UAP Files Orb Videos [Mostly ISS]

You're right, and this is a sticky point - if we (as investigators) think the witness is is wrong about the date being 28 May 2024, how can we accept their word with the month & year but not the day? This is a common accusation put to investigators - cherry-picking evidence to suit a pre-defined prosaic conclusion. In this case getting the day wrong is a 'small' error, not a 'gross' error like month or year. All we can do, like in science, is declare an assumption and make a tentative conclusion based on that assumption pending confirmation of the date & location from the video metadata from the witness/podcast host.
What we should actually do is to tentatively strike the date from the evidence. Now we have an undated video, and then you can say, "look, here's something similar from a similar date", and while that's not an identification, it moves the clip from "anomalous" to "explainable".
 
The "fun" these days is not just in proving things are mundane, it's the Sherlock Holmes'ing of videos and other related sources to get the details we need to work out if we can prove it is mundane, it's not pretty when the whole process is exposed because often it means making an assumption the witness is being economical with the truth or mistaken, or will not respond to requests for extra information needed to try and solve cases.

Or working backwards from what we think is most likely and trying to fill in the details from there.
 
Another orb video from @UAPF .....


Source: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAv5N4iNzj3/?igsh=and6bm52NGEyaXpr

The location date & time is given in the last few frames of the Instagram reel -
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Looks like the ISS... lets check...

Pleasant Grove, Utah, July 24 2024 at 10.49pm... yes the ISS was overhead at this time too.

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Yeah, the fact that it stays stable and shows up in front of the dark mass -- which is apparently a directional traffic sign -- and the vehicle suggests it's only a few feet away at most or a reflection of something inside or adjacent to the vehicle, like something playing on an iPad on the seat or an adjacent vehicle with animated RGB LED lights.
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and here's a stock photo of a traffic sign from Hong Kong:
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You're right, and this is a sticky point - if we (as investigators) think the witness is is wrong about the date being 28 May 2024, how can we accept their word with the month & year but not the day? This is a common accusation put to investigators - cherry-picking evidence to suit a pre-defined prosaic conclusion. In this case getting the day wrong is a 'small' error, not a 'gross' error like month or year. All we can do, like in science, is declare an assumption and make a tentative conclusion based on that assumption pending confirmation of the date & location from the video metadata from the witness/podcast host.

These people often present their 'UFO' videos whilst leaving out or getting wrong the most important information such as location, date, time, direction being faced, weather conditions, make and model of any camera being used, and so on. The reality is that 99% of them are utterly ignorant of even basic astronomy, satellite recognition, aircraft recognition, etc....and that is precisely why to them half the objects in the sky are 'UFOs'.

But try telling them that and you're a CIA 'shill' and secretly work for the Men In Black.
 
It's clear whoever labeled this video with the date May 28th, 2024 didn't make an innocent mistake. This is clear evidence of deliberate deception.

But I don't think it was May 19th either, because the percentage of the Moon that is illuminated in the video doesn't match what the Moon of May 19th would look like.

On the other hand....May 28th 2023 fits quite nicely.
 
People sometimes submit their clips after some time, and forget exactly which day they took the video. This is not necessarily obfuscation, just carelessness.

Mars and Jupiter are particularly strong candidates for misidentification; I once had someone ring me up in the middle of the night to identify a 'hovering UFO' which turned out to be Jupiter and Mars. Luckily, I could go outside and see them in real time. Unlike conjunctions between Venus and Jupiter, which can be spectacular, Mars and Jupiter can appear together late at night in the darkest part of the sky, so may look more impressive.
 
However, the North Pole of the moon always points towards the North star,
For my own interest, I thought I'd check this. The pole star of the Moon is slightly different to that of the Earth; it seems to be 37 Draconis, near enough, which is about 21 degrees away from Polaris. So there is a bit of a wobble, which astronomers call libration. But this is a fairly minor effect.
 
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For my own interest, I thought I'd check this. The pole star of the Moon is slightly different to that of the Earth; it seems to be 37 Draconis, near enough, which is about 21 degrees away from Polaris. So there is a bit of a wobble, which astronomers call libration. But this is a fairly minor effect.
Certainly close enough to distinguish up from down.
 
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