Another sun path claim

Here this flat earther claims to have have a problem with globe earth predictions of the Autumnal equiox at 44 degrees north
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEpdIfmTYNc&list=PL50VqWgr-XoHrDLXHQ_Y-uGYh2RKLnBpq&index=34

Heres his angle at 8.00 clock on September the 24th he says he got 80 degrees from northScreenshot 2020-04-24 at 12.21.00 PM.png


This was what his compass showed him later that day


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Then he compared results with stellarium
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He says this shows the sun south of east




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And here he sarcastically says if this looks 50 degrees from west like his observation.

So whats going on is he point the compass in the wrong way is stellarium glitched.?
 

Z.W. Wolf

Senior Member.
Let's think about this: Given the number of people who use it, and what they use it for, it's not credible that Stellarium is wrong. People would notice.

It's much more credible that this random guy is wrong. What could contribute to his error?

Hardware:
-How good is this compass app? They vary in quality.
-How good is his phone's magnetometer?
-Did he calibrate the phone app correctly?
-Is there an electrical field or metal object interfering?

The way he is using it:
-I don't much care for the way he's holding it. Not really getting a proper sight on the direction.
-THE CRUNCHER - The app is quite clearly displaying the words "magnetic heading"; which implies that there's a "corrected heading" setting; or there is no corrected heading setting, or he has not set up the app properly for the corrected heading setting to work. It's a warning that this is not a true bearing.

It's evident that this guy has never heard of:

----->Magnetic Declination<------


Here's an opportunity to educate yourself about the subject, and you'll be way ahead of the game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_declination
Magnetic declination, or magnetic variation, is the angle on the horizontal plane between magnetic north (the direction the north end of a magnetized compass needle points, corresponding to the direction of the Earth's magnetic field lines) and true north (the direction along a meridian towards the geographic North Pole). This angle varies depending on position on the Earth's surface and changes over time.
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http://www.compassdude.com/compass-declination.php
Man, you thought latitude and longitude was rough, just check out this declination stuff!
I'm sorry to be the one to tell you that your compass doesn't work quite right. It doesn't really point to the north pole or the south pole.
Not only that, next year it will point someplace different than it does this year! And, someday it may be completely backwards!

Two North Poles

There are actually two north poles - the Geographic north pole which is the axis around which the earth spins, and the Magnetic north pole which is where compass needles point.
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Homework assignment for you: Correct his compass bearing to true bearing.

You said he's in Oregon.
 
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Mechanik

Active Member
@jumboseafood, I'm going to give you a clue, but seriously, this information is easily found with a Google search. Paste "what is the current magnetic declination for portland, OR' into Google and it will tell you 15.15 degrees. Portland is a little north of his position, but the difference in magnetic declination is trivial at that distance; far less than a degree.

Debunk claims like this with a number of different Google queries until you find something that makes sense to you.
 
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