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  1. TemplarJLS

    TemplarJLS Member

    "If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels. -Prince Phillip

    "A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal."
    Ted Turner"

    In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it."
    J. Cousteau, 1991 explorer and UNESCO courier

    "We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren't enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage."
    Mikhail Gorbachev

    "World population needs to be decreased by 50%"
    Henry Kissinger

    "Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."
    David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club

    Bill Gates quotes are on the video in the link (I don't know how to embed)

  2. WeedWhacker

    WeedWhacker Senior Member

    OK...thanks for finding those (questionable origin) "quotes".

    Keep going...please debunk them. That is rather the point, here. It's not about just "asking" others to do it.
    I'd suggest taking a little time and research, on your own, to fully grasp the truth (or falsehoods) that may
    underlie these alleged "quotes".

    One thread per quote, would be my recommendation......
  3. TemplarJLS

    TemplarJLS Member

    Ok, but I keep getting hit with a flurry of Conspiracy sites, and no reliable sources.
  4. Pete Tar

    Pete Tar Moderator Staff Member

    And if they really said that, then there's no debunk.
    The David Brower quote seems to originate from a 1990 book by Dixie Lee Ray, Trashing The Planet.
  5. TemplarJLS

    TemplarJLS Member

    Is David Brower Quote-Mined in that book?
  6. David Fraser

    David Fraser Senior Member

  7. Trailblazer

    Trailblazer Moderator Staff Member

    David Brower does seem to have had a bee in his bonnet about overpopulation.


    He had four children, by the way.
  8. Trigger Hippie

    Trigger Hippie Senior Member

    Many conspiracy sites have this quoted attributed to an Audubon Magazine interview from 2006.


    Searching the Audubon site yields nothing for me, nor is there any mention of Ted Turner in the index of any of the 2006 (on-line) issues.
  9. Trailblazer

    Trailblazer Moderator Staff Member

    This gives the source of the Ted Turner quote as "Power & Money" by Don McAlvany, Fall 1997, p6.

    http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=A6VI8-vqpTkC&pg=PA47&dq=ted turner A total world population of 250-300 million&hl=en&sa=X&ei=fptSVPL2F8POsQSXvIK4CA&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=ted turner A total world population of 250-300 million&f=false

    I can't find any reference to that source - if you Google it you only get references to this same quote - but this seems to be the same Don McAlvany:


    He sells books on the "New World Order" and "persecution of Christians in America", so I think we can gauge his mindset: https://mcalvanyintelligenceadvisor.com/Product
  10. Pete Tar

    Pete Tar Moderator Staff Member

    There might be a reference for it if any one can find a copy. Quote-mined as in taken out of context? Probably not, could be a thing he said. Just where and when is still not determined.
  11. Trailblazer

    Trailblazer Moderator Staff Member

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  12. Pete Tar

    Pete Tar Moderator Staff Member

    That seems to show it's paraphrased from something larger.
  13. Trailblazer

    Trailblazer Moderator Staff Member

    This is the only reference to Brower in the bibliography of that book:


    Searching for key words from that quote in "The Coercive Utopians" suggests it is not from that.
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  14. NoParty

    NoParty Senior Member

    The beauty part is that the massive depopulation shall be led by
    the same incompetent morons who get a total "fail" for keeping the
    massive depopulation plan secret...by revealing it in books and such.
    "First rule of Wholesale Slaughter Club: Don't talk about Wholesale Slaughter Club!"
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  15. LouV

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  16. Efftup

    Efftup Senior Member

    Yes, I think a lot of people are genuinely concerned with overpopulation, and most of these quotes simply reflect that.
    none of them REALLY seem to be saying we should and will deliberately kill off populations.
    If they can stem people having babies faster than the people are dying then the population will go down, even if it's relatively slow at first.

    I remember being told in biology lessons at school that in India people used to have loads of kids cos a good proportion would die young. once the health system got better, people were still having lots of kids so that to decrease the population they were offering a free vasectomy and throwing in a transistor radio as a sweetener.
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  17. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    Please keep it to one quote per thread. Thank you.
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