Chem/Con orbs.. no debunking these things

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OK Then. let me say first, I know there is no point of producing any type of "Chemtrail" footage as evidence as you debunkers will just scream CON-trail till the sky falls down. :p

Now, with that in mind...


What's to be said about these numerous orb sightings? birds? insects? no. that is clearly a lie when so many of these videos exist. I can give another 10-15 videos which clearly show these same objects


Please watch in 1080. There is NOTHING you can say to debunk these orbs.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gavvAg6Gnak


If you call these objects birds/lens flare you are a straight out lying shill bag. IF you guys truly aren't gov sponsored shills you would be willing to discuss these orbs. Not instantly label the footage as mere birds/lens flare etc etc


So... what exactly are these "orb" things, and what are they doing with water vapor?
 
Looks like something relatively close to the camera, and out of focus - which makes it look round.
 
"something" would most likely be one of the things commonly found in the air.

Why not? Exactly?
 
Looks like the new version of Rods to me - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_(optics) - just out of focus items in field of view.

Common things in the atmosphere are insects, birds, leaves flying around, and hats.

And as a matter of principle - most ppl here won't scream "contrails" at you - they'll ask you what your evidence is that what you show is chemtrails, or at least something other than contrails - which seems like a fairly reasonable thing to ask.
 
Looks like the new version of Rods to me - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_(optics) - just out of focus items in field of view. Common things in the atmosphere are insects, birds, leaves flying around, and hats. And as a matter of principle - most ppl here won't scream "contrails" at you - they'll ask you what your evidence is that what you show is chemtrails, or at least something other than contrails - which seems like a fairly reasonable thing to ask.
Insects eh? lol.. ok I'm going to pull up all the other videos to compare. These objects are NOT insects or out of focus... keep posting guys, you are just proving me right
 
And as a matter of principle - most ppl here won't scream "contrails" at you - they'll ask you what your evidence is that what you show is chemtrails, or at least something other than contrails - which seems like a fairly reasonable thing to ask.
Which would be the "orb" objects... which you guys keep labeling as insects/out of focus... which is COMPLETE horse shit when so many of these same objects exist. All birds/ out of focus? LOL.. just how fucking dumb do you think people are?
 
How are orb objects evidence of chemtrails?

There's plenty photos & videos around people say are of chemtrails without any orbs in them - are you saying those are not actually chemtrails and only ones with orbs in are?
 
How are orb objects evidence of chemtrails? There's plenty photos & videos around people say are of chemtrails without any orbs in them - are you saying those are not actually chemtrails and only ones with orbs in are?
... I'm saying what do these objects want with normal contrails? is it that hard to understand?
 
Which would be the "orb" objects... which you guys keep labeling as insects/out of focus... which is COMPLETE horse shit when so many of these same objects exist. All birds/ out of focus? LOL.. just how fucking dumb do you think people are?

It LOOKS like an out of focus bird. But you can't say for sure what it is.

Based on the way it moves though, it is much closer to the camera than the plane.
 
There's really a very large number of things it could be. The fact that we don't know which it is is rather irrelevant.

If you are in the forest at night and you hear a twig snap, you don't know what made the twig snap. That does not then mean it's aliens or ghosts.
 
It LOOKS like an out of focus bird. But you can't say for sure what it is. Based on the way it moves though, it is much closer to the camera than the plane.
Since when are birds that high up in the sky? LMAO.. not to mention completely white and circular Sorry, guys... i thought you would provide more of a challenge. but this is just sad
 
Because i have a pair of eyes, a brain and can actually see things...

You can't have better eyes than the camera - the guy who posted the video didn't actually see them with his eyes at all - only after looking back over the video, and in all the blown up shots all you see is a round orb - so again - HOW do you KNOW that is not something out of focus?

The poster says the object goes behind the contrail, but in fact in both the negative and positive views all you see is a merging of a single colour - white or dark - saying that it must be at he same altitude is a gross assumption.

