Kristen Meghan, former US Air Force whistle-blower?

[JRBids]

Svart and Mark - I think what you are talking around is the concept of certainty.

My understanding of human psychology (which is mostly of ht "pop" variety) is that we all crave certainty - it is easier to handle anything if we actually think we know what is causing it!

So people who already think something is wrong will actually welcome a theory that explains it to them - if they already think hte Govt is evil then chemtrails explains it and is preferable to "not knowing".

The old devil you know is better than the devil you don't know.

 

[George B]

Mankind hates the unknown . . . we hate barriers of all types . . . if the barrier is the ground we dig a hole, if it is the water we build a submarine, if it is the sky we build aircraft . . . limitations drive us insane . . . we have to KNOW . . . so when we don't KNOW we allow our imaginations to go wild . . . we many times build fantasies and make wild speculations . . . Me thinks the Chemtrail Conspiracy is fueled by similar forces. . . That is, we know the world is teetering on the edge of disaster and governments have been vastly ineffective in stopping our march to self destruction . . . so some one or some thing has to be responsible . . . it is THEM . . . not US . . . and every unknown bad thing can be explained by this one single unifying dot connector . . . it explains how the weather is not what I expect, it explains my allergies and skin rashes, my rotting tomatoes, my dying fruit trees, my intestinal distress, my mood swings, the massive bird deaths, the earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, and my stupid relatives and increased crime rates . . . it is the perfect scapegoat . . .

 

[Jay Reynolds]

When you tell people what they want to hear, you'll do fine. For a while they probably won't realize you aren't delivering any goods. If she remains in a controlled environment she can make it last longer. It only takes a small voice to mention the elephant in the room (lack of anything solid) and her gambit will fall apart.

She says the 3592's have shop destinations on them, all she has to do is name the shop then.

She says she was threatened in writing. Name who wrote it.

She says vague chemical names, list them.

She's blowing the whistle but nothing of substance is coming out!!

 

[Pete Tar]

Being threatened is believable given the culture of the military and that she was exposing some bad practices and embarrassing someone, being threatened because she has exposed supposed chemtrail activity is not.

 

[Jay Reynolds]

Being threatened is believable given the culture of the military and that she was exposing some bad practices and embarrassing someone, being threatened because she has exposed supposed chemtrail activity is not.

Not believable from someone whose stories change over time. If anyone received a threat in writing, it would be saved. It would be a meal ticket far superior to tales about chemtrails. She would be a contender. All she has to do is name names, give dates, etc. None of these "whistleblowers" do that.

It's chump bait, the Pledge and Turn, waiting for an audience to gather. Few are asking to see the the Prestige......yet.

 

[George B]

Being threatened is believable given the culture of the military and that she was exposing some bad practices and embarrassing someone, being threatened because she has exposed supposed chemtrail activity is not.

My guess . . . The "implied" threat/s was possibly from the Union at Warner Robins . . . they feared the loss of jobs caused by her aggressive approach regarding the contaminated work place . . . I received them myself when I fired an employee for cause at a different facility . . . another possibility could be her interpretation of any written issues surrounding the temporary cessation of testing or surveillance she was involved in . . .

 

[TWCobra]

Going back over this thread (oh for an eidetic memory) it seems pretty clear that Kristen's story has indeed changed and changed dramatically.

My take on it is that there is very little interest in the wide world about whistleblowing the USAF on obscure OSHA grounds, but there may be a buck to be made by altering the story to be whistle blowing on chemtrails.

Lets look at the evidence from the horses mouth.

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/kristen-meghan-former-us-air-force-whistle-blower.1066/#post-24760

Are you all aware of the US Patents that admit geoengineering and weather modification?

Belief in chemtrails established.

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/kristen-meghan-former-us-air-force-whistle-blower.1066/#post-24779

Chemtrails involve the deliberate spraying of hazardous materials into the atmosphere that goes back over 30 years. Also known as cloud seeding, the U.S. Government has been spraying harmful chemicals and heavy metals into the atmosphere for numerous reasons.

Believes cloud seeding is chemtrails., Carnicom is an expert, Agenda 21, NWO and Michael Murphy is an authoritative source.

