://www.gizmag.com/haarp-operations-on-hold/28383/

And here is an article about how busy HAARP really was. They have not much to do:

Prior to 2003, the array was operated four to six, 10-day campaigns per year. Since 2007, the number has increased to about 12 per year.

Source: Subline of the second picture presented here: http://www.kirtland.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123215732




(I want a Job on the HAARP-Facility!
12 Campaigns running 10 days. That means, that i´ve only 120 days per year go to work!!!)

 

[MikeC]

AFAIK HAARP was not online when the earthquakes hit central New Zealand a couple of weeks ago - I wonder how they explain that??

 

[scombrid]

HAARP was probably around before 1985. Usually before the public is informed about it, the military has kept it under wraps for years.

No it wasn't. Nor was the NEXRAD system of weather radars that conspiracy clergy like Micheal Janitch and Scott Stevens associate with HAARP and HAARP like devices. The clouds types that these people blame on HAARP have been around as long as people have been looking at the sky and my post was just to demonstrate that what Stevens was calling new, unnatural, and unusual in May 2013 occurred in May 1985 in a different part of the country but under very similar synoptic weather pattern.

It didn't take me long to find that image either because of my knowledge of basic meteorology and the cloud types that are associated with the weather pattern that favors supercell thunderstorms. Stevens claims extensive knowledge of meteorology and played a weatherman on TV for a spell. He should also know that those cloud types are quite common in association with certain types of spring time frontal systems.

Even Zbigniew Brezenski wrote about weather modification in 1969 in his book Between 2 Ages.

People can dream. How long was 20k Leagues Under the Sea written before we put a submersible on the bottom of a deep trench? I'm still waiting for the flying cars from The Jetsons.

Where you live, do you see those puffy cauliflower type looking clouds up in the skies?

Diurnal cumulus field developes pretty much every day here during the wet season. More in wet years. Less in drought years. Condition is driven by low level humidity and the upper level temps. Deep high pressure causes subsidence that suppresse the formation of such clouds and cuts down on the coverage of diurnal t-showers. Most days here it is clear (or there are high clouds like the cirrus field present this morning) at daybreak and by 10AM-12PM there will be an extensive field of puffy clouds as solar heating of the surface begins to initiate convective mixing of the surface layer.

 

[Dog Rescuer]

Oh. Well that's different. He was fired in 1995 for claiming to be a scientist. So creating stories about all of us being poisoned is his response to being unemployable as a TV weatherman?

 

[Mick West]

Oh. Well that's different. He was fired in 1995 for claiming to be a scientist. So creating stories about all of us being poisoned is his response to being unemployable as a TV weatherman?

No. The point about him being fire is that he's not actually a fully qualified meteorologist, which some people say he is. It's a fairly minor point.

He genuinely believes in the things he says. He's not deliberately making them up, just wrong.

 

[Jay Reynolds]

This video describes an exchange between Stevens and a guy asking for an explanation about photos of old persistent contrails.

Stevens moved the goalposts back in time and space to explain that old photos don't show contrails at all, but rather 50 year old examples of chemtrails technology learned from Grey aliens who worked with the Nazis.



Stevens also asserts that total biosphere collapse and planetary depopulation by alien beings is nearly completed and is the intent of chemtrails.

 

[Balance]

I wonder how Scott (and others that believe these depopulation theories) feel about it's "success rate" given the timescale of 60-odd years?

 

[Mick West]

This video describes an exchange between Stevens and a guy asking for an explanation about photos of old persistent contrails.

Stevens moved the goalposts back in time and space to explain that old photos don't show contrails at all, but rather 50 year old examples of chemtrails technology learned from Grey aliens who worked with the Nazis.



Stevens also asserts that total biosphere collapse and planetary depopulation by alien beings is nearly completed and is the intent of chemtrails.

Easier just to watch Scott's original video. That other guy just rambles on.


This would be a good video to show to people who think the trails did not exist in old photos, as Scott is generally well regarded in the chemtrail community.

 

[Jay Reynolds]

This would be a good video to show to people who think the trails did not exist in old photos, as Scott is generally well regarded in the chemtrail community.

In debate with any of the leadership, it might be a cogent question to ask them if they agree or not with Stevens on this.