Also the orbs actually seem to have nothing whatsoever to do with the contrail, other than being in shot - so why try to make any connection at all??
 
... I'm saying what do these objects want with normal contrails? is it that hard to understand?

I doubt these object "want" anything to do with contrails at all, because I think they are most likely just small objects in the field of view that are out of focus.
 
"HOW do you KNOW that is not something out of focus?" Because i have a pair of eyes... do you really want me to post all the other "orb" videos? I have all the time in the world... Let's compare all these objects
 
"You can't have better eyes than the camera" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODcxzRI-Jfs

This is the orb i spotted.. go on.. call it out of focus/birds LMFAO

"It is quite possible that there is a reasonable explanation for this flying object, but to date I have not found it, my best guess is that it is an incoming meteorite or space junk."
Note 1 The object is reflecting or emitting light so it is highly unlightly to be a bird or insect.
Note 2 This video was recorded @ 30 fps F5.6 - 250th sec fast enough to rule out digital tricks like RODs
Note 3 If the object was a bird or an insect it would differ in shape from frame to frame

from: algorithm21century
 
"also the orbs actually seem to have nothing whatsoever to do with the contrail, other than being in shot - so why try to make any connection at all??"

I have seen several of these orbs passing through these "contrails"... I'd say these objects have EVERYTHING to do with these CON-trails
 
If it's a bird it is flying at about Mach 5 + RODS do not exist in the real world ! they exist only in the digital world, they are the product of using slow shutter speeds to photograph birds/insects/bats in flight, this video was recorded @ 30 frames/sec F5.6 1/250th sec certainly not rod territory and fast enough to stop any bird in flight at that range. algorithm21century 1 month ago
 
"If it's a bird it is flying at about Mach 5 + RODS do not exist in the real world ! they exist only in the digital world, they are the product of using slow shutter speeds to photograph birds/insects/bats in flight, this video was recorded @ 30 frames/sec F5.6 1/250th sec certainly not rod territory and fast enough to stop any bird in flight at that range. algorithm21century 1 month ago "

Neglected to mention that the excerpt came from the video "Heaven to Hell in 4min", which is a time lapse video, compressing over 1 hour's footage into 4 minutes, which would imply that the object took at least 15 times longer to traverse the field of view.

Speaking of field of view, when travelling in a train has anyone in the CT world ever realised that near objects, ie trackside posts, signals etc., pass by very quickly while distant objects, ie a hill, distant trees or churches etc, do not?? That is really weird and unusual how that appears to happen, isn't it??
 
"If it's a bird it is flying at about Mach 5 + RODS do not exist in the real world ! they exist only in the digital world, they are the product of using slow shutter speeds to photograph birds/insects/bats in flight, this video was recorded @ 30 frames/sec F5.6 1/250th sec certainly not rod territory and fast enough to stop any bird in flight at that range. algorithm21century 1 month ago " Neglected to mention that the excerpt came from the video "Heaven to Hell in 4min", which is a time lapse video, compressing over 1 hour's footage into 4 minutes, which would imply that the object took at least 15 times longer to traverse the field of view. Speaking of field of view, when travelling in a train has anyone in the CT world ever realised that near objects, ie trackside posts, signals etc., pass by very quickly while distant objects, ie a hill, distant trees or churches etc, do not?? That is really weird and unusual how that appears to happen, isn't it??
What are you getting at?
 