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/kristen-meghan-former-us-air-force-whistle-blower.1066/#post-24786

It was a long story involving the AF trying to cover up carcinogenic exposures. Seeing how I was the one who conducted the sampling and found this serious overexposure, I was then demonized and not allowed to share the results with employees, which is illegal. To summarize, I was threatened to be deemed "mentally unfit" and my daughter removed from me. There are news clips out there about it, I may have one on my FB video section... it was from almost 3 years ago.

First mention of being demonized and the reason for that. Chemtrails not mention but OSHA issues cited.

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/kr...r-force-whistle-blower.1066/page-2#post-24795

I'm not sure why you say chemtrails are debunked they are completely real and have been around for years. Yes, I am a USAF whistleblower I mentioned the details in a different reply somewhere on this thread. The information is in front of our faces and the EPA knows it is going on but turns their head to it.

- Whistleblowing mentioned regarding previous post ie. OSHA issues.

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/kr...r-force-whistle-blower.1066/page-2#post-24804

My whistleblowing is not related to chemtrails, it is related to industrial ground activities that overexposed the workers and they didn't want it reported, and since I took the samples, they wanted to demonize me in case I spoke out.
It is going through what I did as a whistleblower than led to my activism. Chemtrails and the TSA are my biggest topics I am linked to

-First of several direct references to what she is whistleblowing about. Also referenced by others, including Nate Kelly, her boyfriend at the time.

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/kr...r-force-whistle-blower.1066/page-2#post-24807

Mick, the confusion lies with people who aren't familiar with my activism, my whistleblower label is not related to chemtrails. I'm been doing media for a while and chemtrails is just one item I discuss. When I do shows they introduce me as a whistleblower but the topic I discuss that day isn't why I was a AF whistleblower. What I have brought to the table about chemtrails is that I personally saw the processes going on at Tinker AFB. I've never said anything more than that, nor embellished on any of that data. I did samples and I still take samples here in Chicago for a study I am doing. In this interview below, you can see I contribute to media for differnct reasons. I don't know if you have heard of Adam Kokesh, Danny Panzella, or Gary Franchi... these are people who also do this and I look up to them.

- Clarification of the link between whistleblowing and chemtrails. None.

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/kr...r-force-whistle-blower.1066/page-2#post-24808

Jay, I wasn't a whistleblower in regards to chemtrails. It was a completely different situation about overexposures to carcinogens on base they wanted to keep quiet.

-reiteration of above.

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/kr...r-force-whistle-blower.1066/page-3#post-25280

Many of you have gone off into dead end paths, there are so many assumptions I don't even know where to begin. My bring a whistleblower has nothing to do with anything at Tinker AFB, that was just one place I was stationed.

- Nothing to do with Tinker AFB Final post on Metabunk. Jan 30 2013. Slightly over a year ago.

Lets fast forward a year and listen to her speaking at long Island.



10.54: regarding orders of large quantities of "hazardous materials" quote "I had already accounted for that" Was accounting for the amount of materials being used part of her job?

11.55: Refusing to approve materials till she was told what they were for.

"At that point, my demonization began"

12.15 Being moved to other ALC Warner-Robins. Direct contradiction of previous quote about Tinker AFB ie no issues.

13:20 Repeat of allegations regarding mental health and daughter being removed, this time in response to her questions about "chemtrail chemicals". Direct contradiction of her claim it was on unrelated OSHA issues.

It seems pretty clear that OSHA issues aren't sexy, or likely to provide an income, but chemtrails just may. What is remarkable is that no-one is calling her out on the "contradictions" or the gradually morphing story.

 

[Trigger Hippie]

"What I have brought to the table about chemtrails is that I personally saw the processes going on at Tinker AFB" --KM

This is the part she never explained.

 

[Hama Neggs]

Somewhere in one of these she says that she personally saw people "loading the cannisters" for chemtrail spraying. No details on that, of course.

 

[George B]

Somewhere in one of these she says that she personally saw people "loading the cannisters" for chemtrail spraying. No details on that, of course.

I think she said someone "told/emailed" her they loaded or saw them loaded . . . total hearsay . . .

 

[Balance]

I was threatened to be deemed "mentally unfit" and my daughter removed from me. There are news clips out there about it, I may have one on my FB video section... it was from almost 3 years ago.

