if go cams don't record timestamps , try showing your cellphone time in between so the guys can track the flights for you ; )
what I want to know is what evidence do you have to support that blanket statement, other than a few books with dusty old pictures that have NO context.....
I was not saying that YOU are a dusty old picture. I was saying that the "70 years of pictures" are old and dusty, and prove nothing. It is a false analogy argument. "if normal contrails have been persistent in the past then all current trails that are persistent are normal."
If you make a statement like this, then show how the goal posts have been moved by quoting people, don't just say 'logical fallacy' with no evidence.
I don't recall the thread ever saying that. maybe you can tell us where you read that.
This is the entire premise of the Contrailscience website. Their whole argument is that they have pictures of contrails acting they way people say are suspicious for over 70 years. So that means the website is saying, "since we have pictures from 70 years ago of a contrail doing this, the rapidly increasing phenomenon that you are seeing today is just that same thing, and there is no such thing as chemical trails cuz hey look, we have these old pictures."
And possibly there has been some local shifts in climate conditions, perhaps variations caused by some cycle similar to el nino.
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/de...-make-contrails-actually-they-make-more.3187/
In a rather odd reversal of known science, the latest chemtrail theory is that modern high-bypass engines do not create contrails.
This can be easily debunked simply by a review of the scientific literature. The likelyhood that a particular engine will create a contrail is governed by the "contrail factor", and this is higher for high bypass engines
well contrails do act the same as they always have. they have existed wherever cirrus clouds exist.. because they are manmade cirrus clouds and Massachusetts Definitely had cirrus clouds during your lifetime.
You wont, because they were not there, EDIT well the persistant ones werent....
http://www.neaq.org/conservation_and_research/climate_change/climate_change_in_new_england.php
How is New England being impacted by climate change?
Part of New England’s charm is the distinct four seasons—a climate that includes crisp falls, snow-filled winters and temperate springs and summers. The climate has started to change, however. Snow cover is decreasing and spring arrives earlier. And the number of extremely hot summer days has been increasing. According to a report from the Northeast Climate Impacts Assessment (NECIA) team, since 1970, the Northeast has been warming at a rate of nearly .5 degrees F per decade, with winter temperatures rising faster, at a rate of 1.3 degrees F per decade from 1970 to 2000, all changes consistent with those expected to be caused by global warming. 2010 was the warmest year on record.
So how does smaller winters and hotter summers make for more favorable conditions for a contrail to persist?
Its a false statement to say that because you have pictures from 70 years ago of a contrail persisting that all trails that persist are normal.
Please specify the years and the location where you claim there were no persistent contrails.
I grew up in No. Easton MA, so you could probably say a 10-30 mile radius from there. I can remember watching the contrails, as it was something that I really enjoyed (i dont know why), from 1989 up until now. I started seeing chemtrails around 2000
Right.