"If it's a bird it is flying at about Mach 5 + RODS do not exist in the real world ! they exist only in the digital world, they are the product of using slow shutter speeds to photograph birds/insects/bats in flight, this video was recorded @ 30 frames/sec F5.6 1/250th sec certainly not rod territory and fast enough to stop any bird in flight at that range. algorithm21century 1 month ago " Neglected to mention that the excerpt came from the video "Heaven to Hell in 4min", which is a time lapse video, compressing over 1 hour's footage into 4 minutes, which would imply that the object took at least 15 times longer to traverse the field of view. Speaking of field of view, when travelling in a train has anyone in the CT world ever realised that near objects, ie trackside posts, signals etc., pass by very quickly while distant objects, ie a hill, distant trees or churches etc, do not?? That is really weird and unusual how that appears to happen, isn't it??
Do you really want me to post up all the other CT orb videos so you can call them birds/out of focus? ... No?.. i really hope it doesn't have to come to that
 
There is something there.. I was confused at first by the word orb.. but something is there that is not going to same way as the jet and it does not look like light or reflection to me. You may have something here. I have not checked this out because I'm still out on the UFO deal. There has been a rash of sightings lately but my brother-in-law worked on 3 huge space based hologram systems in the 80's so I know they have he capability to produce holograms in the sky. This is very interesting and I'll looking for more information on it. It does spur some thought, I'll have to admit.

Merry Christmas everyone.
 
Debunk This,
you come here with obvious expectations. You expect people not to second you in your claims. At the same time, not agreeing with you makes them open to be attacked as shills etc.? What do you want to prove here? What's clear is that people here are careful not to jump conclusions based on a video. You give them one video and expect that to be enough for a complete picture.

What's wrong with the answers, or rather: the proposed answers, since most were very careful in attributing anything really? What's so bad about disagreeing with your reading of blurry reading? Does disagreement really warrant insults and abuse? You have been met with utmost civility, yet you attack them. What the heck?
 
There is something there.. I was confused at first by the word orb.. but something is there that is not going to same way as the jet and it does not look like light or reflection to me. You may have something here. I have not checked this out because I'm still out on the UFO deal. There has been a rash of sightings lately but my brother-in-law worked on 3 huge space based hologram systems in the 80's so I know they have he capability to produce holograms in the sky. This is very interesting and I'll looking for more information on it. It does spur some thought, I'll have to admit. Merry Christmas everyone.
Thank you... and Merry whatever you believe in :)
 

If this is correct: (from MikeC)

The poster says the object goes behind the contrail, but in fact in both the negative and positive views all you see is a merging of a single colour - white or dark - saying that it must be at he same altitude is a gross assumption.

Then is the the only explanation needed one for why this bird/dust/insect/ seemed to appear to go behind the trail. That being explained, then the simplest explanation is likely to be correct? Am I right?

For instance- the first video posted, and this video require no other explanation than bird/insect/Rod/optical correct?
http://youtu.be/ODcxzRI-Jfs
(there is no contrail in this video?)

If the only problem with the OP`s claim is that these unidentified flying objects pass behind or through contrails, and this is false, then a rod/insect/optical explanation is possible. So why is this discussed on a contrail forum?

 
If this is correct: (from MikeC) The poster says the object goes behind the contrail, but in fact in both the negative and positive views all you see is a merging of a single colour - white or dark - saying that it must be at he same altitude is a gross assumption. Then is the the only explanation needed one for why this bird/dust/insect/ seemed to appear to go behind the trail. That being explained, then the simplest explanation is likely to be correct? Am I right? For instance- the first video posted, and this video require no other explanation than bird/insect/Rod/optical correct? http://youtu.be/ODcxzRI-Jfs (there is no contrail in this video?) If the only problem with the OP`s claim is that these unidentified flying objects pass behind or through contrails, and this is false, then a rod/insect/optical explanation is possible. So why is this discussed on a contrail forum?
I don't understand your post? please clarify...
 
It seems that your main argument against these 'objects' being in front of the trails (closer to us) is that you assume that they pass behind the trail. Correct?

If MikeC is correct, then in fact your analysis is wrong. (in fact in both the negative and positive views all you see is a merging of a single colour - white or dark - saying that it must be at he same altitude is a gross assumption)


Once the altitude hurdle is overcome, this opens the door for a more mundane down to Earth explanation.
 
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