(With sympathy) Given Kristen has openly told the world she's a rape and PTSD victim...

The above quoted claim plays on my mind more than any other. I'm extremely interested to know more details of this.

 

[Hama Neggs]

I think she said someone "told/emailed" her they loaded or saw them loaded . . . total hearsay . . .

No, I think SHE said she saw it. I'll try to find it sometime. Her story is evolving.

 

[Hama Neggs]

"It was a long story involving the AF trying to cover up carcinogenic exposures. Seeing how I was the one who conducted the sampling and found this serious overexposure, I was then demonized and not allowed to share the results with employees, which is illegal. To summarize, I was threatened to be deemed "mentally unfit" and my daughter removed from me. There are news clips out there about it, I may have one on my FB video section... it was from almost 3 years ago."

And yet it seems she can't be bothered to have those supposed news clips at hand to support her story.

 

[Trigger Hippie]

And yet it seems she can't be bothered to have those supposed news clips at hand to support her story.

Odd, the evidence of carcinogens that she took from the AFB are somewhere in her house. There is a pattern emerging here.

The samples I took were a few years ago, I have them some where in my house along with the air sampling that led to the whistleblowing issue. Post #33

 

[George B]

(With sympathy) Given Kristen has openly told the world she's a rape and PTSD victim...

The above quoted claim plays on my mind more than any other. I'm extremely interested to know more details of this.

I am sure if she is suffering from PTSD . . . it could explain, coupled with her less than good departure from the Air Force, a psychological need to get even with the institution that betrayed her trust . . . it is not hard to connect the dots of distrust and deceit when you have been injured by the institution you dedicated years of your career in and which "In Your Opinion" threatened your family by implying your psychological instability . . . I might have done the same thing she is doing . . .

 

[Trigger Hippie]

(With sympathy) Given Kristen has openly told the world she's a rape and PTSD victim...

The above quoted claim plays on my mind more than any other. I'm extremely interested to know more details of this.

My interest in Kristen starts and ends with her claims relating to chemtrails. I have no interest in her personal affairs.

 

[George B]

My interest in Kristen starts and ends with her claims relating to chemtrails. I have no interest in personal affairs.

Of course . . . however, some insight into her motives and psychology may allow a more efficient way to debunk her story . . . assuming we are correct, her emotions are a very important fuel for her reality and any debunk that does not take that into account will be ignored completely . . .

 

[Jay Reynolds]

I asked Kristen this:

Kristen,
As a person who should know a thing or two about science, if you had 15 minutes in front of Congress to show them the most incontrovertible evidence for chemtrails, what would it be? Real evidence.
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/kr...r-force-whistle-blower.1066/page-2#post-24801

I'd bring EPA personnel that acknowledge it, that I met at an OSHA training institute and by way of being inspected by one. I'd also show them all the analytical samples ran accross the country and ask them to explain to me why such constituents on are the ground and I'd bring up the patents and all their own data pulished.

So, if her last statement was true, she could name names of these EPA personnel and the time and place of the OSHA training institute where she met them,
and cite the samples she says she has.

 

[Trigger Hippie]

Of course . . . however, some insight into her motives and psychology may allow a more efficient way to debunk her story

Her story is bunk because she has not presented any evidence to back her claims. I don't believe playtime amateur psychoanalysis offers any insight.

 

[Jay Reynolds]

After asking her for substantive evidence above, Kristen had no further response for 4 days.

After the 4 days to think about it, his was her last posting here at Metabunk:

Many of you have gone off into dead end paths, there are so many assumptions I don't even know where to begin. My bring a whistleblower has nothing to do with anything at Tinker AFB, that was just one place I was stationed. I feel like I do a video reply to this thread because I'm worn out reading how far of things have gotten.
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/kr...r-force-whistle-blower.1066/page-3#post-25280

 

[Hama Neggs]

Truth is, she has nothing that any other chemtrail believer doesn't have.

 

[Jay Reynolds]

Yes, TWcobra, very contradictory:

Jay, I wasn't a whistleblower in regards to chemtrails. It was a completely different situation about overexposures to carcinogens on base they wanted to keep quiet.

