Nantasket Beach MA strange orbs tonight
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FatPhil
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Probably a crime going on:
-- https://www.mass.gov/doc/massachuse...ugust-26-2016-through-october-6-2016/downloadExternal Quote:
jarlrmai
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The both pose the danger of potentially starting fires..
I cannot see how a permit (under fire regulations) would work for lanterns unless the could be guaranteed to land at sea, but they should still be banned under littering laws.
But the law for the fire regs probably says you need a permit, but would likely never grant one for lanterns because of the impossible to control risk, but welding can be done safely with proper precautions.
Often they are actually 'banned' under general littering laws, but the laws are unenforced, because of the negative press of doing it to a wedding or funeral event. However I strongly believe they and balloons should have specific explicit legislation to prevent their release, so it doesn't allow for this enforcement loophole.
I cannot see how a permit (under fire regulations) would work for lanterns unless the could be guaranteed to land at sea, but they should still be banned under littering laws.
But the law for the fire regs probably says you need a permit, but would likely never grant one for lanterns because of the impossible to control risk, but welding can be done safely with proper precautions.
Often they are actually 'banned' under general littering laws, but the laws are unenforced, because of the negative press of doing it to a wedding or funeral event. However I strongly believe they and balloons should have specific explicit legislation to prevent their release, so it doesn't allow for this enforcement loophole.
That's also the sort of thing that will keep the people who release fire lanterns from documenting what they're doing on social media, making it less likely to find a match for the event.
Also see https://www.bostonherald.com/2022/0...gal-sky-lantern-started-leominster-high-fire/ where "The warning comes after investigations into an April 13 fire at Leominster High School demonstrated the potentially catastrophic blaze was started by one of the lanterns, which Ostroskey said are prohibited under Bay State law."
As well as this year in Texas: https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/mesquite-fire-lantern-cause-homes-destroyed/: "Two homes were destroyed this week after a floating lantern likely sparked a fire near Peachtree Road and Bruton Road in Mesquite, according to fire officials."
Ann K
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Fire is fire. It doesn't seem to be such an odd list when you realize this is high fire season. I'm currently deep in the band of yellow-brown smoke coming down south of Lake Erie from wildfires up in Canada, and am confined to home. Yesterday I was warned, and couldn't even go out to my mail box. I didn't realize the bathroom window was open about half an inch, and the whole bedroom smelled strongly of smoke and creosote. It's bad again today, but my windows are all tightly shut.
Over the water, if they're sure the breezes will KEEP them over the water = OK for fires. Not OK for fish.
JMartJr
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I guess the oddness to me is the difference in intent and seriousness between welding torches and sky lanterns.
The first you can require licenses and permits and whatnot, and people wil get them as people need to be able to weld safely for serious work. The second are decorative bits of frivolousness used to celebrate weddings and generate UFO reports...
It makes me wonder if some other meaning of "fire lantern" was intended, something in the "Lantern to illuminate your campsite, with a fire providing the light as opposed to LEDs" maybe...
NorCal Dave
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Maybe along a beach, but laws like this are usually addressed at those that lack any form of common sense about what they're doing, where they're doing it or what the consequences may be. Another bit of frivolousness might be the silly "baby reveal parties" that were so popular. Just a frivolous little device that goes bang and puts out blue or pink smoke/glitter/powder. Unless one does it in a dry field:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/21/couple-gender-reveal-party-wildfire-chargedExternal Quote:
Lord knows what kind of fires could be started around here with floating, drifting, unsupervised burning thingies.
Kyle Ferriter
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Massachusetts has extremely strict rules about "fireworks". It's a total ban and includes even stationary things that don't leave the ground, like firecrackers and handheld sparklers. This has been the case for 80 years and applies year round and in non-drought conditions. I think it's probably a side effect of the puritan heritage.
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter148/Section39
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter148/Section39
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