What I have brought to the table about chemtrails is that I personally saw the processes going on at Tinker AFB.

My bring a whistleblower has nothing to do with anything at Tinker AFB, that was just one place I was stationed.

 

[George B]

Her story is bunk because she has not presented any evidence to back her claims. I don't believe playtime amateur psychoanalysis offers any insight.

It depends on your goal . . .

1) are you debunking her story to satisfy a few other debunkers that she is wrong. . . . or

2) are you trying to convince fence sitters and Chemtrail believers she is wrong . . .

The approach may well be different in the two groups above . . . Me thinks Metabunk is very good in one . . . not necessarily so good in the other . . . just saying

 

[Mick West]

Her story is bunk because she has not presented any evidence to back her claims. I don't believe playtime amateur psychoanalysis offers any insight.

I agree. Speculating in public about someone's personal issues is generally not very useful in getting to the bottom of things. It's impolite - which means it provides a distraction.

Truth is, she has nothing that any other chemtrail believer doesn't have.

Except an increasingly visible platform, and inevitably fans and defenders. Defenders who will latch onto perceived personal attacks.

But yes, her utter lack of any tangible evidence, and her vague and shifting story should be the focus.

 

[Mick West]

It depends on your goal . . .

1) are you debunking her story to satisfy a few other debunkers that she is wrong. . . . or

2) are you trying to convince fence sitters and Chemtrail believers she is wrong . . .

The approach may well be different in the two groups above . . . Me thinks Metabunk is very good in one . . . not necessarily so good in the other . . . just saying

The Metabunk philosophy is that things that are perceived as impolite are counterproductive to debunking. It can be tricking determining where the line is. But recognize that people will read this thread, and they will take speculative remark out of context, and interpret them as petty attacks on Kristen. And once that impression is established it's hard to shake.

Focus on what she is saying. What she does. Don't make it personal.

 

[George B]

The Metabunk philosophy is that things that are perceived as impolite are counterproductive to debunking. It can be tricking determining where the line is. But recognize that people will read this thread, and they will take speculative remark out of context, and interpret them as petty attacks on Kristen. And once that impression is established it's hard to shake.

Focus on what she is saying. What she does. Don't make it personal.

Hmmm . . . I yield to your position but don't see acknowledging her self admitted trauma being involved in her reactions to the Air Force as impolite . . . it is fact she testified too . . and would affect almost anyone . . . I thought we were being sympathetic and not critical by doing so . . . of course anything can be taken out of context . . . enough said . . .

 

[Balance]

Her story is bunk because she has not presented any evidence to back her claims. I don't believe playtime amateur psychoanalysis offers any insight.

Fair point and I did not speculate, as you appear to have done, but I still think there could be important relative evidence in the claimed written threats she receieved which she states are based on mental health, not disciplinary action.

 

[Balance]

Re the mental health issue, I think I've got the jist (though it's obviously just my opinion). Sorry for me being so tardy as this was posted way back

Source: http://www.41nbc.com/news/local-news/933-former-rafb-bio-tester-talks-osha-citations

Kristen Meghan
• 3 years ago
Actually, what "not allowed to perform my job to the fullest" meant just what I said. If I went out of my chain of command I would have gotten paperwork, and posibly an Article 15 which would have led to an unhonorable discharge. My supervisor threatened to make the commander send me to mental health to keep me from talking! It is funny, but really not. You are not allowed free speech when you are owned by the military.

Content from External Source

She states that going outside the chain of command was, what she described as inhibiting her "doing her job to the fullest". The threat of mental-health action from her supervisor would not likely be part of the written threat she claims to have. Sorry for my confusion, carry on.

EDIT: It appears to be "lead" was found near or around a break-room, leading to the possibility of ingestion.

 

[Jay Reynolds]

Since Kristen is simply running around the country making baseless accusations, but not naming names, I will name the people she is accusing:


Now-retired Maj. Gen. Robert McMahon was commander of Warner Robbins AFB during 2010-11, the time period she was there.
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Now-retired Maj. Gen. Loren Reno was commander of Tinker AFB during 2008, the time period she was there.

Kristen, these are the responsible people you are accusing.

GeorgeB, being a retired USAF officer you have something in common with these men. Would you please contact them and see what they have to say about this matter?

 

[George B]

Since Kristen is simply running around the country making baseless accusations, but not naming names, I will name the people she is accusing:


Now-retired Maj. Gen. Robert McMahon was commander of Warner Robbins AFB during 2010-11, the time period she was there.
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Now-retired Maj. Gen. Loren Reno was commander of Tinker AFB during 2008, the time period she was there.

Kristen, these are the responsible people you are accusing.

GeorgeB, being a retired USAF officer you have something in common with these men. Would you please contact them and see what they have to say about this matter?

Jay, where did you locate
their tenure at their bases ? The individual Commanders may or may not wish to comment . . . being a commander and commission officer myself . . . I as they are still subject to the UCMJ. While I might comment on issues in general, I would not comment on specifics that were under my command. . . If there are Active Duty interests and liabilities potentially in question, they could or really should not comment unless they had consultation with Public Affairs on the facilities involved . . . Commanders are not coworkers . . . they carry their title and responsibilities forward . . . even after they have moved on to other assignments and even in retirement . . .

 

[Balance]

"So what this is an expansion of where some of those a risks had existed previously have no identified it in additional facilities. But to your specific question I can't tell you exactly a date when those issues were first identified," said Maj. Gen. Robert McMahon.

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http://www.41nbc.com/news/local-news/933-former-rafb-bio-tester-talks-osha-citations

He appears at liberty to at least comment on some aspects back then

 

[TEEJ]

No, I think SHE said she saw it. I'll try to find it sometime. Her story is evolving.

See 16:22 in the following video.

....people have come out of the woodworks. From EPA Compliance Officers to ex people that I worked with in my career field who I cannot state for obvious reasons. I've had Pilots come forward! I've had people come forward that actually load the canisters onto planes.

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From



In reference to the loading of canisters on planes it might possibly have come from details in the following video? She claims that Navy personnel have come forward in relation to E-6 Mercury TACAMO (Take Charge and Move Out) aircraft.

See from 08:37

In other career fields in the military. Oh my gosh! I get e-mails, messages all the time from people in the Navy talking about, I think it is pronounced TACAMO? aircraft they have caught doing it....

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E-6B AIRCRAFT FEATURES:
Description: Communications relay and strategic airborne command post aircraft. Provides survivable, reliable, and endurable airborne command, control, and communications between the National Command Authority (NCA) and U.S. strategic and non-strategic forces. Two squadrons, the “Ironmen” of VQ-3 and the “Shadows” of V-4 deploy more than 20 aircrews from Tinker Air Force Base, Okla. to meet these requirements.

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http://www.tacamo.navy.mil/factsheets.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TACAMO

Her reference to TACAMO is interesting as images of the E-6B Mercury fuel dumping are routinely used within the chemtrail community as aircraft types "caught spraying". Remember that Kristen while in the USAF was conducting 'research' on the internet and the TACAMO images would have been widely used on the chemtrail sites. Who knows? Either she is spinning a tale based on her 'research' or someone is hoaxing her with claims of being in the US Navy?



From

http://contrailscience.com/things-that-are-not-contrails-or-chemtrails/

 

[George B]

"So what this is an expansion of where some of those a risks had existed previously have no identified it in additional facilities. But to your specific question I can't tell you exactly a date when those issues were first identified," said Maj. Gen. Robert McMahon.

Content from External Source

http://www.41nbc.com/news/local-news/933-former-rafb-bio-tester-talks-osha-citations

He appears at liberty to at least comment on some aspects back then

Yes, a commander often is seen representing the official Air Force position and as such gets legal and Public Affairs review of significant public comments or they speak at their own peril. . . such utterances even with review has ended many careers . . . they may give factual verification of events but most likely stay far away from opinions, confidential or privacy issues especially when dealing with disciplinary, legal, local political, or labor relation issues.

 

[Balance]

It was much the same old stuff Jay. Oh, apparently someone from the EPA is going to come out and whistleblow when they retire in 9 months. I must admit I get a little confused about the whole whistleblowing thing. As I see it she reported some dodgy work practices. I have been looking but I can't see how or if they were addressed. Was there ever any legal or disciplinary actions taken? Outside of OSHA involvement was this big news? To be frank it does not seem something I would chuck my career over.

Published April 17th 2013. Just over nine months ago?

 

[Jay Reynolds]

Jay, where did you locate
their tenure at their bases ? . . .

For McMahon, the article above, for Reno, I went through her video where she states being at Tinker in 2008, and this history of events at Tinker AFB which shows Reno as the Base Commander:
http://www.tinker.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-100701-035.pdf

You see, I think that someone has induced her to add the chemtrail element to her story. Considering the current involvement the seating arrangement in LI and softball interview probably Luke Rudkowski and his ilk.

Whomever that is, like most of the chemtrail folks they have no connection to the USAF, and even though it has consistently been shown that civilian airliners are being seen, the chemtrails meme began by specifically targeting USAF tanker jets as the source of what they saw. That was easy, they were civilians and could blame the USAF as an amorphous whole.

With Kristen's emergence, she has a definite connection to an identifiable chain of command, she cannot simply say, the USAF did this or that, she is claiming something much more specific. She is accusing a specific base at a specific time of being involved in illegal activity. Within the chain of command, as General McMahon says, "The buck stops here."

So, if Kristen wants to make her accusations, fine. There are identifiable names irrevocably attached to that accusation, from her own responsibility under the UCMJ to refuse illegal orders through her immediate supervisor past the Base Commander and right up to the Commander-in-Chief of the United States itself, President Obama.

She started this, she is making the accusations. The chain of command responsibility is clear.

Her 'handlers' probably never gave that any thought, and she might think she can carry on without anyone noticing. but quite the opposite is true.
Kristen Meghan has made specific accusations about a specific base at a specific time, and those specifically responsible are easily identifiable and will ultimately be seen and heard with their side of the story.

 

[Trigger Hippie]

She is accusing a specific base at a specific time of being involved in illegal activity. Within the chain of command, as General McMahon says, "The buck stops here."

Jay, I'm at a loss here. Please forgive me for not sifting through all her video's, but I ask, what specific claims are you talking about. Has she made any?

 

[George B]

For McMahon, the article above, for Reno, I went through her video where she states being at Tinker in 2008, and this history of events at Tinker AFB which shows Reno as the Base Commander:
http://www.tinker.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-100701-035.pdf

You see, I think that someone has induced her to add the chemtrail element to her story. Considering the current involvement the seating arrangement in LI and softball interview probably Luke Rudkowski and his ilk.

Whomever that is, like most of the chemtrail folks they have no connection to the USAF, and even though it has consistently been shown that civilian airliners are being seen, the chemtrails meme began by specifically targeting USAF tanker jets as the source of what they saw. That was easy, they were civilians and could blame the USAF as an amorphous whole.

With Kristen's emergence, she has a definite connection to an identifiable chain of command, she cannot simply say, the USAF did this or that, she is claiming something much more specific. She is accusing a specific base at a specific time of being involved in illegal activity. Within the chain of command, as General McMahon says, "The buck stops here."

So, if Kristen wants to make her accusations, fine. There are identifiable names irrevocably attached to that accusation, from her own responsibility under the UCMJ to refuse illegal orders through her immediate supervisor past the Base Commander and right up to the Commander-in-Chief of the United States itself, President Obama.

She started this, she is making the accusations. The chain of command responsibility is clear.

Her 'handlers' probably never gave that any thought, and she might think she can carry on without anyone noticing. but quite the opposite is true.
Kristen Meghan has made specific accusations about a specific base at a specific time, and those specifically responsible are easily identifiable and will ultimately be seen and heard with their side of the story.

While what you say is correct . . . the Air Force is probably not interested in perusing Meghan's representations . . . they probably see her as a mite on a nat's hair on the hind leg of an elephant which is them . . . I would only think they would be interested if there was enough public interest generated by Meghan's allegations . . . any defense of their position to Meghan's public statements would elevate her importance in the eyes of her admirers and would do little to quell their beliefs the Air Force is involved in chemtrails . . .

 

[Jay Reynolds]

Jay, I'm at a loss here. Please forgive me for not sifting through all her video's, but I ask, what specific claims are you talking about. Has she made any?

Claims to have personally seen the chemtrails process going on at Tinker AFB.

What I have brought to the table about chemtrails is that I personally saw the processes going on at Tinker AFB.
I've never said anything more than that, nor embellished on any of that data. I did samples and I still take samples here in Chicago for a study I am doing.

10.54: regarding orders of large quantities of "hazardous materials" quote "I had already accounted for that" Was accounting for the amount of materials being used part of her job?

11.55: Refusing to approve materials till she was told what they were for.

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Claims to have taken documents from the USAF, and to have seen abnormal paperwork for shipments of aluminum oxide, barium, and strontium.
Claims to have seen geoengineering and chemtrails material first hand.

@ 12:40 So as I fight the hatred, and the disinformation trolls, and those who try to ruin my reputation, for every negative thing I find about myself on the internet, excuse my french but it pisses me off, and you know what, it makes me pull up some documents that I took before I left the United States Air Force, and I saved them and I publish them, [crowd begins hooting and clapping] and I send them to my family members throughout the country. And I have friends tell me, "Be Careful", you know what I tell them? Be careful, what? I was in the United States military, they have my social security number and my address and my cell phone number, they can find me.

So what I want to leave with you here today is to tell you, if you know someone who is in the military now, or you know a veteran, engage them. It's your due diligence, whether or not you agree with "conspiracy" websites like Infowars.com or Prison Planet, or whether you believe in geoengineering or chemtrails, please believe me because I saw it first-hand.

@3:45 So when I started approving what is called an Air Force Form 3952, the approval of hazardous materials, and I started seeing barium, aluminum oxide and strontium come on the base from a contractor whose name was not listed, which was not normal, I started to realize that those crazy tin-foil hat conspiracy theorists might not be so crazy.

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Claims to have found contamination at Robbins AFB air and soil, threatened, laws were being broken, people being poisoned.

@ 12:25 I started finding the same things at Robbins Air Force Base. I was now doing some more investigation work. Part of what I did was to use a high volume air sampler to sample up to about a football field in 10 minutes. I also conducted soil sampling, because I thought, if this is real and they are spraying this, it's going to get to the ground. So, I conducted air sampling and I conducted soil sampling, and I was getting high levels of these contaminates. When I started asking these questions again, under a new commander, I never in my life thought that I would have somebody look me in my face and tell me, "I am questioning you, is there something wrong with you? You've been looking really depressed lately, you know I can put you under mental evaluation for up to 120 days, who would take care of your daughter (I was divorced at the time)?

As soon as I heard that, I knew, it validated everything I ever thought, and I spent 9 years of my life trying to protect human health? And here we are, violating law after law after law. Just sitting here protecting the people, we are poisoning the people.

 

[George B]

Claims to have personally seen the chemtrails process going on at Tinker AFB.




10.54: regarding orders of large quantities of "hazardous materials" quote "I had already accounted for that" Was accounting for the amount of materials being used part of her job?

11.55: Refusing to approve materials till she was told what they were for.

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Claims to have taken documents from the USAF, and to have seen abnormal paperwork for shipments of aluminum oxide, barium, and strontium.
Claims to have seen geoengineering and chemtrails material first hand.





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Claims to have found contamination at Robbins AFB air and soil, threatened, laws were being broken, people being poisoned.

Why would air sampling or ground sampling at ground level on Warner Robins AFB or Tinker AFB substantiate chemtrailing activities? Seems one does not spray these alleged materials until you reach a minimum altitude to guarantee proper dispersal . . . why would you dose the airbases if it is harmful . . . you would eventually destroy or hinder the efficiency of your operation . . . if it were for weather modification or geoengineering how would dumping on or even near by a runway be of any benefit?

 

[Hama Neggs]

Why would air sampling or ground sampling at ground level on Warner Robins AFB or Tinker AFB substantiate chemtrailing activities? Seems one does not spray these alleged materials until you reach a minimum altitude to guarantee proper dispersal . . . why would you dose the airbases if it is harmful . . . you would eventually destroy or hinder the efficiency of your operation . . . if it were for weather modification or geoengineering how would dumping on or even near by a runway be of any benefit?

Those sorts of questions seem to be of no particular interest to Meghan or other chemtrail believers.